The article author is obviously pro-MS
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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RE: The article author is obviously pro-MS
richdave | 03/06/06
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He's joking
george_ou | 03/06/06
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Since ZDNet editors have both Mac and PC - ...
Vily Clay | 03/06/06
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Suggestions: ...
Vily Clay | 03/06/06
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suse 10?
Scott W | 03/06/06
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Because real life competition will drive progress and SuSe too. (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/07/06
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i dont have trouble
linuxoverwindows | 03/08/06
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Repot this George
Fred Fredrickson | 03/07/06
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I disagree with the facts reported
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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RE: I disagree with the facts reported
richdave | 03/06/06
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Funny how ZDNet left that out
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Not so huge a distinction
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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Can't take it as seriously
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Tic, you could have said it shorter ? Mac is better because YOU want to...
Vily Clay | 03/06/06
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Vily, that is so freaking funny
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Didn't you, Tic, take lessions from Stalin?
Vily Clay | 03/06/06
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Put a Win2kSP4 server on the Internet...
The King's Servant | 03/06/06
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Oh Vily
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Tic, if you?d have half a brain ? you?d check it. Note ? I checked it (NT)
Vily Clay | 03/06/06
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RE: Funny how ZDNet left that out
richdave | 03/06/06
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Sort of
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Remotely exploiting Macs is easier
joopbraak | 03/12/06
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This just in, Windows XP hacked in 20 seconds,,,
jinko | 03/06/06
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You've been drinking the zealot kool aid again.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/06/06
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It's true though
voska | 03/06/06
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Yup, yet the FUD keeps on rollin'
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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How old?
ianbetteridge | 03/07/06
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Does it matter?
rapson | 03/06/06
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Yes! No local user logging required
The King's Servant | 03/06/06
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That's not the point
rapson | 03/07/06
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Ya. Sure, Go back to bed.
Cayble | 03/06/06
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count
Network Support | 03/06/06
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And Apple is
Mectron | 03/06/06
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heh..
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 03/06/06
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Mac vs Windows
amaref | 03/06/06
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Does it change anything for Joe Average?
dddd_z | 03/06/06
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It shows that Joe Average...
doctormoriarty | 03/07/06
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It's a bird! It's a plane!
handydan918 | 03/07/06
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Never mind, It's just
handydan918 | 03/07/06
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Does anything ever change
suirauqa | 03/08/06
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This is a story?
wearthefoxhat | 03/06/06
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RE: This is a story?
richdave | 03/06/06
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A Mac fan here w/ sense
GSavage777 | 03/06/06
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RE: A Mac fan here w/ sense
richdave | 03/06/06
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Well isn't this true of ANY OS even BSD?
Laff | 03/06/06
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How do you know OS X is more secure than XP?
Anton Philidor | 03/06/06
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Thought this was an interesting piece
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Because George Ou says it is!
thelemite | 03/07/06
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I haven't seen it.
nomorems | 03/06/06
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Nice
GaryN | 03/07/06
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Gee, that's wird................
wearthefoxhat | 03/06/06
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RE: Gee, that's wird................
richdave | 03/06/06
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The fact that you clicks the link to read the new says it all.
KOR_Hian_Loon@... | 03/07/06
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This is a pathetically bad joke
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Interesting..
Patrick Jones | 03/06/06
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They gave the hacker an account???
jinko | 03/06/06
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And you are making a pathetically bad excuse
toadlife | 03/06/06
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Read for a change
BitTwiddler | 03/06/06
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take off the Apple tinted goggles
toadlife | 03/06/06
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Understand what this means
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Welcome to the Internet, Tic.
JetJaguar | 03/06/06
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Go back to what I said
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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No, I'm not
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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I agree
toadlife | 03/06/06
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He's not arguing that fact.
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 03/06/06
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A very good point..
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/06/06
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Yes - imagine a publishing house who
Hugh Jass | 03/06/06
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Whoa... noone mentioned that...
el1jones | 03/06/06
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Like I wrote earlier...
nomorems | 03/06/06
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Microsoft?
Dragonn | 03/10/06
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Tic, I found this challenge interesting for another reason
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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I think it proves he's an idiot
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Question..
cashaww | 03/07/06
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I think it proves he is a liar
nomorems | 03/06/06
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Where did you obtain this information?
ye | 03/06/06
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Try here
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Who is Dave Schroeder?
ye | 03/06/06
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Find out for yourself
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Thanks...
ye | 03/06/06
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OK...Dave responded to my e-mail and...
ye | 03/06/06
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More details here
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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I see no facts to support that success was the...
ye | 03/06/06
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Well...
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Also note
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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How do we know it's the same challenge?
ye | 03/06/06
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I guess it doesn't matter
tic swayback | 03/07/06
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It does matter if you're going to...
ye | 03/07/06
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True, but...
tic swayback | 03/07/06
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Given the limited amount of information...
ye | 03/07/06
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Unfounded conclusions and worst case scenarios
tic swayback | 03/07/06
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Here's my own for Windows: 71.56.240.67
ye | 03/07/06
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Double standard...
ye | 03/07/06
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I said it was an unfounded conclusion
tic swayback | 03/08/06
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Yes you did...thus my "Double Standard"...
ye | 03/08/06
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My comments were addressed...
tic swayback | 03/08/06
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Then you have my apologies.
ye | 03/08/06
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What this does prove is...
3D0G | 03/06/06
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Which 5 to 10 machines do you refer to?
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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what it proves..
Network Support | 03/06/06
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Here's a real challenge
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Sounds like a plan
nucrash | 03/06/06
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the test closes tonight... lol
linuxoverwindows | 03/07/06
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Mac OS X hacked in under 30 minutes
Loverock Davidson | 03/06/06
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Not quite
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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I know
Loverock Davidson | 03/06/06
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1 out of 10
Expatriate US Geek | 03/06/06
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Take that George Ou
nucrash | 03/06/06
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Hehe!
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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The article was the pro-MS spin...
nomorems | 03/06/06
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a lil too much MS paranoia, calm down
Dragonn | 03/10/06
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He-he
george_ou | 03/06/06
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Hope you'll find out what really happened here
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Should we compare this to Windows?
nucrash | 03/06/06
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What would the purpose be?
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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You're right...
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Oh I HATE those Linux dudes!!
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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You're kidding, NonZealot!! Who'd a thunk?
Hugh Jass | 03/06/06
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Shiver me timbers!
nomorems | 03/06/06
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Re: Shiver me timbers!
joopbraak | 03/12/06
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We,,
cashaww | 03/06/06
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Hac Mac
bernoulli | 03/06/06
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Wise in not commenting
Richard Flude | 03/06/06
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Such good reporting they dropped it off the front page of ZDNet
Anon_ymous | 03/06/06
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exploit unknown
mrlinux | 03/06/06
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Secure BSD
baggins_z | 03/07/06
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The hacker cheated
NonZealot | 03/06/06
|

I think we just need to crack down..
nucrash | 03/06/06
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"To just hack is OK?"
3D0G | 03/06/06
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theres a difference...
linuxoverwindows | 03/07/06
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NZ, stop gloating
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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I'm not gloating
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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Don't put words in my mouth
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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I'm not
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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Thanks for your input
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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How dare he use the Apache analogy!
thelemite | 03/07/06
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Yeah, real hackers would never do that..
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/06/06
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Strawman
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Hmm, at least one user thought OSX was 100% safe
NonZealot | 03/06/06
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Still a made-up argument
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
  
this is a poor argument to justify your behaviour
stevey_d | 03/06/06
|

Anyone notice a pattern?
nomorems | 03/06/06
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not fair?
doctormoriarty | 03/07/06
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That's still twice as long as XP
Chad_z | 03/06/06
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Get a clue
toadlife | 03/06/06
|
 
To be fair
tic swayback | 03/06/06
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Good question
toadlife | 03/06/06
|
   
Question
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
    
Google them
voska | 03/06/06
|
     
Office?
ianbetteridge | 03/07/06
|
    
I think you already gave us one
NonZealot | 03/06/06
|
     
Shatter Attacks are easy to prevent
toadlife | 03/06/06
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I don't know
toadlife | 03/06/06
|
     
Leave it alone
Richard Flude | 03/06/06
|
     
Thanks Mr. Rude.
toadlife | 03/06/06
|
     
Clarification
Richard Flude | 03/06/06
|
     
Not blaming UNIX
toadlife | 03/06/06
|
    
Non-shatter attacks
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
     
Google privilege escalation windows
Richard Flude | 03/06/06
|
     
Playing the Google game
toadlife | 03/06/06
|
    
Line wrap issues on links
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
     
Tic
toadlife | 03/06/06
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Thanks
tic swayback | 03/07/06
|
Smokers of the Mac-pipe, time for your intervention!
Mr. Roboto | 03/06/06
|

Pack another bowl
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
 
Hey don't hog that pipe!
Len Rooney | 03/06/06
|
  
Pass it over here...
Hugh Jass | 03/06/06
|
   
puff puff give
linuxoverwindows | 03/07/06
|

You are correct of course......
Laff | 03/06/06
|
 
oh, i thought for a second...
linuxoverwindows | 03/07/06
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Who cares?
nomorems | 03/06/06
|

Thank GAWD
No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/06/06
|
 
Sorry, but no.
nomorems | 03/06/06
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Good, cause you're
Real World | 03/07/06
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This article is a lie zdnet, you should edit it[you are doing in microsoft]
stevey_d | 03/06/06
|

You need a life.
Narg | 03/06/06
|
 
i have a life
stevey_d | 03/06/06
|

Grown up, M$muchomoney, grown up? You must love kidding yourself
sergiovf@... | 03/06/06
|
Funny
Narg | 03/06/06
|

Whats funny
nomorems | 03/06/06
|
 
why is it
Shelendrea | 03/06/06
|
  
Double secret reverse psychology
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
  
I think it's the tirade of articles about Mac OSX security
stevey_d | 03/06/06
|
  
It's within the realm of possiblity
Len Rooney | 03/06/06
|
   
realm of possibility or not
Shelendrea | 03/07/06
|
    
Sorry,
nomorems | 03/07/06
|
    
Who's blaming?
Len Rooney | 03/07/06
|
     
Not just MS
tic swayback | 03/07/06
|
    
like MS had nothing to do with the SCO IBM court case
stevey_d | 03/07/06
|
Less than 30 minutes, huh?
Anthony Volpe | 03/06/06
|
ZDNet MS bias, as usual
boobasaurus | 03/06/06
|

not only misleading, but articles like this sadly prove
BillyB40 | 03/06/06
|

SSH Doesn't Get Used In The Real World?
nikoli | 03/06/06
|
 
Glad you're not running my web servers
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
  
You Can't See A Real World Scenario
nikoli | 03/07/06
|
   
And you know this is what happened?
tic swayback | 03/07/06
|
 
the diff here
linuxoverwindows | 03/07/06
|
Windows OS Compromised In Less Than 30 Seconds
itanalyst | 03/06/06
|

Amazing
ianbetteridge | 03/07/06
|
 
30 seconds for XP
Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 03/07/06
|
  
I can do it in 3 seconds
xuniL_z | 03/07/06
|
   
i like the tongue face better
linuxoverwindows | 03/07/06
|
 
He speaks the truth
zmud | 03/07/06
|
When will you tell that he had local access priveleges?
Dan Brantley | 03/06/06
|

Really
nikoli | 03/06/06
|
 
Really?
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
  
How Did I Know Tic Would Be The First To Reply?
nikoli | 03/06/06
|
   
Whippy skippy
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
    
Of Course It's All About You And You Only Tic
nikoli | 03/06/06
|
     
Sure anything. If I get my admin password to you for instance,
Laff | 03/06/06
|
     
nikoli
Network Support | 03/06/06
|
     
Yes, the world does revolve around me
tic swayback | 03/07/06
|
     
give out the admin password?
linuxoverwindows | 03/07/06
|
   
You have a crystal ball? What's the other one made of?
Laff | 03/06/06
|
    
what if they
linuxoverwindows | 03/07/06
|
  
Much worst than that
Richard Flude | 03/06/06
|
   
You mean George lied?
Fred Fredrickson | 03/07/06
|
   
Why Is This About XP Now???
nikoli | 03/07/06
|
    
Silly boy....
thelemite | 03/07/06
|
     
Laugh All You Want, You Completely Missed The Point
nikoli | 03/07/06
|
     
You mean like the same attention Apache gets compared to IIs?
thelemite | 03/07/06
|
     
Typical OS X users are usually administrators?
nikoli | 03/07/06
|
     
Typical OSX users grant the public local access?
thelemite | 03/07/06
|
Local Accounts
ITTech001 | 03/06/06
|
Gwerdna = Andrew G.
Geotopia | 03/06/06
|
I've Read The Article And The Respones And I've Concluded...
nikoli | 03/06/06
|

30 seconds for XP
Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 03/07/06
|
 
This is desperation at it's worst...
xuniL_z | 03/07/06
|
  
Very Desperate
nikoli | 03/07/06
|
mac owners need windows for their own securty
glocks out | 03/06/06
|
Please tell the whole story
adamsp | 03/06/06
|
It's not about Microsoft, it's about Apple
Toiyabe | 03/06/06
|

It's not about Microsoft or Apple, it's about ZDNet
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
 
The Point Has Been Made Whether You Like It Or Not
nikoli | 03/06/06
|
  
Duh
tic swayback | 03/06/06
|
   
You Are Hopeless!!!
nikoli | 03/07/06
|
    
Guess that answers my question
tic swayback | 03/07/06
|
 
Let's talk about FUD
Qbt | 03/06/06
|
  
Interesting given the correction now posted
Richard Flude | 03/06/06
|
  
Pure Windows Idealist
keydesignz | 04/08/06
|

Apple's "sloppy coding" ???
sergiovf@... | 03/06/06
|
 
Finally
keydesignz | 04/08/06
|
Sounds like FUD to me!
MacGeek2121 | 03/06/06
|
So much hype, so little substance
cr33 | 03/06/06
|
New challenge has been arranged
berck | 03/06/06
|

Still up and running...
TheCrow_z | 03/06/06
|
wasn't a fair test
2max67 | 03/06/06
|
Ok then...
zkiwi | 03/06/06
|
Hacked Interest?
Aylwin | 03/06/06
|
The only 100% secure computer now is the one that is off.
DanielBlessing | 03/06/06
|
Flawed story
jefmud | 03/06/06
|
Oh, just face it...
Qbt | 03/06/06
|
Stating the obvious.
johnsmith222 | 03/06/06
|
Hacking
WEBKILLER | 03/07/06
|
Run OS-uX as a VM on top of Windows
jpr75_z | 03/07/06
|
Wow, I never thought I'd lose this much respect for ZDNet
merlin747 | 03/07/06
|

Yeah, kind of lowers ZDnet to giant blog...
el1jones | 03/07/06
|
So who is "Andrew G.?" (gwerdna)
bwebster | 03/07/06
|
XP
Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 03/07/06
|
Complete rubbish, the real test is here
Fred Fredrickson | 03/07/06
|
Care To Take Back That Last Comment Ian?
itanalyst | 03/07/06
|
The Wisconsin site is still
Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 03/07/06
|

Conclusion is useless without more info
NonZealot | 03/07/06
|
 
Well hopefully
Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 03/07/06
|
 
And here is the answer...
Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 03/07/06
|
How long ago was it...
doctormoriarty | 03/07/06
|

Firewalls
tic swayback | 03/07/06
|
 
History repeating itself
doctormoriarty | 03/07/06
|
  
Not the same
NonZealot | 03/07/06
|
   
Overconfidence can be an exploitable weakness
doctormoriarty | 03/07/06
|
  
What's to prevent?
tic swayback | 03/07/06
|
   
Doesn't exist?
doctormoriarty | 03/07/06
|
    
2 viruses?
tic swayback | 03/07/06
|
Publish the method
mergatroid | 03/07/06
|
What's next...
yyuko@... | 03/07/06
|
What you ALL are MISSING...
ziembd@... | 03/07/06
|

I agrue none of it...
nomorems | 03/07/06
|
Not a serious contest!
An_Axe_to_Grind | 03/07/06
|
So what you are saying is another Real contest should be done
Boot_Agnostic | 03/07/06
|

Contests are not terribly useful
tic swayback | 03/07/06
|
 
But they are attention getters
Boot_Agnostic | 03/07/06
|
Compare numbers
DeadFred | 03/07/06
|
coverage was so journalistically poor
wh0arey0u | 03/07/06
|
Dear ZD net
s_gamgee | 03/07/06
|

Who do you trust? [nt]
BlazeEagle | 03/07/06
|
Leave ZDNet alone[more inside]
BlazeEagle | 03/07/06
|
Why is it that
RhinoRover | 03/08/06
|
I dislike Mac
Heretic_Seraphim | 04/07/06
|

You have never even used it
keydesignz | 04/08/06
|