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By Joris Evers
Posted on ZDNet News: Mar 13, 2007 8:57:00 PM

As Microsoft is out touting the "wow" of Windows Vista, two federal agencies are among those saying "whoa."

The Department of Transportation (DOT) and the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) cite fear of compatibility problems as one of the reasons not to allow their tens of thousands of employees to upgrade to Microsoft's latest operating system.

"We are temporarily not permitting computers with the Vista operating system to be connected to our networks," Michael Baum, a NIST spokesman, said Tuesday. The organization's technology staff is testing NIST applications and evaluating the security in Windows Vista. The same holds true for Internet Explorer 7 and Office 2007, he said.

It is not unusual that agencies aren't rushing to install major software updates. Large organizations in particular tend to do a lot of testing before upgrading. The same happened when Microsoft released Service Pack 2 for Windows XP. The actions by DOT, which employs about 54,000 people, and NIST, with 2,900 employees, were first reported by Information Week.

The DOT also bans Vista, Office 2007 and IE 7. In addition to compatibility concerns, the department lists cost, available funding and a pending headquarters move as reasons not to upgrade, according to a DOT memo dated January 19 (click for PDF of the memo). The memo is still current, a DOT representative said Tuesday.

"There appears to be no compelling technical or business case for upgrading to these new Microsoft software products," according to the memo. The department plans to issue an update next month to clarify its strategy for 2008 and beyond, the representative said.

In a statement, Microsoft said it is working with many government agencies to help them adopt its latest products. "We respect the customer's decision," the company said.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the largest organization under the DOT, is taking the opportunity to consider alternatives to Microsoft's operating system and productivity software, said Tammy Jones, an FAA spokeswoman. This includes including running Linux on desktops and using Google's online applications, she said.

"We're trying to see what the cost impact would be to the FAA to convert to the new Microsoft products," Jones said. "We want to explore what some of the alternatives are. Google is one that we're looking at, so is Linux." The FAA has about 45,000 employees.

Vista has been available to businesses since late November and was released to the general public at the end of January. About 90 million copies of the operating system will be installed this year, predicts IDC. The analyst firm also foresees that consumers will be first to adopt the system. Businesses should be cautious, IDC advises.

"Business customers should take a cautious approach to adopting new Windows technologies and need to go through a normal evaluation cycle," IDC analyst Al Gillen wrote in a recent report. "Most organizations should incorporate a move to Windows Vista in their longer-term road map--unless they are planning to move toward competitive solutions."

Many organizations will need up to 18 months after the Vista ship date to verify their applications, get other software makers to support the operating system and run tests, analyst firm Gartner said in a December report. "Sooner or later, most organizations will deploy Windows Vista," Gartner's analysts said.

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Please let them announce a switch to Open Source & Linux  whisperycat | 03/13/07
You got that right.  xuniL_z | 03/13/07
And for good reason  IT_User | 03/13/07
Of course there is.....  xuniL_z | 03/13/07
You said downgrade  IT_User | 03/13/07
x486 w/ RedHat 2.0? [NT]  swoopee | 03/13/07
ok, maybe it's the wrong term  xuniL_z | 03/13/07
No get back into your wayback machine  voska | 03/14/07
I could do that.  xuniL_z | 03/14/07
re: You said downgrade  wally247 | 03/14/07
Are you kidding?  MageOfChaos | 03/14/07
Ok, here is the deal.  xuniL_z | 03/15/07
Now a word from Linus on DRM  xuniL_z | 03/13/07
LOL!  Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
Thanks for sharing  ikeeickholdt | 03/14/07
God yes!  guiri | 03/14/07
No truer words spoken  DarthRidiculous | 03/13/07
Sure hasn't stopped you from  xuniL_z | 03/13/07
95% holding off on Linux?  jasonp@... | 03/14/07
well, it seems to me the article  xuniL_z | 03/14/07
update to Vista  janesman2007 | 03/14/07
Ok, heres the thing.  xuniL_z | 03/15/07
Why upgrade  boomchuck1 | 03/15/07
Killer Ap Required  wjkahlssmd@... | 04/05/07
Portland project 1.0 is already there.  miyojim | 03/15/07
sounds like somebody  xuniL_z | 03/16/07
re: well, it seems to me the article  rchasse2002 | 03/20/07
Uh.... It just came out!  Leria | 03/14/07
Yep, it just came out  guiri | 03/14/07
The Troll is right (somewhat)  Byte_Lurker | 03/15/07
Yes, laugh on, - scriller and shriller  pkrdk | 03/20/07
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Actually xunil pulls those numbers out of it's rectum .  Non_Zealot | 01/05/08
Not YET!  Leria | 03/14/07
True but...  ikeeickholdt | 03/14/07
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Bad analogy  mswift@... | 01/03/08
here's some interesting words  Zanzibar5 | 03/14/07
If you cite compatibility concerns as keeping you from moving to Vista,  PB_z | 03/13/07
Hmmm...  Cardinal_Bill | 03/13/07
Well, another "enlightened one"  GuidingLight | 03/13/07
A little late to worry about your tax dollars  Ole Man | 04/05/07
Not to worry though mister shill  Non_Zealot | 01/05/08
Are you suggesting  xuniL_z | 03/13/07
Criminals?  voska | 03/14/07
No, the opposite.  xuniL_z | 03/14/07
You are correct  mames1701 | 03/14/07
On comparable systems?  fencer | 01/03/08
For a home user maybe  voska | 03/14/07
Laws?  guiri | 03/14/07
Actually, no, the opposite...  JohnBoyTheGreat | 03/14/07
RE: No, the opposite.  rchasse2002 | 03/20/07
Uh huh , you are preaching to the choir ,,,  Non_Zealot | 01/05/08
And what about when MSFT does it?  mejohnsn | 01/14/08
Forget FUD.  MageOfChaos | 03/14/07
Don't be silly!  Ole Man | 04/05/07
Just one piece of the costing pie...  ikeeickholdt | 03/14/07
This is reality speaking:  MageOfChaos | 03/14/07
Distribution of Linux - good to know  ikeeickholdt | 03/15/07
I did a fair amount of research.  MageOfChaos | 03/15/07
don't forget Xandros  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/14/07
Don't forget  Boot_Agnostic | 03/15/07
Yeah, or just keep paying Microsoft thru the nose  Ole Man | 04/05/07
That's the best time to switch  voska | 03/14/07
Re-writing apps  ikeeickholdt | 03/14/07
You will find  Ole Man | 04/05/07
re-write vs modify  mswift@... | 01/03/08
It Sounded OK to Me  hforman@... | 03/14/07
Compatibility vs. cost  DNSB | 03/15/07
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Well at least that much is true  IT_User | 03/13/07
You did read the original posts?  xuniL_z | 03/13/07
Behind?  Sabz5150 | 03/14/07
You demonstrate the.....  xuniL_z | 03/14/07
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Another demonstration  xuniL_z | 03/14/07
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But I like feeding the troll.  Sabz5150 | 03/15/07
hrothgar  xuniL_z | 03/15/07
Sapz5150  xuniL_z | 03/15/07
It's B not P!!!!!!!!!!!  Sabz5150 | 03/15/07
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You're one of the biggest hypocrites around .  Non_Zealot | 01/05/08
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ENd of the software upgrade cycle  jsjag1 | 03/14/07
There is something you need to learn  xuniL_z | 03/15/07
Well stated  ikeeickholdt | 03/14/07
"I don't have anything against the Linux operating system"?  Ole Man | 04/05/07
Not to mention he and Ye  Non_Zealot | 01/05/08
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Good  Alexisbarrister@... | 03/13/07
words  dhays | 03/14/07
Federal agencies ban Windows Vista  Loverock Davidson | 03/13/07
Ya right!  bchesmer | 03/14/07
ROFLMAO!  QueenMama | 03/14/07
Ease of ......not really  LStewart | 03/14/07
Normal Enterprise Caution  Patanjali | 03/13/07
Not normal caution....  techboy_z | 03/14/07
Enterprise is slooooooooooooow  Patanjali | 03/20/07
"BAN?"  bob in FL | 03/13/07
It's government  voska | 03/14/07
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Misleading headline!  tubiak@... | 03/14/07
BAN is indeed far from the truth  Marty R. Milette | 03/14/07
I've seen governments do this  voska | 03/14/07
"the Linux fanboys"? Probably!  Ole Man | 04/05/07
censored ?  mjvtz@... | 03/15/07
error on my part !  mjvtz@... | 03/15/07
Welcome to the world of ZDNET !!!  Non_Zealot | 01/05/08
Upgrade?  fde101 | 03/14/07
News flash, new systems don't get immediate green lights  Boot_Agnostic | 03/14/07
And beside that  Ole Man | 04/05/07
Great Customer Service - Wow  mlindl | 03/14/07
Uhh, if you work with the feds this shouldn't be a surprise  tbarr@... | 03/14/07
If the feds run 2 years behind everyone else...  jasonp@... | 03/14/07
No Vista?  dingers412@... | 03/14/07
No real surpise  SmartCookie | 03/14/07
Just do your homework  ikeeickholdt | 03/14/07
Logic?  pkrdk | 03/27/07
Vista Certification  ceh4702 | 03/14/07
OPERATION HAPPY PLANET  BALTHOR | 03/14/07
HAPPY PLANET ..  ZoltanZ | 03/14/07
Don't Worry!  Ole Man | 03/14/07
You have conspicuously  xuniL_z | 03/15/07
Thanks for the input  Ole Man | 04/05/07
My ulcer thanks you.  MageOfChaos | 03/14/07
hydrogen=electric  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/15/07
Yes, and no.  MageOfChaos | 03/15/07
No 'lectricity?  NickV5 | 03/14/07
Vista...making the world aware: there are other options.  fredmcgee | 03/14/07
propaganda and ethics in journalism  corticus | 03/14/07
Ever heard of "due diligence"?  -Kestrel- | 03/14/07
Deployed?  pmshah@... | 03/14/07
Windows-Related Deaths!!!  timgesner | 03/14/07
propaganda and ethics in journalism  tkriel@... | 03/15/07
Not uncommon  Apache19 | 03/14/07
Not Suprising; Probably because of IPv6  ghalverson_z | 03/14/07
Another non story  scottie_clark@... | 03/14/07
I JUST DUMPED VISTA AND OFFICE 2007!  primusic | 03/14/07
I JUST DUMPED VISTA AND OFFICE 2007!  a.benny@... | 03/14/07
ARE YOU HERE TO TRY AND TELL US  xuniL_z | 03/14/07
Reply to xunil  Non_Zealot | 01/05/08
You are a troll, not an expert.  mrmckeb@... | 03/14/07
Vista runs slow on 512MB RAM  tracy anne | 03/15/07
Great Shill!  Ole Man | 04/05/07
Message has been deleted.  ZoltanZ | 03/14/07
Talk about FUD  wizardb@... | 03/14/07
Are you saying Al Gore  guiri | 03/14/07
Another solution to global warming?  MageOfChaos | 03/14/07
Pee on a tree!  wjgrimm | 03/14/07
Global warming  DNSB | 03/15/07
Don't blame Vista, blame bad programmers  mames1701 | 03/14/07
No one else to blame but the programmers  User-01 | 03/14/07
How are you sure that Vista is not to blame?  miyojim | 03/15/07
I think I'll wait for you guys to offer a new OS  intrepi@... | 03/17/07
Why do you think they produced something so incompatable?  Ole Man | 04/05/07
This was old news LAST week...  -Kestrel- | 03/14/07
Better yet  Ole Man | 04/05/07
Federal Agencies ban Windows Vista  a.benny@... | 03/14/07
Ban? ...What???!!  mustang_z | 03/14/07
What's the Big Deal?  TechinMN | 03/14/07
Windows - the virus of all viruses  schlandower | 03/14/07
Linux just plain works better in today's world.  joe.smetona@... | 03/14/07
Crazy man. alert  xuniL_z | 03/16/07
No comparison with security issues.  joe.smetona@... | 03/19/07
"facts"?  Ole Man | 04/05/07
Windows is the hackers preffered platform  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/15/07
It's a good thing you  xuniL_z | 03/16/07
Didn't you mean Secunia? (Secunia.com)  joe.smetona@... | 03/19/07
uncommon good sense from the Feds  draciron@... | 03/14/07
MS & DOD operating system partnership?  avallee@... | 03/14/07
Way behind times and waaaay overboard  Ole Man | 04/05/07
At Least the US Gov Shows Some Common Sense  jimc52@... | 03/14/07
I see more M$ supporter FUD here  Old Timer 8080 | 03/14/07
I agree with most of what you said...  MageOfChaos | 03/14/07
So.....  kodakmak | 03/14/07
Some Feds Ban Vista  jasprey | 03/14/07
Thanks Jasprey happy  jimc52@... | 03/16/07
What's your point??  jasprey | 03/14/07
To those who fight tooth and nail for windows  guiri | 03/14/07
Federal Government Offices had dumped MS Office before  Lurabyss | 03/14/07
When  kodakmak | 03/18/07
Oh it's not that long ago  pkrdk | 03/27/07
The Man behind the curtain  jasprey | 03/14/07
I don't see any reason to not allow them....  jgmsys@... | 03/14/07
I hate the key when on this forum.  jgmsys@... | 03/14/07
NIST? Ironic imho  mikez@... | 03/14/07
Arizona...  MageOfChaos | 03/14/07
Not Really  gurg13 | 03/15/07
Even so, that's done more sanely than Indiana.  MageOfChaos | 03/15/07
What are you doing running 98?  jimc52@... | 03/21/07
In agreement  afoder@... | 03/14/07
Business as usual  pkrdk | 03/27/07
Yellow Journalism  benmoto | 03/14/07
Vista users: Enemy Combatants  corticus | 03/15/07
Old news is EXCITING!  User-01 | 03/14/07
Did they immediately greenlight  Boot_Agnostic | 03/14/07
lol  masterxtds | 03/14/07
Feds Ban Vista  Jaytmoon | 03/14/07
misleading headline  mjvtz@... | 03/14/07
Boo hoo hoo!  Ole Man | 04/05/07
update to Vista?  janesman2007 | 03/14/07
All for the people!  Vivek Nair | 03/14/07
I can read, why can't the author quit making stuff up?  Jazhawk | 03/14/07
To ban, or not to ban?  Ole Man | 04/05/07
I'm sticking with XP  bonespiel@... | 03/14/07
XP - Vista ? Neither  ptmaadi@... | 03/15/07
Here Here!  jimc52@... | 03/21/07
Vista is better than XP  kghdu | 03/15/07
Remedial reading?  DNSB | 03/15/07
Cludge!  jimc52@... | 03/21/07
still a misleading headline  mjvtz@... | 03/15/07
So how many times will you complain?  Ole Man | 04/05/07
This ban isn't likely to go away soon either!  afhavemann@... | 03/15/07
Very well put.  Byte_Lurker | 03/15/07
Well put and dead on...  jacarter3 | 03/15/07
Porting applications, a profession.  miyojim | 03/15/07
Did you include in your review...  xuniL_z | 03/16/07
Old news  pkrdk | 03/27/07
Taken into account - yes BUT!  afhavemann@... | 04/06/07
Preinstall of Linux by OEMs  miyojim | 03/15/07
I really believe you're right  intrepi@... | 03/17/07
Correct and on-track.  joe.smetona@... | 03/19/07
Major VS Minor Upgrades...  theuns@... | 03/16/07
Shows how much users REALLY want it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/16/07
well duh!  guyvii_z | 03/16/07
Strange strategy  pkrdk | 03/27/07
Darn, some many ABMer posts on this  Boot_Agnostic | 03/18/07
Vista will dominate the desktop....  startx.jeff | 03/19/07
Unless they deem something else is better  Boot_Agnostic | 03/21/07
SIte error  pkrdk | 03/27/07
If you reply to the story  Ole Man | 04/05/07
Vista Machine won't run  rcpray | 04/05/07
Really?  dave01010101 | 12/27/07
Vista means: end of story  johan.kloosterman@... | 04/06/07
Wise decision, brother.  miyojim | 04/09/07

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