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Reuters Logo Microsoft is working to hamstring software companies trying to overcome "inherent weaknesses" in Windows security, rival McAfee charged in a full-page ad in Monday's Financial Times.

McAfee, Symantec and other security software companies argue that Microsoft's new Vista operating system will make it more difficult to protect customers because for the first time, they have been denied access to the core of the operating system.

Neither company has filed a formal complaint, and so far, the European Commission has taken no formal action on the matter.

"We have an ongoing dialogue with Microsoft. It's not up to us to give them a green light. It's up to them to assure full compliance" with the law, a European Commission representative said.

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The Commission says it gained authority over Microsoft's new offering as part of a landmark 2004 case, which found that the company abused its dominant position in the Windows operating system to damage rivals.

Microsoft says it may withhold shipping Vista to European Union states when it distributes the operating system next month to computer makers and companies, out of concern about enforcement action. But no decision has been made.

"Our goal is to deliver a fully innovative, secure version of Windows Vista that is compliant with EU law. We have an ongoing and constructive dialogue with the Commission on these issues," a Microsoft representative said.

McAfee's ad echoes comments by Symantec representatives that Microsoft has withdrawn cooperation as it moves to substitute their security software with its own, giving its own product a leg-up in Windows.

They say they are denied access to the heart of the operating system through built-in software locks, which makes it much harder to protect.

"Microsoft is being completely unrealistic if, by locking security companies out of the kernel (core), it thinks hackers won't crack Vista's kernel. In fact, they already have," the advert in the Financial Times read.

Microsoft disagrees.

"Partners are at the core of Microsoft's business model. We have worked closely with our security partners throughout the development of Windows Vista, and continue to do so," it said.

Echoed complaints
The informal complaints of security companies echo those of other companies over the years, which charged that Microsoft illegally cut them out of their core markets.

The companies sued or were at the centre of enforcement actions in the United States, European Union and South Korea. Regulators tried to get Microsoft to get changes its business practices, but none has succeeded.

Microsoft defends its practices as proper, legal and a boon to consumers and innovation. It says that it should be able to improve Windows without harassment by governments and has made a court challenge to the Commission's 2004 decision.

Companies have lost their dominant positions to Microsoft, then either exited the market, ceased competing or settled their lawsuits against the software giant for sums reaching hundreds of millions of dollars.

These companies include the browser maker Netscape, the server maker Novell and the streaming media player RealNetworks.

Once Microsoft conquers a market, its innovation generally slows as it turns to focus on new, unconquered markets.

McAfee argues that Microsoft "seems to envision a world in which one giant company not only controls the systems that drive most computers around the world, but also the security that protects those computers from viruses and other online threats.

"Only one approach protecting us all: When it fails, it fails for 97 percent of the world's desktops," McAfee said in the ad.

"Computer users around the globe recognize that the most serious threats to security exist because of inherent weaknesses in the Microsoft operating system," it said.

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On one hand, most people will agree that previous versions of Windows aren't secure. So Microsoft takes the initiative to button things up in Vista so Windows... (Read the rest)
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That undeniable scent of a lawsuit is unfurling here .  Intellihence | 10/02/06
hehe  galileon | 10/02/06
Why?  John Zern | 10/02/06
Did they come out ahead in  Jack-Booted EULA | 10/02/06
If its not NO AX ZERN ! - NT  raycote | 10/02/06
Why? Microsoft is right and  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
And in other news  zkiwi | 10/02/06
As if the EU mattered.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
MicroSoft_Ax_to_Grind & Grind & Grind & Grind...NT  raycote | 10/02/06
Another useless insight from Bitty.  thelemite | 10/03/06
Well, we can wait and see yes.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
Microsoft can't win...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/04/06
Hmm  rapson | 10/02/06
Hmm Indeed  Badgered | 10/02/06
inherent weakness  FADS_z | 10/02/06
And wouldn't they...  A.Sinic | 10/02/06
re: and wouldn't they  Badgered | 10/03/06
re: inherent weakness  Badgered | 10/03/06
Exactlly! (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Well...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Security thru obscurity is not....  thelemite | 10/03/06
It appears that crack us is still high in Redmond.  Suicida| | 10/02/06
Convenient Truth; Another Vista delay?  mighetto | 10/02/06
I suspect there's a lot more to this story....  rock06r | 10/02/06
You're missing it...  techboy_z | 10/02/06
They should make it work  voska | 10/02/06
Y'know . . .  jlhenry62 | 10/03/06
You might be right about ZA, but rumor has it...  rock06r | 10/03/06
McAfee should let M$ to crash and burn  Linux Geek | 10/02/06
So you agree!  smartyram | 10/02/06
Nice catch, smartyram  John Zern | 10/02/06
Argh!  zkiwi | 10/02/06
You can whine as you want.  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Just in case...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Not quite. My brain cell's still there.  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
if you're going to be such a baby..  Monkey_MCSE | 10/03/06
Good call!  Linux User 147560 | 10/03/06
So according to you  zkiwi | 10/02/06
It will never be 1/100th as bad as it is now  TripleII | 10/02/06
Umm actually  Linux User 147560 | 10/02/06
My point  TripleII | 10/02/06
McAfee has a Point.  savatar | 10/02/06
Point is, time moves on and things change.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Microsft however is...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
No they aren't  A.Sinic | 10/02/06
Wow!  Linux User 147560 | 10/02/06
Typical Linux Penguin babble....  rock06r | 10/03/06
You need to  Linux User 147560 | 10/03/06
Erm...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Again 1999 stuff....  rock06r | 10/03/06
They were still found to be a monopoly on appeal  zkiwi | 10/03/06
From Harvard law itself...  Linux User 147560 | 10/03/06
Do you think that means they can do nothing?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
Always?  Patrick Jones | 10/03/06
Could be done....  techboy_z | 10/03/06
Still don't see a problem.....  JoeMama_z | 10/02/06
Then you're blind  Fred Fredrickson | 10/03/06
no its not....  JoeMama_z | 10/03/06
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Yes, it does have. Maybe you have heard of tablets  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Whether they NEED IT TO WORK  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Sorry, they developed the entire thing  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
You are still incapable  zkiwi | 10/02/06
No, you simply refuse to listen.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
So, the EU advice to Microsoft  zkiwi | 10/03/06
MS is right, they don't need to sell Vista in Europe.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
So they shouldn't have Keyboards either?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Retard  zkiwi | 10/02/06
You obviously lack the ability to  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
So, what's your excuse then?  zkiwi | 10/03/06
You are the only one  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
hmm, no security is not a new market  NoThomas | 10/03/06
You're rehashing a failed argument  zkiwi | 10/03/06
Just NOT true... Mostly.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
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you're retarded...  JoeMama_z | 10/02/06
Once again ZDNet leaves out important details  PB_z | 10/02/06
Setting a precedent  whisperycat | 10/02/06
C'mon security vendors, please leave Microsoft alone!!!  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
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Yes, I know Microsoft enters the security market!  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
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Hmm... Nice comments!  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Well...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
I'm not smoking. You're the one.  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Well...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Wrong again.  Grayson Peddie | 10/02/06
Ok, so having reached this point  zkiwi | 10/02/06
zkiwi, I take it back  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
One has to stoop that low  zkiwi | 10/03/06
What ever you need to justify yourself...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
Whatever  zkiwi | 10/03/06
Partially Agree  TripleII | 10/02/06
Another whiner that doesn't have kernel access.  osreinstall | 10/02/06
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Well Well  osreinstall | 10/02/06
So...  zkiwi | 10/02/06
Get off the monopoly theme.  osreinstall | 10/02/06
So, you are denying  zkiwi | 10/02/06
No I am not but you are overlooking details.  osreinstall | 10/02/06
Assert away  zkiwi | 10/02/06
I shall  osreinstall | 10/02/06
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Go read what Rob has to say about the AV industry.  osreinstall | 10/02/06
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Once again, Windows x64 does NOT have a monopoly!  PB_z | 10/02/06
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And you are full of BS.  osreinstall | 10/03/06
So  zkiwi | 10/03/06
Are you quoting words I never spoke?  osreinstall | 10/03/06
Or, to put it another way -  whisperycat | 10/02/06
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MS, code your OS so AV is irrelevant  Boot_Agnostic | 10/03/06
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Let us seperate fact from fiction..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/06
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