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By Joris Evers, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Mar 13, 2007 8:57:00 PM

As Microsoft is out touting the "wow" of Windows Vista, two federal agencies are among those saying "whoa."

The Department of Transportation (DOT) and the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) cite fear of compatibility problems as one of the reasons not to allow their tens of thousands of employees to upgrade to Microsoft's latest operating system.

"We are temporarily not permitting computers with the Vista operating system to be connected to our networks," Michael Baum, a NIST spokesman, said Tuesday. The organization's technology staff is testing NIST applications and evaluating the security in Windows Vista. The same holds true for Internet Explorer 7 and Office 2007, he said.

It is not unusual that agencies aren't rushing to install major software updates. Large organizations in particular tend to do a lot of testing before upgrading. The same happened when Microsoft released Service Pack 2 for Windows XP. The actions by DOT, which employs about 54,000 people, and NIST, with 2,900 employees, were first reported by Information Week.

The DOT also bans Vista, Office 2007 and IE 7. In addition to compatibility concerns, the department lists cost, available funding and a pending headquarters move as reasons not to upgrade, according to a DOT memo dated January 19 (click for PDF of the memo). The memo is still current, a DOT representative said Tuesday.

"There appears to be no compelling technical or business case for upgrading to these new Microsoft software products," according to the memo. The department plans to issue an update next month to clarify its strategy for 2008 and beyond, the representative said.

In a statement, Microsoft said it is working with many government agencies to help them adopt its latest products. "We respect the customer's decision," the company said.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the largest organization under the DOT, is taking the opportunity to consider alternatives to Microsoft's operating system and productivity software, said Tammy Jones, an FAA spokeswoman. This includes including running Linux on desktops and using Google's online applications, she said.

"We're trying to see what the cost impact would be to the FAA to convert to the new Microsoft products," Jones said. "We want to explore what some of the alternatives are. Google is one that we're looking at, so is Linux." The FAA has about 45,000 employees.

Vista has been available to businesses since late November and was released to the general public at the end of January. About 90 million copies of the operating system will be installed this year, predicts IDC. The analyst firm also foresees that consumers will be first to adopt the system. Businesses should be cautious, IDC advises.

"Business customers should take a cautious approach to adopting new Windows technologies and need to go through a normal evaluation cycle," IDC analyst Al Gillen wrote in a recent report. "Most organizations should incorporate a move to Windows Vista in their longer-term road map--unless they are planning to move toward competitive solutions."

Many organizations will need up to 18 months after the Vista ship date to verify their applications, get other software makers to support the operating system and run tests, analyst firm Gartner said in a December report. "Sooner or later, most organizations will deploy Windows Vista," Gartner's analysts said.

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If xuniL_Z find it 'criminal' to distibute an OS for free (a dubious interpetation of anti dumping laws), then did xuniL_z support he EU suit against MSFT for giving the IE Browser away for free with ... (Read the rest)
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Please let them announce a switch to Open Source & Linux whisperycat   | 03/13/07
You got that right. xuniL_z   | 03/13/07
And for good reason IT_User   | 03/13/07
Of course there is..... xuniL_z   | 03/13/07
You said downgrade IT_User   | 03/13/07
x486 w/ RedHat 2.0? [NT] swoopee   | 03/13/07
ok, maybe it's the wrong term xuniL_z   | 03/13/07
No get back into your wayback machine voska   | 03/14/07
I could do that. xuniL_z   | 03/14/07
re: You said downgrade wally247   | 03/14/07
Are you kidding? MageOfChaos   | 03/14/07
Ok, here is the deal. xuniL_z   | 03/15/07
Now a word from Linus on DRM xuniL_z   | 03/13/07
LOL! Loverock Davidson   | 03/13/07
Thanks for sharing ikeeickholdt   | 03/14/07
God yes! guiri   | 03/14/07
No truer words spoken DarthRidiculous   | 03/13/07
Sure hasn't stopped you from xuniL_z   | 03/13/07
95% holding off on Linux? jasonp@...   | 03/14/07
well, it seems to me the article xuniL_z   | 03/14/07
update to Vista janesman2007   | 03/14/07
Ok, heres the thing. xuniL_z   | 03/15/07
Why upgrade boomchuck1   | 03/15/07
Killer Ap Required wjkahlssmd@...   | 04/05/07
Portland project 1.0 is already there. miyojim   | 03/15/07
sounds like somebody xuniL_z   | 03/16/07
re: well, it seems to me the article rchasse2002   | 03/20/07
Uh.... It just came out! Leria   | 03/14/07
Yep, it just came out guiri   | 03/14/07
The Troll is right (somewhat) Byte_Lurker   | 03/15/07
Yes, laugh on, - scriller and shriller pkrdk   | 03/20/07
Actually bruceslog   | 01/03/08
Actually xunil pulls those numbers out of it's rectum . <NT> Non_Zealot   | 01/05/08
Not YET! Leria   | 03/14/07
True but... ikeeickholdt   | 03/14/07
No compelling business case - YET DaveMorris   | 03/14/07
Bad analogy mswift@...   | 01/03/08
here's some interesting words Zanzibar5   | 03/14/07
If you cite compatibility concerns as keeping you from moving to Vista, PB_z   | 03/13/07
Hmmm... Cardinal_Bill   | 03/13/07
Well, another "enlightened one" GuidingLight   | 03/13/07
A little late to worry about your tax dollars Ole Man   | 04/05/07
Not to worry though mister shill Non_Zealot   | 01/05/08
Are you suggesting xuniL_z   | 03/13/07
Criminals? voska   | 03/14/07
No, the opposite. xuniL_z   | 03/14/07
You are correct mames1701   | 03/14/07
On comparable systems? fencer   | 01/03/08
For a home user maybe voska   | 03/14/07
Laws? guiri   | 03/14/07
Actually, no, the opposite... JohnBoyTheGreat   | 03/14/07
RE: No, the opposite. rchasse2002   | 03/20/07
Uh huh , you are preaching to the choir ,,, Non_Zealot   | 01/05/08
And what about when MSFT does it? mejohnsn   | 01/14/08
Forget FUD. MageOfChaos   | 03/14/07
Don't be silly! Ole Man   | 04/05/07
Just one piece of the costing pie... ikeeickholdt   | 03/14/07
This is reality speaking: MageOfChaos   | 03/14/07
Distribution of Linux - good to know ikeeickholdt   | 03/15/07
I did a fair amount of research. MageOfChaos   | 03/15/07
don't forget Xandros Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User   | 03/14/07
Don't forget Boot_Agnostic   | 03/15/07
Yeah, or just keep paying Microsoft thru the nose Ole Man   | 04/05/07
That's the best time to switch voska   | 03/14/07
Re-writing apps ikeeickholdt   | 03/14/07
You will find Ole Man   | 04/05/07
re-write vs modify mswift@...   | 01/03/08
It Sounded OK to Me hforman@...   | 03/14/07
Compatibility vs. cost DNSB   | 03/15/07
Pretty much sums it up eh!? Linux User 147560   | 03/13/07
Yep, sure does. xuniL_z   | 03/13/07
Well at least that much is true IT_User   | 03/13/07
You did read the original posts? xuniL_z   | 03/13/07
Behind? Sabz5150   | 03/14/07
You demonstrate the..... xuniL_z   | 03/14/07
Please stop feeding this troll!!! linux for me   | 03/14/07
Another demonstration xuniL_z   | 03/14/07
Not all of us are geeks or obnoxious Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User   | 03/14/07
But I like feeding the troll. Sabz5150   | 03/15/07
hrothgar xuniL_z   | 03/15/07
Sapz5150 xuniL_z   | 03/15/07
It's B not P!!!!!!!!!!! Sabz5150   | 03/15/07
Your name is not... xuniL_z   | 03/15/07
Technology of the future , what do you mean , DRM . Non_Zealot   | 01/05/08
Look around... jasonp@...   | 03/14/07
You are totally wrong in your statement xuniL_z   | 03/14/07
So you're one of the reasons Ole Man   | 04/05/07
You're one of the biggest hypocrites around . Non_Zealot   | 01/05/08
Also, in regards to servers xuniL_z   | 03/14/07
ENd of the software upgrade cycle jsjag1   | 03/14/07
There is something you need to learn xuniL_z   | 03/15/07
Well stated ikeeickholdt   | 03/14/07
"I don't have anything against the Linux operating system"? Ole Man   | 04/05/07
Not to mention he and Ye Non_Zealot   | 01/05/08
Since when did a troll need a point? TtfnJohn   | 03/14/07
And that is to explain.... xuniL_z   | 03/14/07
Good Alexisbarrister@...   | 03/13/07
words dhays   | 03/14/07
Federal agencies ban Windows Vista Loverock Davidson   | 03/13/07
Ya right! bchesmer   | 03/14/07
ROFLMAO! QueenMama   | 03/14/07
Ease of ......not really LStewart   | 03/14/07
Normal Enterprise Caution Patanjali   | 03/13/07
Not normal caution.... techboy_z   | 03/14/07
Enterprise is slooooooooooooow Patanjali   | 03/20/07
"BAN?" bob in FL   | 03/13/07
It's government voska   | 03/14/07
Good point Badgered   | 03/14/07
Misleading headline! tubiak@...   | 03/14/07
BAN is indeed far from the truth Marty R. Milette   | 03/14/07
I've seen governments do this voska   | 03/14/07
"the Linux fanboys"? Probably! Ole Man   | 04/05/07
censored ? mjvtz@...   | 03/15/07
error on my part ! mjvtz@...   | 03/15/07
Welcome to the world of ZDNET !!! Non_Zealot   | 01/05/08
Upgrade? fde101   | 03/14/07
News flash, new systems don't get immediate green lights Boot_Agnostic   | 03/14/07
And beside that Ole Man   | 04/05/07
Great Customer Service - Wow mlindl   | 03/14/07
Uhh, if you work with the feds this shouldn't be a surprise tbarr@...   | 03/14/07
If the feds run 2 years behind everyone else... jasonp@...   | 03/14/07
No Vista? dingers@...   | 03/14/07
No real surpise SmartCookie   | 03/14/07
Just do your homework ikeeickholdt   | 03/14/07
Logic? pkrdk   | 03/27/07
Vista Certification ceh4702   | 03/14/07
OPERATION HAPPY PLANET BALTHOR   | 03/14/07
HAPPY PLANET .. ZoltanZ   | 03/14/07
Don't Worry! Ole Man   | 03/14/07
You have conspicuously xuniL_z   | 03/15/07
Thanks for the input Ole Man   | 04/05/07
My ulcer thanks you. MageOfChaos   | 03/14/07
hydrogen=electric Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User   | 03/15/07
Yes, and no. MageOfChaos   | 03/15/07
No 'lectricity? NickV5   | 03/14/07
Vista...making the world aware: there are other options. fredmcgee   | 03/14/07
propaganda and ethics in journalism corticus   | 03/14/07
Ever heard of "due diligence"? -Kestrel-   | 03/14/07
Deployed? pmshah@...   | 03/14/07
Windows-Related Deaths!!! tges@...   | 03/14/07
propaganda and ethics in journalism tkriel@...   | 03/15/07
Not uncommon Apache19   | 03/14/07
Not Suprising; Probably because of IPv6 ghalverson_z   | 03/14/07
Another non story scottie_clark@...   | 03/14/07
I JUST DUMPED VISTA AND OFFICE 2007! primusic   | 03/14/07
I JUST DUMPED VISTA AND OFFICE 2007! a.benny@...   | 03/14/07
ARE YOU HERE TO TRY AND TELL US xuniL_z   | 03/14/07
Reply to xunil Non_Zealot   | 01/05/08
You are a troll, not an expert. mrmckeb@...   | 03/14/07
Vista runs slow on 512MB RAM tracy anne   | 03/15/07
Great Shill! Ole Man   | 04/05/07
Message has been deleted. ZoltanZ   | 03/14/07
Talk about FUD wizardb@...   | 03/14/07
Are you saying Al Gore guiri   | 03/14/07
Another solution to global warming? MageOfChaos   | 03/14/07
Pee on a tree! wjgrimm   | 03/14/07
Global warming DNSB   | 03/15/07
Don't blame Vista, blame bad programmers mames1701   | 03/14/07
No one else to blame but the programmers User-01   | 03/14/07
How are you sure that Vista is not to blame? miyojim   | 03/15/07
I think I'll wait for you guys to offer a new OS intrepi@...   | 03/17/07
Why do you think they produced something so incompatable? Ole Man   | 04/05/07
This was old news LAST week... -Kestrel-   | 03/14/07
Better yet Ole Man   | 04/05/07
Federal Agencies ban Windows Vista a.benny@...   | 03/14/07
Ban? ...What???!! mustang_z   | 03/14/07
What's the Big Deal? TechinMN   | 03/14/07
Windows - the virus of all viruses schlandower   | 03/14/07
Linux just plain works better in today's world. joe.smetona@...   | 03/14/07
Crazy man. alert xuniL_z   | 03/16/07
No comparison with security issues. joe.smetona@...   | 03/19/07
"facts"? Ole Man   | 04/05/07
Windows is the hackers preffered platform Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User   | 03/15/07
It's a good thing you xuniL_z   | 03/16/07
Didn't you mean Secunia? (Secunia.com) joe.smetona@...   | 03/19/07
uncommon good sense from the Feds draciron@...   | 03/14/07
MS & DOD operating system partnership? avallee@...   | 03/14/07
Way behind times and waaaay overboard Ole Man   | 04/05/07
At Least the US Gov Shows Some Common Sense jimc52@...   | 03/14/07
I see more M$ supporter FUD here Old Timer 8080   | 03/14/07
I agree with most of what you said... MageOfChaos   | 03/14/07
So..... kodakmak   | 03/14/07
Some Feds Ban Vista jasprey   | 03/14/07
Thanks Jasprey :) jimc52@...   | 03/16/07
What's your point?? jasprey   | 03/14/07
To those who fight tooth and nail for windows guiri   | 03/14/07
Federal Government Offices had dumped MS Office before Lurabyss   | 03/14/07
When kodakmak   | 03/18/07
Oh it's not that long ago pkrdk   | 03/27/07
The Man behind the curtain jasprey   | 03/14/07
I don't see any reason to not allow them.... jgmsys@...   | 03/14/07
I hate the <enter> key when on this forum. jgmsys@...   | 03/14/07
NIST? Ironic imho mikez@...   | 03/14/07
Arizona... MageOfChaos   | 03/14/07