Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
goldenpirate@... | 11/17/07
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Hackers is the key word
i8thecat | 11/19/07
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Yes! That's what I'm talking about! ...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
  
Vive la resistance...
Information_z | 11/24/07
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One day in the US ; maybe...
JCitizen | 11/26/07
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RE: Hackers is the keyword
TacoSauce | 11/19/07
|
  
wrong analgoy
adr5@... | 11/20/07
|
   
Not Quite
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
    
Correct!
thx-1138_@... | 11/22/07
|
     
Where's the sign?
d_r_p_ | 11/24/07
|
     
Uptight and foolish...
Information_z | 11/24/07
|
     
just one more thought...
Information_z | 11/24/07
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no
dialated8 | 11/26/07
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Remember, it's not just internet sharing here!
kamahl928 | 11/19/07
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But it IS Illegal
hforman@... | 11/19/07
|
 
You are correct...
D-Ram | 11/20/07
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re: You are correct...
goldenpirate@... | 11/21/07
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re: Hackers is the key word
goldenpirate@... | 11/21/07
|
 
I think you mean crack
AJ-Ubuntu-User | 11/24/07
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Thank you
spookyone1 | 11/24/07
|
 
Logically, you are right
spookyone1 | 11/24/07
|

Why don't you go WiFi and secure your network?
tikigawd | 11/19/07
|
 
What if you learn to read English instead?
XweAponX | 11/19/07
|
  
How about you?
VistaUranus | 11/19/07
|
   
UHMMMM....just speaking for myself here....
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
    
We Agree!
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
     
Nah, no 'genious' in these 'jeans'...
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
 
re: Why don't you go WiFi and secure your network?
goldenpirate@... | 11/21/07
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Confession
xrayangiodoc | 11/19/07
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Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
pegarner@... | 11/19/07
|

Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
pegarner@... | 11/19/07
|
 
Freudian slip?
plawler | 11/19/07
|
  
Owner's Responsibility
GeneBuettner | 11/19/07
|
   
Radio Waves Bye Bye
adstock | 11/19/07
|
  
Leave a penny take a penny...
forbes9000 | 11/19/07
|
 
Kudos pegarner!...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
  
There are a number of flaws going on here...
Media-Ted@... | 11/19/07
|
   
I realize everything you are saying...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
   
BTW - CBs transmit.
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
    
True Weakness in the CB Analogy
DigitalFrog | 11/20/07
|
     
Yes someone should pay for the infrastucture...
JCitizen | 11/21/07
|
     
Piggybackers are not stealing... The owner of the router is illegally tx
dialated8 | 11/27/07
|
  
54Mbps ? and legal access or not, for UK.
applecart2000@... | 11/20/07
|
  
FCC Rules CRF 47.
lscott@... | 11/20/07
|
   
I don't see you getting off topic at all...
JCitizen | 11/21/07
|
 
Letter or Spirit of the Law?
mail@... | 11/19/07
|
  
Agreed...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
  
I would argue that open wi-fi is merely balancing the outstanding injustice
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
   
Interesting aspect...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
   
CALL ME SCROOGE But....
applecart2000@... | 11/20/07
|
   
Costs?
GM Fedorchuk | 11/20/07
|
    
Moral World
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
    
problem there
merc2dogs` | 11/21/07
|
   
ISPs are Thieves
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|

That's you conscience speaking...
Technogeez | 11/19/07
|
 
My conscience is clear...
MarkHarrison | 11/19/07
|
  
WiFi Courtesy
rjacksix | 11/19/07
|
 
I so agree...
German Bosco | 11/19/07
|

Open Door
fyao | 11/19/07
|
 
Apples and oranges
Ryoko_z | 11/19/07
|
  
Actually, it's not apples and oranges
maldain | 11/19/07
|
   
Not even a fruit.
TechinMN | 11/19/07
|
    
Nutty As A Fruitcake
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
     
Your argument is also faulty
alaniane@... | 11/19/07
|
     
Message has been deleted.
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
     
There's a huge difference here...
kamahl928 | 11/19/07
|
  
Federal Telecomunications Act
theunpilot | 11/19/07
|
   
According to your interpretation, then...
TechinMN | 11/19/07
|
   
I argue that you got it wrong...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
    
and you have it wrong as well
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
     
Just an FYI...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
   
Really, you show your own ignorance.
Farrell.McGovern | 11/19/07
|
    
Correction!
Farrell.McGovern | 11/19/07
|
     
Technically....
scole@... | 11/19/07
|
    
Yes and the old adage that...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
   
The Federal Communications
Ole Man | 11/23/07
|
 
no. that's not what he's saying
Pathman | 11/19/07
|
  
Again a straw man argument
maldain | 11/19/07
|
   
uh no.
Pathman | 11/19/07
|
   
????
sid6767 | 11/19/07
|
 
Whose stuff?
bpolhemus@... | 11/19/07
|
 
try that with your insurance company
bstreet | 11/19/07
|
  
Insurance Companies vs. The Law
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
   
Intelligence vs. YOUR 'common sense'...
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
    
Wrong Again
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
     
wronger still
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
 
The difference is...
kamahl928 | 11/19/07
|

Not the same thing
balsover | 11/19/07
|
 
Thank you...
German Bosco | 11/19/07
|
 
Does your use...
bpolhemus@... | 11/19/07
|
  
You're Stealing Service
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
   
Again, you fall far short of the mark..as you always will
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
    
The Ignorance Is All Yours
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
     
Actually, you didn't respond to the argument at all
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
     
permission is key
emjeyzee | 11/20/07
|
    
re: you fall short-always will
tachyon888@... | 11/21/07
|
  
Well Actually.....
Quickiwi | 11/19/07
|
   
In your case, you are exactly right...
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
    
Paying For Data Usage
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|

Technically this is wrong.
jskline0@... | 11/19/07
|
 
Everything about law is technical..
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
  
Kudos to pegarner...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
 
But they didn't secure it, so they don't care if you connect (NT)
kamahl928 | 11/19/07
|

You should send your legal info to these guys...
conchchowder | 11/19/07
|
 
All I can say is...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|

Where do you live??
Tech-tock | 11/19/07
|
 
He probably lives in the US..
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|

YES, but...
cjcon | 11/19/07
|
Lets face facts
pcguy777 | 11/19/07
|
Huh?
spstanley | 11/19/07
|
Trespassers shot on site
Jim Johnson | 11/19/07
|

Re: Tresspassers
parkerti | 11/19/07
|
 
IT IS ALWAYS FREE if it isn't encrypted
ideallypc | 11/19/07
|
  
Actually, a thief is a thief
maldain | 11/19/07
|
   
I think not.
TechinMN | 11/19/07
|
    
Not Thinking
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
     
Maybe you need to STOP thinking, cuz obviously you're not very good at it
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
  
So by your argument....
Quickiwi | 11/19/07
|
   
Sorry Typo
Quickiwi | 11/19/07
|
  
It Is Not Stealing!
parkerti | 11/19/07
|
  
Right on! (NT)
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|

So if someone flys over your air space...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
cmeitl@... | 11/19/07
|

I also have a PDA that supports WiFi
balsover | 11/19/07
|
 
actually....
Ryoko_z | 11/19/07
|
  
Some thing, never seen a 100 % access point while traveling
balsover | 11/19/07
|

You ARE responsible for how your laptop is configured
Too-Tired Techie | 11/19/07
|
 
I think imposing fines and jail terms for people ...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
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RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
conchchowder | 11/19/07
|

consent?
plawler | 11/19/07
|
 
an unlocked door is implied consent
davagain | 11/19/07
|
  
Implied Consent
Mr_Wizard | 11/19/07
|
  
re: an unlocked door is implied consent
goldenpirate@... | 11/21/07
|
 
yes, consent
mkreutzian | 11/19/07
|
  
Sorry, that's rather twisted.
maldain | 11/19/07
|
   
The problem
alaniane@... | 11/19/07
|
    
Total true...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
 
It happens around my local...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|

Very very weak excuse for criminal behavior
balsover | 11/19/07
|
 
sigh
Pathman | 11/19/07
|

Mine is open - ON Purpose
cwho@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
cjc5447 | 11/19/07
|

Not much grey
maldain | 11/19/07
|
 
If you are charged with a violation...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
tqdavis1@... | 11/19/07
|

You are wrong
balsover | 11/19/07
|
 
Actually,
alaniane@... | 11/19/07
|

Yeah, and water used to be 'free' too
Too-Tired Techie | 11/19/07
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RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
mead.rose@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
sysop-dr | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
leeepson7800 | 11/19/07
|
Burger King's WiFi is illegal?
nickc@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
johngayfer@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
WGPhaneuf@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
Sloan Miller | 11/19/07
|
Maybe they aren't so dumb
JDough | 11/19/07
|

So true! (NT)
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
It's always free if the front door is unlocked
LeeW274 | 11/19/07
|

If the front door is unlocked....
Mr_Wizard | 11/19/07
|
 
In Europe: I am told...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
How is it different?
gitmo | 11/19/07
|
Who to blame.
specer_jamestomlinson@... | 11/19/07
|

I believe most AP providers that have a brain...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
djhill8262 | 11/19/07
|

Exactly...also points to the intent part of my argument...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
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Unencrypted = Free ?
l.bunker@... | 11/19/07
|

To me the free air wave concept that we have...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
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Free for all
avibp | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
kathy2193 | 11/19/07
|
Router Setup nightmares the #1 cause
dbrimlow | 11/19/07
|

Which brings me to the point....
Quickiwi | 11/19/07
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It's not quite the same as unguarded property
jtlogan9694@... | 11/19/07
|
stealing wi-fi from othere
vger_z | 11/19/07
|

Fools, thieves malcontents and free-loaders?
avibp | 11/19/07
|
IP Cop
rimbaud@... | 11/19/07
|
Unsecured Wifi
lyndaj70@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
j2mitchell1@... | 11/19/07
|
stealing is stealing
Tinker@... | 11/19/07
|
Message has been deleted.
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|

Yes sir, you are correct!
handydan918 | 11/19/07
|
 
Shut Up?
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
  
Ain't much common about YOUR sense then, apparently
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
   
Lawyers?
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
    
Apparently you went to one of those 'funny-mentalist' churches
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
     
Freely Offered
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
    
Sorry pony: but I got to agree with 1stcyberian...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
     
Enforcement Isn't The Issue
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
     
Okay, I'll bite! But I still prefer to err on the side..
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|

Clueless in Seattle
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
 
And YOUR analogy is even weaker...
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
  
Apples?
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
   
I haven't earned it as long as you are still posting
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
 
Well, duhh...
handydan918 | 11/19/07
|

Theft of services.
Technogeez | 11/19/07
|
Poor Memory
soulfyremac@... | 11/19/07
|

And I expect you to keep your 'transmissions'...OUT of my 'personal space'
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
 
And I trust you....
Quickiwi | 11/19/07
|
  
RTFM
TechinMN | 11/19/07
|
  
Oh, so what? Let's 'dumb it down' then?
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
 
Same Old Problem
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
  
YES EXACTLY LIKE THAT YOU MORON!!
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
   
Ad Hominem LOL
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
    
oooh, my bad...making you feel all 'bullied' and all
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
     
Enabling
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
   
Pretty Typical
Technogeez | 11/20/07
|
  
Arguing WHAT?!
handydan918 | 11/19/07
|
   
Privacy
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|

Good for you.
avibp | 11/19/07
|
 
Trespassers Denied?
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
  
Yet another dipwad checks in...
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
   
Negligence
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
    
Keep posting...each one is more amazing than the last.
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
     
More Ignorance
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
  
Uh, no...it isn't.
handydan918 | 11/19/07
|
   
Trespassing
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
    
Why I would have the right...
dialated8 | 02/18/08
|
Thief? Criminal? Illegal? Wrong? Give me a break
JonathanSeer | 11/19/07
|

You got it right, for the most part.
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|

No! you are wrong! it is theft to steal quota
On Site PC | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
Mike.Waters | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
ingle1@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
dcsummers | 11/19/07
|

Kids? What do you expect?
avibp | 11/19/07
|

Message has been deleted.
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|

I don't defend the leechers...
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
Lots of gray/grey here
DLee_z | 11/19/07
|

Gray/Grey
parkerti | 11/19/07
|

just a heads up
donthetech | 11/19/07
|
My Wi-Fi....
3dtodd | 11/19/07
|
The problem is with the survey
joanne@... | 11/19/07
|

Unless of course
Quickiwi | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
ads@... | 11/19/07
|
Lots of insecure WAPS
ads@... | 11/19/07
|
Using an unsecured Wi-Fi is NOT stealing
justinsail | 11/19/07
|
Canadians can't have their wifi open
avibp | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
rick. | 11/19/07
|

No, you got the analogy wrong.
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
 
Only it's not your yard
rick. | 11/19/07
|
  
Yes...you're right
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
Stealing Or Not
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|

Thank you
avibp | 11/19/07
|
 
Free Choice
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
  
and if somebody is denying permission, they need to state it
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|

Equally amazed that you don't get it
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
 
You're Simply Wrong
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
  
I'm not wrong, you're just blind
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
  
Illegal?
handydan918 | 11/19/07
|
We need solutions for the real problems
zdnet@... | 11/19/07
|

Who the hell is the ONLY agency to offer satellite launching services?
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|

The only reason the public doesn't own all the assets..
JCitizen | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
CitizenW | 11/19/07
|

RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
donnamarievincent@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
dennyc5@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
madmax_2069 | 11/19/07
|

NO!!! IT IS NOT CONSIDERED STEALLING! ARRRRGGGHHHH!!!
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
It's the wi-fi owners responsibilty to secure from others
dtoolman | 11/19/07
|

Sigh
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|
 
BIGGER SIGH....
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
 
that's not the point
kathy2193 | 11/19/07
|
  
Bandwidth Isn't The Issue
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
I know someone who leaves his wi-fi open
roaming | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
CrashOverkill | 11/19/07
|

WIFI band is unlicensed; nobody owns it
rick. | 11/19/07
|
Aren't the ISPs MORE guilty of 'piggybacking'?
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|

if you have a guarantee...
rick. | 11/19/07
|
 
Yes, you are exactly right (again)
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
  
Original Intent
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
Trolling
Pony99CA | 11/19/07
|

Not true
rick. | 11/19/07
|
 
You're wasting your breath....
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
  
Making Waves
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|

The all-too-obvious answer...
handydan918 | 11/19/07
|
I'm guilty
sconaway@... | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
aloisonline@... | 11/19/07
|
ZDNet is flat wrong
kristinh | 11/19/07
|
Repeat after me....
rcugini@... | 11/19/07
|

Amazed by Two things
sdbaumann@... | 11/19/07
|

spoofed
donthetech | 11/19/07
|

Never seen settings reset by loss of power.
Bob.Kerns | 11/19/07
|
 
RE: "Guess I'm just feeling negative about the whole thing, huh?"
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
HAHAHAHA MAC Address Tracking?!?!
Farrell.McGovern | 11/19/07
|
I buy dsl & router for my family not you & you know it.
T Mike | 11/19/07
|

I'd rather have laws protecting us FROM the stupid like you
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
 
owch
T Mike | 11/20/07
|
  
What if ?
zeusx64@... | 11/20/07
|
   
Another good point..
JCitizen | 11/23/07
|

lol...
dialated8 | 11/27/07
|
 
heh-heh-heh
T Mike | 11/30/07
|
From post #155, Titled "Enabling"...response...
1stcyberian | 11/19/07
|
You better protect your wireless connection
John Musbach | 11/19/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
Jeff Hayes | 11/19/07
|
Too many analogies!!!
kingmph@... | 11/19/07
|

Evaporation????
On Site PC | 11/20/07
|

Not The Same
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
The BIG problem is???
Rotary84 | 11/19/07
|

OFF TOPIC:- wow political correctness overload!
applecart2000@... | 11/20/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
FlameFlameFlame | 11/20/07
|
How about....
Forensicsguy | 11/20/07
|
I Confess
markdoiron | 11/20/07
|

I agree
fred@... | 11/20/07
|
 
A man walks into a buffet ....
TG2 | 11/20/07
|
Totally legal?
kwacka | 11/20/07
|
Hmmm disagreement
Krazyken39 | 11/20/07
|

VIsta Piggybacks WiFi For You...
NewOnTheBlock | 11/20/07
|
 
yes- U R guilty
T Mike | 11/20/07
|
  
WAIT the piont is...
NewOnTheBlock | 11/21/07
|
   
well, no you're not the 'bad guys'
T Mike | 11/21/07
|
   
This "points" to something else that should..
JCitizen | 11/23/07
|
Share the net!
rtalbert | 11/20/07
|

Share the net!
WPee | 11/20/07
|
Wi-Fi piggybackers
mjmce | 11/20/07
|
RE: Wi-Fi piggybackers confess
tsmith_47201 | 11/20/07
|
Stealing Is From Subscriber
M.J.D | 11/20/07
|
So anything the ISP does that reduces my bandwidth
1stcyberian | 11/20/07
|

I agree
r27smith200245@... | 11/20/07
|

Holes
DigitalFrog | 11/20/07
|
Are There Laws
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
Are There Laws?
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
Signal vs. Equipment
Pony99CA | 11/20/07
|
protection of property etc
applecart2000@... | 11/20/07
|
Wifi MoTD / banner \\ who says its illegal?
Tor Esproc | 11/21/07
|

Looking is not theft! But-
On Site PC | 11/23/07
|
 
On the other side of the coin..
JCitizen | 11/23/07
|

Yeah but...
dialated8 | 11/26/07
|
Feel Free To "Pick" My Door!
John Westra | 11/21/07
|

I'm glad there's someone out there...
thx-1138_@... | 11/23/07
|
 
sorry, but no...
dialated8 | 11/26/07
|
  
You could make the same argument for transmitting..
JCitizen | 11/26/07
|
   
I mean
dialated8 | 11/27/07
|
    
I definitely agree with you on reception..
JCitizen | 11/28/07
|
Consent forms
dialated8 | 11/26/07
|
They are responsible...
Leon Wells | 11/28/07
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I agree with you, but...
dialated8 | 11/28/07
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