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By Robert Lemos
Posted on ZDNet News: Dec 31, 2004 7:56:00 PM

The annual exercise of the Mac faithful--guessing the products Apple Computer plans to announce at MacWorld--has some Web sites predicting the release of a sub-$500 desktop aimed at new users.

Two Mac-focused sites--Think Secret and Apple Insider--reported on the possible release of a low-end Apple PC this week, citing unnamed sources. The rumored $499 Mac will have no monitor, 256MB of RAM, a 1.25GHz PowerPC G4 processor and a hard drive with storage capacity between 40GB and 80GB, according to the reports.

These details, while concrete, have not been confirmed by Apple. However, the strategy itself sounds sensible, said Gene Munster, a senior research analyst with investment firm Piper Jaffrey. Apple has garnered incredible shopping traffic through its stores but has not had great luck in turning browsers into buyers, he said.

"It is not out of the question that they do something like this," Munster said on Friday. "The problem this would solve is that the good traffic through the stores could be converted into new Mac users."

Munster believes that such a move could build additional momentum behind the so-called iPod halo effect. This theory suggests that the success of Apple's music player can attract customers to other products made by the same company. A Macintosh priced at $499 could convince Windows users and new computer buyers to make the switch, he said.

Apple could not be immediately reached for comment.

The Cupertino, Calif.-based Mac maker commands the lion's share of the hard drive-based music player market, even though it did not pioneer the segment. In the U.S. retail market, the iPod accounted for more than 80 percent of sales in the 12 months ended this October, according to research firm The NPD Group. That's up from about a two-thirds market share in the same period a year ago and a 40 percent share in its first year.

Converting some of that market share into a boost for Apple's anemic single-digit PC market share is a powerful incentive to building a lower-priced Mac, Piper Jaffray's Munster said.

"The Mac has always been considered a premium-priced product," he said.

The rumors of a new Mac follow the pattern of speculation that precede the annual MacWorld San Francisco Conference, the next edition of which is set to start Jan. 10. Before the 2004 event, rumors focused on the possible release of a $100 iPod music player. Those predictions turned out to be false; the company released its iPod Mini music player at a price of $249.

This year, some Web sites have been betting on the release of a flash memory-based iPod music player. Some analysts believe that suggestion to be solid and have predicted themselves that Apple will sell millions of flash iPods in short order.

Bear Stearns analyst Andy Neff said earlier this month that Apple could sell 6 million units in the current fiscal year, which ends in October 2005, and 13.5 million the following year, but at $160, a lower average price than Apple gets for its iPods (which retail from $249 for the iPod mini to $599 for the 60GB iPod Photo). Looking ahead to next year, Neff forecasts Apple may be able to grab 30 percent of the 34 million players that market researcher IDC estimates will be sold.

While product rumors boost interest in the semi-annual Mac pilgrimage, Apple has not appreciated details leaking out about its plans. The company has filed suit against three sites, including Think Secret and Apple Insider, for information about the sources of stories about Apple developing what's known in the music industry as a breakout box--a device for connecting musical instruments and other analog audio sources to a computer.

CNET News.com's Ina Fried contributed to this report.

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fourteen minutes a day  theo_durcan | 12/31/04
Versus the 5 minutes it takes to boot Macs  Confused by religion | 12/31/04
They aren't all like that...  BitTwiddler | 12/31/04
Time to upgrade those Macs Mills  Jeff Spicoli | 01/01/05
What viruses?  Confused by religion | 01/02/05
there has been  doh123 | 01/02/05
Yes and many of those pre OSX viri attacked MS products!  Laff | 01/03/05
SO LAME! DA...just plug the power chord in...  matson_z | 01/01/05
Troll Smarter Next time  frgough@... | 01/01/05
I, however, prefer to power down any machine not in use  Confused by religion | 01/02/05
I guess you turn your TV off at the wall, and DVD player etc  hipparchus2000 | 01/03/05
There is no power shortage  Linux User 147560 | 01/03/05
Why would you ever turn off your Mac?  tic swayback | 01/01/05
See my previous response...  Confused by religion | 01/02/05
in sleep mode...  doh123 | 01/02/05
At least for laptop Macs, sleep consumes almost no power  Atlant | 01/03/05
shutdown vs sleep  theo_durcan | 01/04/05
Slow Mac?  Ken_z | 01/03/05
Now we know you for what you are.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 01/04/05
happy  FilledOut | 12/31/04
Any out-of-the-box Mac IS a piece of junk vs. an equal PC. (NT)  Vily Clay | 12/31/04
You may be right  AmusedAtItAll | 12/31/04
Feel free to qualify your comments...  BitTwiddler | 12/31/04
Why don?t you have a clue about Mac or PC?  Vily Clay | 01/01/05
I got an athlon 64 that will smoke you overpriced mac.  jimk_z | 01/01/05
True and I could do the same...I've build countless  Laff | 01/01/05
you're not counting your labor  ctk76 | 01/01/05
Why do you want to try only Windows with $300 PCs? (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/01/05
No one adds RAM to a PC?  tic swayback | 01/01/05
256 RAM Windows 2000 vs. 256 RAM OS X = OS X is 4 times slower. (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/02/05
yes, and no  doh123 | 01/02/05
Yes, that?s depend but generally it?s true. (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/02/05
yeah...  doh123 | 01/03/05
vs 256 MB RAM on Win XP at default settings?  nucrash | 01/03/05
Not Graphic Designers though  FirstNLastN | 01/03/05
Why did you see Win XP where it was Win 2K? (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/03/05
A good start Vily, please continue...  tic swayback | 01/03/05
Windows 2000 vs. Mac OS 10.2  Vily Clay | 01/03/05
Thanks Vily, let's go further...  tic swayback | 01/03/05
Win XP vs OS X is more of a comparison  nucrash | 01/04/05
Bogus comparation  theo_durcan | 01/04/05
The point was - out of the box Mac vs. PC. (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/04/05
Can you easily buy a consumer machine from Dell with 2000 these days?  tic swayback | 01/04/05
Did you notice the words 'Windows 2000'? (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/05/05
Yes, that's why I asked  tic swayback | 01/10/05
Vily... entitled to your opinion even if wrong..  LazLong | 12/31/04
This is not about the word ?expensive?.  Vily Clay | 12/31/04
OK.. I see...  LazLong | 12/31/04
Now you have to learn to see further than your nose. (NT)  Vily Clay | 12/31/04
Had a little too much to drink, ha Vily?  dave95 | 12/31/04
dave95, are you trying ...  Vily Clay | 01/01/05
Vily, you are SO awesome!  mlindl | 01/01/05
Now that made me Laff!!!! heh heh heh  Laff | 01/01/05
Possible upgrade path for cheapos  cashaww | 01/02/05
I am wondering ? is anybody here who has half a brain? (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/01/05
C'mon, people, help him out here. Who's got the other half of Vily's brain?  buddhistMonkey | 01/01/05
BuddhistMonkey, it?s OK that you have half a brain of a monkey (NT).  Vily Clay | 01/02/05
People vs. monkeys (buddhistMonkey, etc.)  Vily Clay | 01/02/05
Vily rhymes with Billy. Billy with the belly on the bar:  hipparchus2000 | 01/03/05
hipparchus2000, saying nothing is not the reason to speak but you speak. NT  Vily Clay | 01/03/05
vily talkbacks are full of your opinion  hipparchus2000 | 01/03/05
Is it a sin to see things as they are? (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/04/05
Make it a fair contest Vily  tic swayback | 01/01/05
Oh Silly Vily  dave95 | 01/01/05
?Smart guys? believe the most important feature of a PC is its outfit. (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/02/05
Every girls crazy bout a sharp dressed Mac!  Laff | 01/03/05
Show us how you're smarter  tic swayback | 01/03/05
Agreed - Mac is a BEAUTIFUL piece of junk. (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/03/05
Junk is in the eye of the beholder I'm told.  Laff | 01/03/05
Vily, without facts, your argument is not as smart as mine  tic swayback | 01/03/05
tic, how often do you have problems with your memory? (NT)  Vily Clay | 01/04/05
$ 1,916 for Aurora and $3,274 for an equivalent Dual G5 1.8MHz  Vily Clay | 01/04/05
I think I'll still stay...  Arm A. Geddon | 12/31/04
Another worthless attempt from Apple  Mike Cox | 12/31/04
I stand by your side, Mike, however...  Grayson Peddie | 12/31/04
Mike Cox uses Unix  jimk_z | 01/01/05
You are so right  frgough@... | 01/01/05
Scary!  Spoon Jabber | 01/02/05
Mike Cox the NEW profit....:) I hear there is a compound  Laff | 01/03/05
Jim, it's prophet.  Anton Philidor | 01/03/05
What's the difference, really?  tic swayback | 01/03/05
Easier ways to make a living.  Anton Philidor | 01/03/05
Yeah butt if you make it your're IN BABY!  Laff | 01/03/05
Oh and with all those jobs going over seas...  Laff | 01/03/05
Be a modern prophet and profit  tic swayback | 01/03/05
Uh-huh  Real World | 01/11/05
i agree  hipparchus2000 | 01/03/05
9.0  Real World | 01/11/05
Cool. Bily Boi must be poopong his Depends.  ITGuy04 | 12/31/04
If Apple tries to sell me...  Anton Philidor | 12/31/04
So Far still just a rumor..  LazLong | 12/31/04
from what id guess  doh123 | 01/01/05
Love to see cheap Macs, but I will stick with Linux.  DonnieBoy | 12/31/04
Macs are not for everyone  dave95 | 01/01/05
You can run linux on a mac too  hipparchus2000 | 01/03/05
Shows you how OVERPRICED their stuff is...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 01/01/05
APPLE DEVELOPES SOFTWARE & OS X  matson_z | 01/01/05
You don't own/use one do you?  Squawkbox | 01/01/05
What, Apple has made its software run on Intel yet?  FilledOut | 01/03/05
I think in it's vaults it probably does have a verson  Laff | 01/03/05
There was a rumor  PA-ITGuy | 01/03/05
RE: Apple don't make...  JakAttak | 01/03/05
Re:Apple don't make...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 01/03/05
But your point is invalid/false.  Laff | 01/04/05
My $.02  PA-ITGuy | 01/01/05
Perhaps but don't forget the iPod HALO effect and  Laff | 01/01/05
now or never  PA-ITGuy | 01/01/05
RE: now or never  JakAttak | 01/03/05
My name is dave95, and I am a MacAddict  dave95 | 01/02/05
Dave and PA Market Share is very tricky. Apple is and  Laff | 01/02/05
Apple vs. Dell figures  PA-ITGuy | 01/02/05
Accountability  Harry Bardal | 01/02/05
Valid points, but...  PA-ITGuy | 01/02/05
"WalMart ethos"  Anton Philidor | 01/03/05
More on culture  tic swayback | 01/03/05
tic... agree about quality issue...  MacCanuck | 01/03/05
The price of cheap toasters.  Anton Philidor | 01/03/05
The price of cheap computers  tic swayback | 01/03/05
The price of cheap computers  seaside | 01/03/05
Computer science....?  Spoon Jabber | 01/03/05
I hear what you're saying Spoon  tic swayback | 01/03/05
It most definatly have to do with MS Monopoly tic  dave95 | 01/03/05
Tic  Spoon Jabber | 01/04/05
Tic and Spoon (hmmm seems familar somehow)  Laff | 01/04/05
You're right Laff  Spoon Jabber | 01/04/05
Well fist and most important get and estimate on repair  Laff | 01/03/05
Get an estimate  PA-ITGuy | 01/03/05
I understand your point...But let us consider how many  Laff | 01/03/05
Don't spend money yet  j.m.galvin | 01/03/05
Re: Don't spend money yet  PA-ITGuy | 01/03/05
PA-ITGuy - wierd  j.m.galvin | 01/03/05
Forgot something  j.m.galvin | 01/03/05
Thanks again  PA-ITGuy | 01/03/05
So you have booted or tried to boot off an OS 9 CD.  Laff | 01/03/05
OS9 CD  PA-ITGuy | 01/03/05
By ram swap do you mean you tried new ram from  Laff | 01/03/05
PA-ITGuy - both OSs on same volume  j.m.galvin | 01/03/05
RAM/Partitions  PA-ITGuy | 01/03/05
Have you tried hitting it with a rubber chicken and  Laff | 01/04/05
Ohhhh. I should've used a RUBBER chicken?!?! happy (NT)  PA-ITGuy | 01/04/05
Yeah I tried a live chicken once and it was not nearly  Laff | 01/04/05
A lot of Mac-bashing around here, h'm?  Linux_Developer | 01/01/05
heh heh heh..snicker....:)  Laff | 01/01/05
Really, . . here? Bashing isn't just to  FilledOut | 01/04/05
I hope it is more clever than just being cheap  mlindl | 01/01/05
X11?  tic swayback | 01/01/05
there are some nice X11 apps  doh123 | 01/01/05
This amounts to short sheeting the bed  Squawkbox | 01/01/05
Just read this hmmm not bad  Squawkbox | 01/01/05
I think the focus for Apple is the users who already  Laff | 01/05/05
Clear up a few things for the trolls on here...  olePigeon | 01/02/05
Yes, Macs are great, beautiful, great OS, but still more expensive.  DonnieBoy | 01/02/05
Yes, however...  olePigeon | 01/03/05
Hard to disagree, but I would like to see no name Macs.  DonnieBoy | 01/03/05
NO 'no name' Macs  openMind | 01/03/05
I don't know I think MS's biggest problem(S) was  Laff | 01/04/05
Backward compatibility a strength?  mlindl | 01/04/05
A great many people tout MS's continued backward  Laff | 01/04/05
This is a Good Thing(tm)  wolf_z | 01/02/05
A little math  j.m.galvin | 01/02/05
I agree and hope it is more than just a rumor.  LazLong | 01/02/05
Still to much  emcee_z | 01/02/05
True... but few OEMs have taken advantage of that yet.. despite antitrust..  LazLong | 01/02/05
"Hey, Mom.... just build your own PC" yeah, right.  el1jones | 01/03/05
Hey "IF" I can build a Linux PC that looks like my iMac  Laff | 01/04/05
At least for laptop Macs, sleep consumes almost no power.  Atlant | 01/03/05
No one "gets it"  Roger Ramjet | 01/03/05
Important for the living room box  tic swayback | 01/03/05
You got that right  Ken_z | 01/03/05
Windows will always suck, Mac will always be cool...  gtdworak | 01/03/05
With the possible exception of the Newton the none  Laff | 01/03/05
Agreed  rkadowns | 01/03/05
With the right marketing  FilledOut | 01/05/05
Funny how things turn...  theo_durcan | 01/03/05

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