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By Robert Lemos, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Oct 31, 2003 7:31:00 PM

Apple Computer said Friday that it plans to issue an update to older versions of Mac OS X to fix security flaws that were patched as part of the new Panther OS.

While some in the security community fretted that Apple would only make the patches available as part of the $129 Panther upgrade, Apple said it will also offer the security patches for older versions of Mac OS X.

"Apple's policy is to quickly address significant vulnerabilities in past releases of Mac OS X wherever feasible," the company said in a statement. "The shipment of Panther does not change this policy. Apple has an excellent track record of working with CERT (Computer Emergency Response Team) and the open-source community to proactively identify and correct potential vulnerabilities," it said.

The concern began on Tuesday, when Apple released an advisory that indicated that the Mac OS X 10.3 upgrade--which adds an improved Finder menu, better synchronization of files and a tool to help its users find a specific window on a crowded desktop--also includes more than a dozen "security enhancements."

At the time, some in the security community said they believed that Apple was not planning to offer updates for older Mac OS X versions and expressed their displeasure.

"It is not a friendly thing to tell your customers to shell out a lot of money to stay secure," said Thor Larholm, senior researcher for software security firm PivX Solutions. "It would be a dangerous precedent if they did."

David Goldsmith, director of research for @Stake, a security company that found four of the vulnerabilities, said it was his understanding that Apple was not planning on patching the flaws in earlier versions of the software.

"In my initial conversations with them, they said they weren't going to fix 10.2, but I wouldn't be surprised if they change that," he said.

Typically, companies that charge for software provide security updates for the software for a certain period of time. Microsoft provides support for its products for about five years and releases service packs every year that include all the enhancements to the software. Microsoft doesn't charge for the service packs.


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"Imagine if Microsoft tried to charge for security fixes--people would go crazy," Larholm said.

Linux vendors typically work things a bit differently, as so much of the software they distribute is produced by developers outside the companies. Red Hat, for example, charges about $40 for its desktop edition and provides a year of easily accessible updates for free through its Red Hat Network. After that, users either have to pay $60 a year for the service, manually install each update or subscribe to a free service such as Ximian's basic Red Carpet service. (Novell now owns Ximian.)

Apple's plan falls between the two models, offering bug fixes for free but charging $129 for the update to the operating system. Panther is the third update the company has released since Mac OS X debuted in March 2001.

The current set of vulnerabilities include a flaw in the operating system that causes applications to be installed that have insecure file permissions. Other vulnerabilities could allow a local or remote user to crash the system.

@stake's advisories say users should either upgrade to Panther or turn off the affected software component.

But PivX's Larholm said Apple would have to release some patches to previous versions of its OS or risk angering its users.

"They have stated that they want to release a new version of OS X every year, but this is the first time they have hinted that they will not be supporting any particular OS X version for more than that year and that they expect all their customers to upgrade their operating system on a yearly basis," he said.

CNET News.com's Ina Fried and ZDNet Australia's Patrick Gray contributed to this report.
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@STAKE ADVISORY
That occurred to me as well - that @stake seemed
to be plumping for Microsoft's security update
policies, not long after the dismissal of their CTO, Dan Geer, for participating in a study that e... (Read the rest)
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@Stake mlprice   | 10/29/03
RE: @Stake JakAttak   | 10/29/03
SECURITY FIXES AVAILABLE FreeBSD   | 10/29/03
Fixes ONLY for Mac OS X v10.3 and Server v10.3. dicktaurus@...   | 10/30/03
agree! and now they are spreading M$ FUD screaming silence   | 10/29/03
No doubt! KTLA   | 10/29/03
*ahem* ambiguity   | 10/29/03
There you go using common sense. STOP IT! No_Ax_to_Grind   | 10/29/03
when there's finally a decent discussion... ambiguity   | 10/29/03
I couldn't agree more! No_Ax_to_Grind   | 10/29/03
Reply to no_axe_to_grind's message d_jedi   | 10/29/03
debate is good... ambiguity   | 10/29/03
patch this broadway al   | 10/30/03
Can you say hypocrite? NoB$   | 11/01/03
Didn't MS have to bail Apple out... John Zern   | 10/29/03
Ummm you happen to be off by about 15 miles... Hard Cider   | 10/30/03
Umm, you had better check the Apple site. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 10/29/03
i have a dull axe to grind stephen732@...   | 10/29/03
Wibble... Sam_Lowry   | 10/29/03
i wouldn't trust... stephen732@...   | 10/29/03
Bob Sam_Lowry   | 10/29/03
Don - Where are you now???? bgoss@...   | 11/01/03
the king still has no clothes sackbut   | 10/30/03
@STAKE ADVISORY maxs   | 11/26/03
@Stake and Dan Geer mlprice   | 10/29/03
What's the difference? rapson   | 10/29/03
Exactly. Fred Fredrickson   | 10/29/03
show link, you're credibility is @stake stephen732@...   | 10/29/03
whats a fake flaw? JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
sigh stephen732@...   | 10/29/03
Good grief pschroeder@...   | 10/29/03
Good try stephen732@...   | 10/31/03
sad try, as usual pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
how can you compare a vunerablity with a mess broadway al   | 10/30/03
Obscure argument Fred Fredrickson   | 10/31/03
Difference?! = When prof'l analysts turn into prof'l ****** for monopolists dicktaurus@...   | 10/30/03
Another M$ shill rears his brainless head. NoB$   | 11/01/03
@stake d_jedi   | 10/29/03
@Stake a puppet of Microsoft? The ones who fired Greer! nagromme   | 10/29/03
Yep, @stake IS a 'Ho for M$BS and FUD. dicktaurus@...   | 10/31/03
Huh, $129 for a bug fix? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 10/29/03
Give Apple a minute or two tic swayback   | 10/29/03
Older OS's??? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 10/29/03
Just announced, but fixed in the new OS? default user_z   | 10/29/03
Re: Just announced, but fixed in the new OS? issthatso   | 10/29/03
Apple IS going to update Jaguar! MacGeek2121   | 11/03/03
Ha ha, if only Apple had thought to add FEATURES to Panther ;) nagromme   | 10/29/03
$129 for a .1 upgrade? Dang that's cheap. DanBirchall   | 10/29/03
ok first off its windows 2000, end of story... JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
Service packs. Hmm. DanBirchall   | 10/29/03
SP2 should be 1st quarter of next year i think. JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
re: if I was a mac user... bgoss@...   | 10/29/03
Right! KTLA   | 10/29/03
why wasn't that stuff in the origional OSX? JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
Because, Joe Fred Fredrickson   | 10/29/03
Fred... JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
KTLA... pschroeder@...   | 10/29/03
Sam, get a grip! Take your meds (LOL). Listen... dicktaurus@...   | 10/30/03
Not so obvious to me sackbut   | 10/30/03
If you had the Microsoft beta... dscherf   | 10/30/03
Upgrade <> security patching pschroeder@...   | 10/29/03
Not to mention, Panther is NOT a point upgrade nagromme   | 10/29/03
RE: Not to mention, Panther is NOT a point upgrade JakAttak   | 10/30/03
Agreed. dicktaurus@...   | 10/30/03
It's OS X 10.3 dscherf   | 10/30/03
You must be confused Bitty.... Rick_K   | 10/29/03
No confusion here voska   | 10/30/03
You are pretty confused too AxleMunshine   | 10/30/03
Windows NT 4.0 dscherf   | 10/30/03
Huh, $199 for a bunch of new bugs Len Rooney   | 10/29/03
Bitty, a legend in his own mind. NoB$   | 11/01/03
Jaguar Upgade MacGeek2121   | 11/03/03
******* @ STAKE!!! JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
Amen pschroeder@...   | 10/29/03
Gunfights Require Ammunition Harry Bardal   | 10/29/03
debating for the privilege of paying for a security patch? JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
Language Harry Bardal   | 10/29/03
For those with double digit I.Q.s Rick_K   | 10/29/03
Unlike windows xp, which is a bug patch of NT sackbut   | 10/30/03
Congratulations Rick... toadlife   | 11/02/03
Joe pschroeder@...   | 10/29/03
Thats all im really tryin to say. JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
Completely missing the point pschroeder@...   | 10/29/03
Nothing @ Stake Harry Bardal   | 10/29/03
I am glad your happy. JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
I'm Sorry You're Not Harry Bardal   | 10/29/03
hmmm JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
re: hmmm bgoss@...   | 10/30/03
If you're not a Mac user... dscherf   | 10/30/03
It figures Stewart Cannon   | 10/29/03
FUD Works! ndelc   | 10/29/03
FUD or blowing their own horn? Fred Fredrickson   | 10/29/03
Not the same Dave ndelc   | 10/29/03
But same @Stake (NT) Fred Fredrickson   | 10/29/03
yes the new talkback does suck... JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
RE: ZDNet Doesn't Work! JakAttak   | 10/30/03
What does the title mean? ndelc   | 10/29/03
Install Windows XP Professional on X86 hardware usapride   | 10/29/03
Amazing ndelc   | 10/29/03
yea his opinion is wrong! JoeMama_z   | 10/29/03
Can I get some of that... Rick_K   | 10/29/03
What else have you used? NoB$   | 11/01/03
"people born in prison" pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
@Stake is..... Rick_K   | 10/29/03
Dear @Stake, Len Rooney   | 10/29/03
This is very boring (new posting system) usapride   | 10/29/03
Not only boring, but... BitTwiddler   | 10/30/03
Article Renaming? BitTwiddler   | 10/30/03
Huh? ndelc   | 10/30/03
Ok, throw me a fricken' bone here... BitTwiddler   | 10/31/03
then don't buy them ndelc   | 10/31/03
imagine pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
Hmmm dscherf   | 11/01/03
? pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
Prefers to pay much more for virusware. NoB$   | 11/01/03
oki dokie JoeMama_z   | 11/02/03
re: pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
It's not a point upgrade Rick_K   | 10/30/03
ZDnet doesnt understand its terminology? doh123   | 10/30/03
Spinsters in full swing as usual. vdraken   | 10/30/03
Apple could stop it.... default user_z   | 10/30/03
Looks who's spinning the BS Rick_K   | 10/30/03
Questions V-Train   | 10/30/03
@Stake issued this story for it's master. Rick_K   | 10/30/03
Or maybe.. default user_z   | 10/31/03
Apple Security Updates seehunt   | 10/30/03
Where's the new headline? ndelc   | 10/31/03
Front Page now jonnormand   | 10/31/03
Eat crow much Bit, Ardian? tic swayback   | 10/31/03
Stuff a sock in it... pschroeder@...   | 10/31/03
As if... tic swayback   | 10/31/03
It's possible pschroeder@...   | 10/31/03
but highly unlikely tic swayback   | 10/31/03
maybe not pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
Fallacious reasoning dscherf   | 11/01/03
Sure, Peter, 'cept only M$ was ADJUDGED evil, and Apple has the good record dicktaurus@...   | 10/31/03
ridiculous pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
Being an M$ shill really is stressful, huh NoB$   | 11/01/03
NoB$? sad... pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
Go pete JoeMama_z   | 11/02/03
I like the phrase because that's what it is... dscherf   | 11/02/03
Jumping threads... pschroeder@...   | 11/02/03
Too bad you're so closed minded... dscherf   | 11/02/03
huh? pschroeder@...   | 11/02/03
one last thing pschroeder@...   | 11/02/03
Apple never did say otherwise dscherf   | 10/31/03
nor did they say they would pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
JAGUAR != PANTHER dscherf   | 11/01/03
re: pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
Not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing dscherf   | 11/01/03
Not sure what you and I are disagreeing on... pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
Fallacious reasoning dscherf   | 11/02/03
you like that phrase, don't you? pschroeder@...   | 11/02/03
Now we know what trolls eat dscherf   | 10/31/03
Nothing to see here, there are never Apple issues FilledOut   | 10/31/03
Paying for a patch NoB$   | 11/01/03
Being an ignorant rube... pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
The shoe fits on both feet dscherf   | 11/01/03
Which is good... pschroeder@...   | 11/01/03
Well, you know.... BitTwiddler   | 11/01/03
(NT) Exactly right pschroeder@...   | 11/02/03
Be glad they don't charge what..... Rick_K   | 11/04/03
I would've expected nothing less from Apple jovi1947   | 11/02/03

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