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By Paul Festa
Posted on ZDNet News: Feb 10, 2004 1:00:00 AM

Ten months after landing in a fierce trademark dispute with a fellow open-source organization, the Mozilla Foundation has changed the name of its standalone browser from Firebird to Firefox.

The new browser--meant to be a streamlined version of the present Mozilla browser, which has been criticized because of its size--has gone through three names before even reaching Version 1.0.


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The original name "Phoenix" encountered trademark difficulties, so Mozilla renamed it "Firebird," sometimes considered a synonym for the self-immolating, immortal bird.

Then Mozilla got an earful from the Firebird relational database open-source development project. That group was concerned that confusion would result from the name, even though one applied to a database and the other a browser.

Mozilla at first stonewalled but later yielded under pressure from the older Firebird's development community.

But even the concession Mozilla made at that point--to refer to the browser strictly as "Mozilla Firebird"--didn't resolve the issue. A subsequent decision to adopt the name "Firefox" also ran into trouble when Mozilla found that a U.K. company held the rights to that trademark. Some months passed before Mozilla could reach an agreement to use the mark in the United Kingdom. A Mozilla representative declined to disclose the company or the terms of that agreement.

With Firefox, Mozilla hopes to put its trademark difficulties behind it.

"We've learned a lot about choosing names in the past year (more than we would have liked to)," the foundation wrote in an online posting about the name change. "We have been very careful in researching the name to ensure that we will not have any problems down the road. We have begun the process of registering our new trademark with the U.S. Patent and Trademark office."

With the U.K. situation resolved, Mozilla's latest name choice looks unlikely to invite trademark challenges. Firefox.com is occupied by a work of fiction, in progress, called "The Quailish Saga." Other endeavors using the name include a fireworks manufacturer and a vehicular fire-prevention technology provider.

A firefox is another name for the red panda, a red-furred, endangered mammal related to the giant panda and found in the Himalayas, China and Myanmar.

The existing Firebird open-source project lauded Mozilla on the name change.

"It's all come out very happily," said Ann Harrison, chief technology officer at Firebird organizer IBPhoenix (no relationship to Phoenix Technologies, which presented the initial trademark challenge to Mozilla). "They agreed last fall that they were going to change the name, and it took a little longer than anyone hoped. But they postponed the release (until the U.K. trademark agreement was reached), which was just spectacular of them, and we are thrilled."

In addition to announcing the name change, Mozilla released version 0.8 of the software, calling it a milestone toward the foundation's first end user-oriented release. Before being spun off by America Online parent Time Warner as the Mozilla Foundation, Mozilla considered itself a technology group that was used by AOL's Netcape Communications unit to create user-friendly products.

New to the release are features including a download manager, bookmark improvements, and enhancements to Mozilla "extensions," small applets that do things such as remove ad banners, check spelling and search popular sites.

Mozilla said few people are buying its newly added telephone support option, but the company contended that the service is worth maintaining to bolster corporate confidence in the browser. Mozilla also plans to launch a new e-mail-based support service.

Firefox 1.0 should be finished by the end of the first half of the year, along with its companion e-mail client, called Thunderbird.

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it may be really hard
The English langueage has some 800,000 words. Add to that words from foreign language (FireFox is an international effort after all) and you'll understand why the task may be hard.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: z_darius@... Posted on: 02/12/04 You are currently: Logged In | Log out
Mozilla and OpenOffice JWatson77   | 02/09/04
Re: Mozilla and OO grifs71@...   | 02/09/04
If Mozilla is so bad... B.O.F.H.   | 02/09/04
I'll take a stab at it. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen   | 02/09/04
They're not! ShadeTree   | 02/10/04
re: They're not! B.O.F.H.   | 02/10/04
"The browser does not work with a lot of websites" IT_User   | 02/09/04
I bet I know. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen   | 02/09/04
LOL Suicida|   | 02/09/04
grrrrr leiam   | 02/09/04
requirements leiam   | 02/09/04
Dont forget Suicida|   | 02/09/04
Troll... NWOR doe_z   | 02/09/04
Why bother with a reply? skeptic tank   | 02/09/04
Message has been deleted. dicktaurus@...   | 02/09/04
Tell you what, then... troutmaskreplica   | 02/09/04
Oh, what... Yen_z   | 02/09/04
Oh, ye... IT_User   | 02/10/04
DARN that Google. Yen_z   | 02/10/04
Hmm... Suicida|   | 02/09/04
BS Suicida|   | 02/09/04
FUD CobraA1   | 02/10/04
Obviously you haven't used Mozzila then voska   | 02/10/04
You're absolutely right IT_User   | 02/09/04
Its called 'respect' something the Free Software people do NOT have grifs71@...   | 02/09/04
Beg pardon? John L. Ries   | 02/09/04
Re: pardon grifs71@...   | 02/09/04
I said no such thing John L. Ries   | 02/09/04
might even be good leiam   | 02/09/04
just the same in-DUH-vidual   | 02/09/04
O_o leiam   | 02/09/04
Yeah such junk nucrash   | 02/09/04
Re: NO one uses it, so how could there be problems grifs71@...   | 02/09/04
umm... leiam   | 02/09/04
How many users? The-Bytemaster   | 02/10/04
55% of Websites hits are from Mozzilla voska   | 02/10/04
55% of what website hits? IT_User   | 02/10/04
It is called michael-t   | 02/09/04
You're one to talk. Immanuel Tranz-Mischen   | 02/09/04
Go away troller... troutmaskreplica   | 02/09/04
Stop whining; go see your mommy, twerp.(NT) dicktaurus@...   | 02/09/04
Self description eh? souther_ (nt) Update victim   | 02/10/04
Firefox 0.8 Joe Blow_z   | 02/09/04
What??? Fred Fredrickson   | 02/09/04
you can leiam   | 02/09/04
What browser did you download -- Not Firefox! The-Bytemaster   | 02/10/04
Whatever you have, it's defnitely not Firefox! CobraA1   | 02/10/04
I think it must be a bug on the 1st run after installation gath   | 02/10/04
that's odd CobraA1   | 02/10/04
I think you broke IE and prong@...   | 02/10/04
Message has been deleted. grifs71@...   | 02/09/04
You run Linux? OhMyGosh   | 02/09/04
Re: linux grifs71@...   | 02/09/04
What are you talking about copygod74   | 02/09/04
IE is the CORPORATE standard? IT_User   | 02/09/04
Yeah, you know... Immanuel Tranz-Mischen   | 02/09/04
IE isn't W3C compliant! CobraA1   | 02/10/04
The corporate standard for hackers tekace4   | 02/10/04
linux and mozilla Louis Ross Focke   | 02/10/04
basic buttons??? leiam   | 02/09/04
So Very True... in-DUH-vidual   | 02/09/04
uhhh leiam   | 02/09/04
Chill Dude in-DUH-vidual   | 02/09/04
Maturity michael-t   | 02/09/04
Firefox is back to basics tekace4   | 02/10/04
LOL CobraA1   | 02/10/04
Hey souther_pride ... MeadMkr   | 02/10/04
inform moderator instead Nullifidian   | 02/10/04
Well, this proves... BitTwiddler   | 02/10/04
He's flipped my bozo bit, too. can we ignore him? DanIelWalker_z   | 02/10/04
Firefox = Flaming terds JohnW_z   | 02/10/04
Perhaps you should get a child of 3 to help you then! B.O.F.H.   | 02/10/04
This will be a moot point next year John L. Ries   | 02/09/04
only if only... leiam   | 02/09/04
They should have called it "Nuclear Frog." Immanuel Tranz-Mischen   | 02/09/04
try writing a song leiam   | 02/09/04
thats close to... in-DUH-vidual   | 02/09/04
english leiam   | 02/09/04
all languages in-DUH-vidual   | 02/09/04
nah leiam   | 02/10/04
Clint Eastwood next in trademark dispute? chrichton99   | 02/09/04
Yeah, Martin Marvinski   | 02/09/04
No, but Craig Thomas might be. Fred Fredrickson   | 02/10/04
Just remember: "Think in Russian" DanIelWalker_z   | 02/10/04
Confusion. vdraken   | 02/10/04
Re: souther_pride Martin Marvinski   | 02/09/04
life of the party in-DUH-vidual   | 02/09/04
Unfortunately... BitTwiddler   | 02/10/04
Re: pics Suicida|   | 02/09/04
you should try leiam   | 02/10/04
Yeah, he's trolling ...... and firebird looks nice, but el1jones   | 02/10/04
I agree Mack DaNife   | 02/10/04
WOW bhanes@...   | 02/10/04
so... There are several princessangry   | 02/10/04
A typical junkware pa2004   | 02/10/04
Well, it works IT_User   | 02/10/04
Atypical junkware - indeed! Fred Fredrickson   | 02/10/04
well... leiam   | 02/10/04
As a matter of fact ... pa2004   | 02/10/04
no one can... leiam   | 02/10/04
Netscape or Mosaic? IT_User   | 02/10/04
IE has tabbed browsing?! el1jones   | 02/10/04
opera leiam   | 02/10/04
oh... Thanks(nt) el1jones   | 02/10/04
I installed it and it works voska   | 02/10/04
eating away at ms market share???? civilised   | 02/10/04
Hmmmmm. bhanes@...   | 02/10/04
mozilla probably best software i've ever used myxner   | 02/11/04
Why don't you try it first z_darius@...   | 02/12/04
Who actually needs this? vdraken   | 02/10/04
I have the same uncertainty IT_User   | 02/10/04
Its something new to try! Nullifidian   | 02/10/04
Browser only... nothing to get in the way. The-Bytemaster   | 02/10/04
Speed boxmonkey   | 02/10/04
putting off upgrading isn't always best leiam   | 02/11/04
Just moved another client from IE to Mozilla. Yen_z   | 02/10/04
A common trend Nullifidian   | 02/10/04
How hard can picking an original name be? SteveProgrammer   | 02/10/04
it may be really hard z_darius@...   | 02/12/04

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