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By David Becker, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Feb 11, 2004 8:20:00 PM

Novell is seeking to undermine the SCO Group's legal claim against IBM with evidence that allegedly shows SCO purchased limited rights to the Unix operating system.

In a letter sent to SCO on Friday, Novell lawyers argue that when Novell purchased Unix from AT&T, the agreement excluded the right to control "derivative works"--subsequent software based on Unix code. Those terms then govern the Unix assets SCO bought from Novell, according to the letter, which invalidates SCO's claims to control Unix-derived software distributed by IBM.


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SCO rattled the technology world last year when it sued IBM, claiming that the computing giant illegally incorporated into its Linux software source code from the Unix operating system, which SCO controls. The case has since ballooned into a far-ranging attack on Linux, attracting legal attention from Linux leader Red Hat and the ire of Linux supporters worldwide.

Novell joined the fray early on, contending SCO's purchase of Unix didn't include copyrights. SCO eventually responded by suing Novell for slander, saying Novell's allegedly false claims to controlling Unix have harmed SCO's business.

Friday's letter from Novell is aimed at the IBM case and cites a section from a 1985 AT&T customer newsletter as clarifying the company's intentions when it sold Unix to Novell. AT&T said it "claims no ownership in any portion of such a modification or derivative work that is not a part of a software product." It further said it sought to "assure licensees that AT&T will claim no ownership in the software that they developed--only the portion of the software developed by AT&T."

The letter demanded that SCO withdraw certain claims from its IBM suit as of 11 a.m. PST Wednesday. SCO declined.

"It is SCO's strongly held legal position that Novell has no rights to step in and change or alter the source code license agreements that SCO owns and holds with its Unix licensees," SCO said in a statement. "SCO has no intention of waiving any of its rights against Sequent or IBM. We will deal with Novell on all of these issues in court."

Novell also filed a motion Monday to dismiss SCO's slander suit, saying the company hasn't proven that Novell's claims are false. "Without conclusively establishing that it owns the Unix and UnixWare copyrights, SCO cannot show that Novell's statements to the contrary are false, and cannot prevail," according the filing.

The motion also claims SCO's suit fails to establish specific grounds for damages. "SCO's allegations are plainly insufficient," according to the filing. "They are precisely the type of general allegations of some speculative injury that the special damages pleading requirements for a slander of title action are meant to avoid."

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I wonder how much R&D funding could have
I wonder how much R&D funding could have been used out of meaningless court cases. Imagine if instead of spending millions of dollars screaming "I saw it first" in court, if they would go about th... (Read the rest)
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What a convoluted mess... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
I read the transfer documents including the amendments hipparchus   | 02/11/04
All in your point of view I guess. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
jury guido_z   | 02/11/04
All in your point of view? jjon2121   | 02/12/04
No Interpretation Here el1jones   | 02/12/04
This is what I mean. To me this is very clear.SCO DOESN'T OWN THE COPYRIGHT hipparchus   | 02/12/04
Why so long... Fred Fredrickson   | 02/11/04
oh??? guido_z   | 02/11/04
Would you expect anything else? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
court system guido_z   | 02/11/04
Not from their point of view. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
wrong... guido_z   | 02/11/04
Not really... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
he said she said... ryusen   | 02/11/04
Isn't that what you would expect though? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
SCO tactics guido_z   | 02/11/04
Never claimed I understand SCO... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
A gambit that backfired j.m.galvin   | 02/11/04
(NT) The house of cards is beginning to collapse under its own weight. Bit's_Conscience   | 02/11/04
No Fred Fredrickson   | 02/11/04
(NT) Good post. Bit's_Conscience   | 02/11/04
see, you can make sensible posts ryusen   | 02/11/04
Fair enough, but... Damon K   | 02/11/04
Actually, the odcuments in question... Damon K   | 02/11/04
Odcuments? Damon K   | 02/11/04
aThis is why many states require a letter of "intent". No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
Should be universal j.m.galvin   | 02/11/04
you can't do that! ryusen   | 02/11/04
And how horrible that would be, NOT! No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
Will this be on... BitTwiddler   | 02/12/04
SCO Strategy: Throw enough mud at the wall, some might stick MarcB_z   | 02/11/04
parachuted guido_z   | 02/11/04
They pulling right now. el1jones   | 02/12/04
My Take MG_z   | 02/11/04
moot, not mute tic swayback   | 02/11/04
But... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
That's OK, I've got too. ;-) Cardinal_Bill   | 02/11/04
Or "their", "there", "they're" j.m.galvin   | 02/11/04
Gotta love "its" and "it's" IT_User   | 02/11/04
Don't forget your and you're No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
then there is GHOTI spells fish Hanover Phist   | 02/12/04
Moot vs Mute (I know off the subject) MG_z   | 02/12/04
"Grammer"? Martin Marvinski   | 02/12/04
and mine dg mh   | 02/11/04
Do you really want to know? dscherf   | 02/11/04
It seems so simple... Fred Fredrickson   | 02/11/04
And you left out another biggie j.m.galvin   | 02/11/04
fun guido_z   | 02/11/04
Yes, that one too Fred Fredrickson   | 02/11/04
Not sure if you were joking... MG_z   | 02/12/04
This time next year, McBride and company will be in jail. DonnieBoy   | 02/11/04
Show us your facts. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
If you could show they profited from the stock and knew they couldn't win. DonnieBoy   | 02/11/04
Are you suggesting they are alone? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
Yes, there has to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt to put them in jail DonnieBoy   | 02/11/04
Now I understand their choice..... guido_z   | 02/11/04
Oops... guido_z   | 02/11/04
Re : JWatson77   | 02/12/04
Re : JWatson77   | 02/12/04
Do you think they knew... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
they should have guido_z   | 02/12/04
RE: Show us your facts MG_z   | 02/12/04
ummm... ryusen   | 02/11/04
Terrible mess Bill4   | 02/11/04
The courts should just toss out the suits and counter-suits - all of them. Bit's_Conscience   | 02/11/04
no case guido_z   | 02/11/04
Wed update: Novell drops IBM suit for SCO rgriffith64@...   | 02/11/04
This may be legal on paper MG_z   | 02/12/04
(NT) Could some 'lawyer type' translate the above letter. TIA Bit's_Conscience   | 02/11/04
sco vs novell guido_z   | 02/12/04
additional guido_z   | 02/12/04
A serious question, replies requested. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/11/04
easy guido_z   | 02/12/04
Even easier - Novell aren't in court to answer that question. Fred Fredrickson   | 02/12/04
Not so dscherf   | 02/12/04
the bucks guido_z   | 02/12/04
4.16(b) asset purchase agreement novell/old sco guido_z   | 02/12/04
UNIX Franchise dscherf   | 02/12/04
resellers and existing buisness rgriffith64@...   | 02/12/04
Maybe very little j.m.galvin   | 02/12/04
My answer MG_z   | 02/12/04
Thanks all, but I still question if it will hold water. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/12/04
UNIX(tm) value rgriffith64@...   | 02/12/04
SCO is right, IBM needs to settle tech3204@...   | 02/12/04
without settlement.... guido_z   | 02/12/04
SCO is right about what? rafe01   | 02/12/04
Hey "null"... MeadMkr   | 02/12/04
SCO will win in the end, IBM will pay for the code tech3204@...   | 02/12/04
what code was stolen from who? guido_z   | 02/12/04
Read this then MG_z   | 02/12/04
check this out jfalknor   | 02/12/04
Could there be another McBride motive? cliffatweber   | 02/12/04
Article MG_z   | 02/12/04
Thanks Bill Gates for This SCO Mess! brenthawkinsmd   | 02/12/04
Good grief man, buy yourself a clue! No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/12/04
Decision making guido_z   | 02/12/04
IF the SCO suit doesn't have any merit... ShadeTree   | 02/12/04
darl's motive guido_z   | 02/12/04
As the Software Turns crfroggy_z   | 02/12/04
I wonder how much R&D funding could have starcannon99022@...   | 05/05/08

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