Remarkable Craftmanship in Desing/Implementation michael-t | 06/14/04 |
 Now wait just a minute! Anton Philidor | 06/14/04 |
  I am not michael-t | 06/14/04 |
  Strongr Security Settings IT_Critic | 06/15/04 |
 Hey the fact is that MS always responds jimk_z | 06/15/04 |
  If you truly believe that ... Mike Rotch | 06/15/04 |
  Great michael-t | 06/15/04 |
 Missed deadline richhayes | 06/15/04 |
  By definition rock06r | 06/15/04 |
Surprise, surprise, MS bundled "new features" in with its patches oldskool | 06/14/04 |
 Security IT_Critic | 06/15/04 |
  Believe it or not, rock06r | 06/15/04 |
   No other company "sneaks" applications in with patches oldskool | 06/15/04 |
    And I see where you made your mistake. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
     dismissive statements can be confused as arrogant oldskool | 06/15/04 |
      Thanks for the Linux-centric view, but... rock06r | 06/15/04 |
      its a simple reality that bug fixes are not feature push opportunities oldskool | 06/15/04 |
      RE:Oldskool ShadeTree | 06/16/04 |
      Windows ISV, not MS competitors want Windows APIs opened up oldskool | 06/17/04 |
 Well, if your argument is that rock06r | 06/15/04 |
  Code PATCH, not a Feature Release mdailey | 06/15/04 |
   It's neither a code patch nor a feature release ... Ardian Daka | 06/15/04 |
    You're kidding, right? mdailey | 06/15/04 |
     As I said: there's no legal definition (NT) Ardian Daka | 06/15/04 |
      There is well understood industry interpretation though! oldskool | 06/15/04 |
     Then don't install the service pack voska | 06/15/04 |
      This is a non answer, customers want regression tested patches! oldskool | 06/15/04 |
    Legal restrictions? rapson | 06/15/04 |
   Software 101 Anton Philidor | 06/15/04 |
    Why argue against common sense voska | 06/15/04 |
     History 862.3 Sign-Up Sheet Anton Philidor | 06/15/04 |
      you are wrong .. the question is why do customers choose? oldskool | 06/15/04 |
      Why does Microsoft choose to... Anton Philidor | 06/15/04 |
      MS exploits its position as dominant vendor - nothing more! oldskool | 06/15/04 |
      Just business Anton Philidor | 06/15/04 |
      Add to above Anton Philidor | 06/15/04 |
      re-read the thread ... you said MS-evil, not me! oldskool | 06/15/04 |
     Speak for yourself... dj_45_cal | 06/15/04 |
     Spoken like someone who doesn't really use a computer rdlink | 06/16/04 |
  Unwanted features tic swayback | 06/15/04 |
   So why not... No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
    Stop whining about all the whining... tic swayback | 06/15/04 |
    So the users who want to use a "slimmer Windows" don't count? oldskool | 06/15/04 |
     The majority of users.... ShadeTree | 06/15/04 |
      How dare you use common sense in the talkbacks! No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      your in denial, but that's your issue! oldskool | 06/15/04 |
      RE: oldskool ShadeTree | 06/16/04 |
      You can't please this crowd, "Good Post". Gorgonn | 07/12/04 |
     Sorry, but you are talking about open source users, not MS users. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      i just polled 1000 innocent bystanders! oldskool | 06/15/04 |
      985 asked, "What's an operating system?" (NT) Anton Philidor | 06/15/04 |
      If users don't know what an OS is, then they arn't CHOOSING Windows! oldskool | 06/17/04 |
   "Hidden" rather than "new" are the problem... MacCanuck | 06/15/04 |
    So what is *YOUR* problem.. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
     So AXE, I can assume you don't work in Customer Service, right? oldskool | 06/15/04 |
      Sure I do, I give good advice too. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
     Thanks for the advice... MacCanuck | 06/15/04 |
   Everybody complains about product activation..... ShadeTree | 06/15/04 |
    how about the 30-100 Billion in lost productivity last year? oldskool | 06/15/04 |
     Ah, the "cost" myth. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
    You asked, so here are some examples tic swayback | 06/15/04 |
     Nice try ShadeTree | 06/16/04 |
  Funny thing, I like Pong and Space Invaders voska | 06/15/04 |
  listen up ... people want a quality OS not an OS and 10 second rate apps oldskool | 06/15/04 |
   So what is stopping you? No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
    I'll stick to using Windows as long as the internet connection is inactive oldskool | 06/15/04 |
   So once again we have.... ShadeTree | 06/16/04 |
    wan't me who decided not to allow Windows without bundled apps oldskool | 06/17/04 |
 Depends Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
  12XP is a much smaller segment of the market than sales numbers suggest! oldskool | 06/15/04 |
Does this service back still block Windows update? whisperycat | 06/15/04 |
 Ignorance reveiled Ardian Daka | 06/15/04 |
  damned if you do and damned if you dont.... JoeMama_z | 06/15/04 |
Don't you just love all the bashing.... ShadeTree | 06/15/04 |
 What else do you expect from the unthinking? No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
  What else do YOU expect? Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
   DId they use a gun? No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
    No, and I don't use Linux at home Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
     Sounds like you have a smart boss. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
     Title should have been "I DO use Linux at home " Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
     So your real complaint is that... No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      Who said he wasn't letting me switch? Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
     You did silly... No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
     Read on Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
      Huh? Why not? No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      But what if... Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
  I guess it was too much.... ShadeTree | 06/15/04 |
   On the bright side, they make open source look horrible. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
    Don't confuse the "community" with the zealots. Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
     Impossible to tell the difference. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      The difference between Perens and the bashers Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
      You haven't read enough of Perens writings then. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      If it bothers you that much, try reading more Torvalds and less Perens Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
    You are generalizing too much toadlife | 06/15/04 |
     I can't tell. Just read the posts. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      Try someplace else besides ZDNet toadlife | 06/15/04 |
     Stallman's Minions Anton Philidor | 06/15/04 |
      (NT)Huh? toadlife | 06/15/04 |
  Hee hee! tic swayback | 06/15/04 |
  Now thats great coming from you after.. Iain_Peters | 06/16/04 |
 Question tic swayback | 06/15/04 |
  The EULA is basically the same as it has been ShadeTree | 06/15/04 |
   Thanks tic swayback | 06/15/04 |
I have a question... DarbyOhara | 06/15/04 |
 SP2 will update a base install of XP ShadeTree | 06/15/04 |
Little known Bill Gates history tells all ! wwwsupport | 06/15/04 |
 Indded, he became the richest man in the US. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
  Sad commentary... MacCanuck | 06/15/04 |
   MS does deserve credit for making software a commodity Michael Kelly | 06/15/04 |
    A commodity means exchangable functionality .. MS fights that! oldskool | 06/15/04 |
     That is one opinion, nothing more. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      So you are a decision maker at MS then .... ? oldskool | 06/15/04 |
      Now your being obtuse. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
   My, what a cute little rant. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
    Facts is facts Bit... or is that you Bill? MacCanuck | 06/15/04 |
     If all else fails, insult the other person. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      That's your MO... MacCanuck | 06/15/04 |
  stick to the facts ... it works oldskool | 06/15/04 |
   Revised history??? No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
    care to rebutt my statements rather than switch them? oldskool | 06/15/04 |
     I sure will! No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
  Need back up to your claim Don. bgoss@... | 06/15/04 |
   Judge Jackson was a complete idiot? You may be right. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
    yeah, we got your argument ... they bought Windows & got a free PC oldskool | 06/15/04 |
 DOS was Bill Gates' biggest gamble, bigger than Windows! oldskool | 06/15/04 |
 Speaking of Big Blue... dj_45_cal | 06/15/04 |
 Also... tgrady | 06/17/04 |
What is the value of this service pack ambraun@... | 06/15/04 |
 why is an adware blocker required to fix an OS bug? oldskool | 06/15/04 |
  Why did Samba need so many patchs? No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
   your really not going to defend yourself on patch counts are you? oldskool | 06/15/04 |
   Are you really this clueless about the SMB protocol and SaMBa? B.O.F.H. | 06/15/04 |
   A patch is a patch is a patch. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
    Huh? bgoss@... | 06/15/04 |
     Here you go, just for you. No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
      2 seperate and unrelated issues? B.O.F.H. | 06/15/04 |
 If you want security and reliability wwwsupport | 06/16/04 |
Oh poor Microsoft, we feel for you, it'll be all right again. Spin_Masterz | 06/15/04 |
 Uh huh, $57 Billion in th ebank "poor". No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/04 |
  $57 Billion Dirty money, that is. Spin_Masterz | 06/15/04 |
  doesn't $57B make a company a take over target? oldskool | 06/15/04 |
  Poor as in "lacking morals and ethics"... MacCanuck | 06/16/04 |
Why put up with MS Windows? zahmadi | 06/16/04 |
 I highly doubt that - and G4 is a dog zeusfuse | 06/16/04 |
 You do realize the flaw in this logic right? DigitalKid | 06/16/04 |
 Don't be so quick to blame Windows for your troubles DesigningKnight | 06/17/04 |
What ever happened to............... jb123 | 06/16/04 |