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By Stephen Shankland, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Dec 2, 2004 10:22:00 PM

Sun Microsystems has quietly begun seeking official open-source status for a new software license that likely will be used to govern its Solaris operating system.

But the license may inhibit cross-pollination between Solaris and Linux--a sacrifice Sun appears willing to make in its effort to attract developers and revitalize its version of Unix.

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What's new:
Sidestepping existing open-source licenses, such as the GPL that governs the heart of Linux, Sun has proposed a new type of license that could cover its open-source release of Solaris.

Bottom line:
Sun hopes an open-source Solaris will attract developers and revitalize the OS. But the proposed license could hamper cross-pollination between Solaris and Linux and, as one commentator has it, add to a list of licenses that create "lots of little lumps of software that can't be combined." Sun, however, calls its license "less burdensome" and seems ready to sacrifice any benefits of Linux intermingling.

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On Wednesday evening, CNET News.com has learned, Sun submitted a description of its Common Development and Distribution License, or CDDL, to the Open Source Initiative. The nonprofit group reviews licenses and bestows official open-source status on those that meet the Open Source Definition requirements.

The CDDL lets programmers see, change and distribute source code for any programming project it governs. Unlike some open-source licenses, it requires that modifications be shared as open-source software.

Sun hopes its open-source move will attract developers to Solaris and reinvigorate the operating system. Solaris waned in popularity with the Internet bubble burst and with the rise of Linux, which works better on widely used servers based on x86 processors such as Intel's Xeon.

But if Sun chooses to release Solaris under the CDDL--and it hasn't committed to doing so--the choice likely will prevent direct cross-pollination between the Unix variant and its prime competitor, Linux. That sharing is one of the prime advantages of the open-source philosophy; making Solaris open-source raised the possibility that it could benefit from Linux features such as widespread hardware support, and Linux could gain from Solaris features such as multiprocessor abilities.

Sun's CDDL description addressed the difficulties of intermingling software covered by the CDDL with software covered by the General Public License, or GPL--the license that governs Linux.

"The CDDL is not expected to be compatible with the GPL, since it contains requirements that are not in the GPL," Claire Giordano of Sun's CDDL team said in its submission. "Thus, it is likely that files released under the CDDL will not be able to be combined with files released under the GPL to create a larger program."

Open Source Initiative President Eric Raymond declined to comment yet on whether the license meets those criteria. But if the Open Source Initiative approves the license, the CDDL will join a list that already includes dozens of licenses.

This proliferation of open-source licenses is a problem, said Larry Rosen, an intellectual-property attorney who has advised OSI and who wrote "Open Source Licensing: Software Freedom and Intellectual Property Law."

"What we end with up is...lots of little lumps of software that can't be combined," Rosen said in an interview. "It is, in fact, a problem creating a commons of software if every company has its own commons."

Sun wouldn't comment on whether Solaris 10 will be covered by the CDDL. "We're not drawing linkage between that and any of Sun's products," spokesman Russ Castronovo said.

However, executives have said Sun will seek the blessing of the Open Source Initiative for the license, and the clock is ticking. Sun had wanted to make Solaris open-source by the end of 2004, though the company this month gave itself scheduling leeway until Jan. 17.

Russell Nelson, the OSI vice president who coordinates license approvals, said the next step in deciding whether to bestow that blessing is to discuss the license on OSI's mailing list. "After the list is happy with it, which may be a single-pass process or which may require revisions, I write it up with whatever other licenses are pending and submit it to the board for approval," he said.

In its description, Sun said it tried to find an existing open-source license but "reluctantly" drafted its own when none of the others met its needs. However, Sun didn't start from scratch: The CDDL is a variant of the Mozilla Public License 1.1, the license that governs the Web browser project that helped bring the open-source movement to prominence in 1998.

Licenses can be filled with obtuse legal jargon, and at 2,744 words long, the CDDL isn't a light read for programmers thinking of throwing their hat into the ring.

Sun, though, believes its license is an improvement over existing open-source licenses: "We wished to create a license that was simpler, less burdensome for contributors, clear and consistent in the use of terms and language, and that was as reusable and general as possible," Sun said in a description of the license.

However, one significant figure in the open-source licensing realm received the license coolly: Mitchell Baker, an attorney and the author of the Mozilla Public License.

Part of Sun's agenda has been to have its license replace the MPL, Baker said in a Thursday posting to a mailing list on the Open Source Initiative's Web site. "I've looked at this license and think there are some ways that it simplifies things, but there may also be such other issues with this language that may come up in use. Why the big rush?" Baker asked.

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Toss this to the wind...
You'll probably never have the opportunity to read this response Cobra, but neither will I have the opportunity to read a response to this one, should you write one. Let's cover your biggest misstatem... (Read the rest)
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Well duh? Did anyone think Sun was going to hand No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/02/04
Does it matter? IT_User   | 12/02/04
Sun Hardware htotten   | 12/02/04
Sounds sort of like... IT_User   | 12/02/04
Sun hardware doesn't need to run Solaris balsover   | 12/03/04
Toss MS in and your right. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/02/04
Face it: M$ has nowhere to go but down! Jeff Spicoli   | 12/02/04
Jeff, I am being honest here, you don't really believe that do you? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
Jeff is correct! djc1309@...   | 12/04/04
Nothing factual in your post. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/04/04
You are a die hard aren't you? djc1309@...   | 12/04/04
That makes me giggle. John Le'Brecage   | 12/02/04
Never suggested anything else. Are you concerned? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/02/04
Don't get in a tizzy. He's just marveling at your shillhood. Jeff Spicoli   | 12/02/04
sigh, You still have learned nothing. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
Concern and giggling are antithetical... John Le'Brecage   | 12/02/04
So is No_Ax becoming Mike Cox shallow_diver   | 12/03/04
You must be new... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
Is that so No Ax? ken47b@...   | 12/03/04
Yes it is true. Learn to pay attention. (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
Re: That makes me giggle. richdave   | 12/04/04
And your point is??? AmusedAtItAll   | 12/02/04
Booyah! Jeff Spicoli   | 12/03/04
Yes! Good move Sun! Best for Linux. John Le'Brecage   | 12/02/04
You hit the nail right on the noggin Jeff Spicoli   | 12/02/04
An excellent point John. (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
How is this a good move for Sun? Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Anton, you always ask the tough questions. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
New sales outside the US would be a goal. Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Sorry, I'm not privy to Sun's plans. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
Who is? Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Is that in fact true? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
A good reason NOT to open source Solaris. Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
You just identified the big *IF*. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
Just a thought here voska   | 12/03/04
May be a nuanced plan is afoot? quietLee   | 12/03/04
Too subtle to succeed. Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Sun's self-interest. John Le'Brecage   | 12/03/04
I don't really like the GPL anyways CobraA1   | 12/02/04
But hey... Jeff Spicoli   | 12/02/04
Open Source isn't always better, though CobraA1   | 12/03/04
You can link the two. There are exceptions. John Le'Brecage   | 12/02/04
John, you point out something important... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
A point in support. Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Correct, and the FUD is a very real thing. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
What rubbish!! Jiim_z   | 12/05/04
Not always an option CobraA1   | 12/03/04
Toss this to the wind... John Le'Brecage   | 12/05/04
Clarify what you mean. AmusedAtItAll   | 12/02/04
heh, we keep forgetting section 2b! CobraA1   | 12/03/04
No surprises here ... George Mitchell   | 12/02/04
Does Sun have the right Roger Ramjet   | 12/03/04
BSD is not relavant here ... mwagner@...  ZDNet | 12/03/04
Good move for Sun ... mwagner@...  ZDNet | 12/03/04
What is Sun's goal? Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Sun's goal is to ... mwagner@...  ZDNet | 12/03/04
Does "complete user control of the code"... Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
I think it does voska   | 12/03/04
Is "as easy as Linux..." a reason to buy Solaris? Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
If it allows interop with Windows it does. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
Another good point voska   | 12/03/04
Won't take that long, I'll say a year from now. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
Seem to me you pointed out the Bunk factor voska   | 12/03/04
Linus ix Unix, too. lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
That's why there are only two "real" Linuxes... Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Depth limit? lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
Two Linuxes? lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
Yes, depth goes beyond ZDNet's limit. Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Two Linuxes for commercial use, yes. Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
You do realize that Windows is POSIX compliant too right? voska   | 12/03/04
Mixed anticipations. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
Sun: "We'll damage ourselves in hopes"... Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Ah, but if Sun can... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/03/04
IBM and Linux lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
What damage? lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
All pain, no gain. Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Shares in Solaris? lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
Never said shares in Solaris. Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Yes to both! lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
If Sun is just chasing a buzzword... Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Increased sales is increased sales... lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
If being incompetent were only illegal... Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
Oh please! lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
What have they done lately? Anton Philidor   | 12/03/04
"Too expensive" is too old. lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
Is Sun part of a plot to kill Linux? Flash00   | 12/03/04
It is a good move for Sun kokuryu   | 12/03/04
Witness The Second Coming Of The Balkanization Of Unix lbattis@...   | 12/03/04
But there is really nothing new here ... George Mitchell   | 12/03/04
A few observations lycanthrope1   | 12/03/04
Trying to salvage a marginalized OS mwiley_z   | 12/03/04
Too little, too late I suspect! Jiim_z   | 12/05/04
good move for Solaris segurajohn@...   | 12/03/04
I hate using Solaris. can open-source change that? gorbehnare   | 12/04/04
I think not. Linux is here to stay and grow! flavio.becker   | 12/04/04

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