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By Ingrid Marson, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Sep 6, 2005 12:07:00 PM

The city of Munich will not start its migration to Linux on the desktop until 2006, a year later than planned and three years since it decided to go with the open-source operating system.

The migration of 14,000 desktops from Windows NT 4.0 to Linux and Microsoft Office 97 and 2000 to OpenOffice.org was originally planned to start in 2005, but the schedule has slipped, Peter Hofmann, the project leader of the migration, said Monday.

Hofmann said that the first department to migrate to Linux and OpenOffice.org will be that of the Lord Mayor. This migration is due to happen in the middle of 2006, although not all of the department's 250 computers will be migrated straight away.

One of the reasons for the delay in the migration start date is the need for an additional pilot phase, which will run in the first half of 2006. "It became clear later in the planning phase that a pilot was more important than we first thought and should last longer," Hofmann said.

The migration team plans to set up pilot PCs running Linux and OpenOffice.org in every department. Once the pilot is completed, departments will be migrated to open-source software in either one or two steps, according to Hofmann.

"Some departments will start with OpenOffice on Windows, others will start with OpenOffice on Linux," Hofmann said. "It depends on their infrastructure, for example, if a department has a small number of simple (Office) macros and templates, but a large number of complex applications, it is easier to do OpenOffice on Windows first."

Employees at the city administration have had a mixed response to the news that Munich is migrating to Linux, according to Hofmann. "Some (employees) are anxious that nothing will work (once we migrate) and others are enthusiastic," he said.

Munich is not the only European city migrating to Linux on the desktop. In July, the Austrian city of Vienna kicked off its migration to open-source software on the desktop, and the Norwegian city of Bergen also plans to migrate.

Ingrid Marson of ZDNet UK reported from London.

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Unwanted disruption(?) Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
No Tim Patterson   | 09/06/05
What you mean is jorwell   | 09/06/05
Try again Tim Patterson   | 09/06/05
Maybe they still are jorwell   | 09/06/05
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No System Crash-man osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Linux did have its chance. Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
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No, you are wrong. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
I don't have a problem skeptic tank   | 09/06/05
postponed frequently? jtsdata@...   | 09/10/05
It takes time to unwind the hairball, but they will do it. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
A one city ecosystem? Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
May well be true jorwell   | 09/06/05
Novell bought SuSE. Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
yes, and... doh123   | 09/06/05
Dead Wrong yyuko@...   | 09/06/05
Good. Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
14,000 computers in one city is not chicken feed DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Munich is more an example than a bulwark Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
You guys are barking up the wrong tree! IT_User   | 09/06/05
German implementation georgep_z   | 09/06/05
You are misinformed! ShadeTree   | 09/06/05
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I am coming round to the idea jorwell   | 09/07/05
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A one car ecosystem? jtsdata@...   | 09/10/05
The zealots will be busy today! Jay Cash   | 09/06/05
No religion here, just a careful change over. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Yes, you did post. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
One so far Jay Cash   | 09/06/05
No, I'm second, you were the first. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
I only USE Microsoft Jay Cash   | 09/06/05
YAY! Loverock Davidson   | 09/06/05
Locked and Loaded! osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Oh My GOD! Real World   | 09/06/05
My Thinking Exactly Whyaylooh   | 09/06/05
Whoops! My Bad. Whyaylooh   | 09/06/05
This is big news any way you slice it. We are all watching. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
My thoughts exactly thetargos   | 09/06/05
They'll take their time and do it right. The Windows hairball is a problem DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Why is it a different story jorwell   | 09/06/05
Yes, Windows is the hairball, and getting worse all the time. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
But Linux is monolithic too jorwell   | 09/06/05
We are only talking the kernel here, the most basic part. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Okay I back off here jorwell   | 09/06/05
Actually there is less in the Windows kernel then ... ShadeTree   | 09/06/05
Less in the Windows kernel that the Linux kernel??? DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Donnie. LinuxHippie   | 09/06/05
Good. Can you tell all of us the differences? michael_t   | 09/06/05
RE: Michael_t ShadeTree   | 09/06/05
Another goofball disclosing the same old kernel FUD osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Nope, monilithic only refers to the kernel, not the complete OS. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
I love it DonnieBoy! NonZealot   | 09/06/05
RE: I love it DonnieBoy! nightshade0143   | 09/06/05
Linux = monolithic kernel, MS = monolithic OS. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
The office suite isn't monolithic? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
Quite true Michael Kelly   | 09/06/05
Well, with Microsoft, the office suite is monolithic. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Re: Well, with Microsoft, the office suite is monolithic. Michael Kelly   | 09/06/05
Can you let me know michael_t   | 09/06/05
That's funny nucrash   | 09/06/05
The market decided that modular monolithic is best. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Again you speak of that which you do not know John Zern   | 09/06/05
No matter what, do not question Donnieboy and expect an honest reply. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
And, what was your point?? If you have an argument, go for it. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Man, 2006 and 2006 working on Linux Boot_Agnostic   | 09/06/05
Its only a hairball to the stuanch windows hater jimk_z   | 09/07/05
Loses jobs for Munich jorwell   | 09/06/05
So you're saying.. Tim Patterson   | 09/06/05
Not at all jorwell   | 09/06/05
Extortion is OK specialk_z   | 09/06/05
Where did I say that? jorwell   | 09/06/05
When you exercized your free will that disagreed with theirs. osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Munich's Linux migration slips to 2006 Loverock Davidson   | 09/06/05
Troll zkiwi   | 09/06/05
250 machines is too much to handle? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
Meanwhile, in the real world IT_User   | 09/06/05
So... zkiwi   | 09/06/05
It's not the pilot program... brble   | 09/06/05
re: Munich's Linux migration slips to 2006 yyuko@...   | 09/06/05
My 2 cents. redtrain65   | 09/06/05
Snake Oil vs. the Real World No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
Ignorance? Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
Promices of pie in the sky. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
More like tradeoffs IT_User   | 09/06/05
All vendors promise Pie In the Sky voska   | 09/06/05
Absolutely agree No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
No kidding voska   | 09/06/05
So True John Zern   | 09/06/05
Munich govt was willing to pay more... Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
What losses would you have them cut? IT_User   | 09/06/05
No difference between migrating... Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
This is not easy, MS has been building this hairball for a long time. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Unfortunately... nucrash   | 09/06/05
Explain what you are talking about!!! No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
They want the documents formated in an open format. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Again I ask, are they that stupid? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
why though?? Monkey_MCSE   | 09/06/05
Same reason you have to download Acrobat Reader osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Oh you mean like a browser when Office is saved as HTML. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
They are smart, they only want one format. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
There comes a time when enough is enough voska   | 09/06/05
HTML works for me osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Perhaps they were tired of the upgrade mill. B.O.F.H.   | 09/06/05
Why did they NEED to upgrade? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
why buy a house instead of lease? maxo_z   | 09/06/05
Best reason I've seen voska   | 09/06/05
Perhaps you do not understand the Microsoft business model? B.O.F.H.   | 09/06/05
No answer BOFH? Yeah, I thought so... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
Sorry No_Ax, some of us have lives away from ZDNet talkbacks. B.O.F.H.   | 09/06/05
Nice try at changin gthe subject, but as ALWAYS you have no answer. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
You shoulc choose your words a little better! B.O.F.H.   | 09/06/05
And they will be locked in with Linux. osreinstall   | 09/06/05
A distribution of Linux. Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
Please lay down the crack pipe nucrash   | 09/06/05
As soon as you close the Meth lab! osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Only thing I can say about Microsoft is ... voska   | 09/06/05
You are right mostly. The leadership goes in cycles. osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Get off it Donnie, your beating a dead horse. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
Switching is very hard, costlly. They did it because of MS dirty tricks. DonnieBoy   | 09/06/05
Car Analogy! osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Why does any zealot do something? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
Donnie the all seeing all knowing John Zern   | 09/06/05
Want to know what I find odd? voska   | 09/06/05
Canadians are polite people... Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
Yup voska   | 09/06/05
Kiosks browsing in the fairgrounds? osreinstall   | 09/06/05
Have they completed the conversion? ShadeTree   | 09/08/05
First hand experience Point of View nucrash   | 09/06/05
Never give up hope or the "This is the year of Linux" No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
Release of Vista... Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
Linux will never be big here first voska   | 09/06/05
Don't see Mac next year nucrash   | 09/06/05
Why couldn't Mac on Intel... Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
Distro Level is nothing nucrash   | 09/06/05
Just doesn't look as promising. nucrash   | 09/06/05
Apple has been through this at least once... Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
Don't you find it funny that ... ShadeTree   | 09/06/05
Good move on the part of Munich ... George Mitchell   | 09/06/05
Linux on servers. Anton Philidor   | 09/06/05
Thats Possible John Zern   | 09/06/05
Success lies in ignoring the extremists! George Mitchell   | 09/06/05
Thank you. Anton Philidor   | 09/07/05
Next month they will be singing: osreinstall   | 09/06/05
going for that troll look eh? Monkey_MCSE   | 09/06/05
You bit on! osreinstall   | 09/06/05
simply pointed out Monkey_MCSE   | 09/06/05
It's how you do it. osreinstall   | 09/06/05
i sometimes wonder about people here. Monkey_MCSE   | 09/06/05
RE:Same reason you have to download Acrobat Reader Monkey_MCSE   | 09/06/05
You are manufacturing a problem osreinstall   | 09/06/05
i think we're perceiving each other in the wrong context... Monkey_MCSE   | 09/06/05
Price is not bad if you need it. osreinstall   | 09/06/05
It was May 28, 2003 when the news broke that ... ShadeTree   | 09/06/05
nice assumption, baseless, yet a nice one Monkey_MCSE   | 09/06/05
Is 2 to 3 years the bar they should be measured against. ShadeTree   | 09/06/05
Oh, I don't know, about about longhorn? nucrash   | 09/06/05
Surely you are not trying to compare the ... ShadeTree   | 09/06/05
I don't know about that nucrash   | 09/06/05
It took that long to figure out they needed a *pilot* program. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 09/06/05
They rebuilt Berlin in less time than this migration. osreinstall   | 09/06/05
When Linux is delayed John Zern   | 09/06/05
Where was Linux delayed" Richard Flude   | 09/06/05
I'm Glad! tystoy1   | 09/07/05