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By Tom Krazit
Posted on ZDNet News: May 31, 2006 11:00:00 AM

That new PC that's running slower than the old one it replaced might be weighed down with several applications destined to gather dust on the desktop.

PCs are becoming increasingly cluttered with preinstalled software--in some cases the traditional trial offers for Internet service providers like AOL and EarthLink, but also newer applications like spyware-blocking tools which, somewhat ironically, inundate users with pop-up windows advertising their services.

Complaints about the "crapware," as Geek Squad founder Robert Stephens put it, are prominent in discussion forums and blogs related to PCs. But last week's deal between Dell and Google to install Google software on new Dell PCs shows that more and more of the real estate on the PC is for sale to application vendors, as PC vendors continue to look for new sources of revenue to boost their margins.

Of course, this isn't a new problem, and there's no indication so far that Dell customers won't receive their Google software with open arms. For years, in fact, PC makers have been trying to get every extra dime they can by selling little pieces of the desktop not already controlled by Microsoft. Now the value of that real estate--which in Dell's case reaches around 37 million people a year--is soaring.

Big software and Internet companies, such as Google, are willing to pay for the privilege of appearing on those systems, said Roger Kay, an analyst with Endpoint Technologies Associates. Financial terms of the Dell-Google deal were not released, but companies across the technology world are increasingly recognizing that "the PC is an advertising vehicle that's sitting in front of their customers," Kay said.

For their part, PC makers say they carefully vet the programs chosen for inclusion on their systems. Hewlett-Packard, for example, provides several different dial-up options because it doesn't want to lock its customers into any one service, a company representative said. And Dell allows some of its high-end XPS customers to decline certain preinstalled software, according to a representative. Customers who want cheap PCs will probably have to endure the barrage of trial offers and pop-ups, but it's likely PC vendors will start to offer more choice in the matter to buyers of high-end machines such as Dell's XPS line, Kay said.

"Simplicity is elegant. The less stuff you have on a system, the more likely it is to run cleanly."
--Roger Kay, analyst, Endpoint Technologies Associates

The most persistent offenders seem to be icons for trial versions of applications or services, according to several PC support experts interviewed for this article. Almost all major Windows consumer PC companies, including Dell, HP and Gateway, give new PC users the opportunity to sign up for free limited-time access to dial-up services from the likes of AOL, EarthLink, PeoplePC or Netscape. Even if the full version of the program isn't installed, the trial versions can run in the background and tie up system resources that could be flowing to actively used applications.

Another source of frustration are system management consoles that some vendors ship with their PCs. Many of these "system update" programs essentially duplicate Microsoft's Windows Update service, according to Jon Helin, director of technical services at PlumChoice Online PC Services. And third-party software installations can also trigger the automatic download of applications that are supposed to help run a peripheral like a printer, but wind up sitting unused and hogging system resources, he said. PlumChoice estimates that 90 percent of the complaints its online PC technicians receive related to a slow-running PC can be fixed by deleting unneeded programs.

Corporate PC customers insist on determining exactly what software ships on their orders, and PC vendors increasingly allow small- and medium-size businesses to do the same. But consumers are left to fend for themselves, and some savvy PC users have become fed up with the situation. Many PC enthusiasts simply wipe the hard drive clean and reinstall a clean version of Windows as soon as they receive their PCs.

Of course, that's becoming harder to do as some PC vendors no longer include a full copy of Windows XP with their systems, said Samir Bhavnani, an analyst with Current Analysis. In many cases, customers are prompted after starting up their PC for the first time to burn their own recovery discs, which will include all the unwanted applications. Some vendors, such as Dell, charge $10 for a CD copy of Windows XP for new buyers.

Individual programs can be removed by going into the Add or Remove Programs function of Windows, or by ending processes in the Task Manager window, but fragments of these programs can remain in the Windows Registry and continue to adversely impact performance. A complete reinstall fixes the problem for good, but it can lead to a search for the drivers needed to make all the necessary software and devices work properly.

The Geek Squad, which provides PC support service over the phone, online or in Best Buy stores, has had to develop individual uninstall scripts for some persistent offenders, Stephens said. This is especially true for some antivirus programs, which can still cause problems when the trial version is uninstalled and a different antivirus program is installed, he said.

Customers who purchase PCs through Best Buy can take their systems to the Geek Squad counter and, for a fee, let the technicians go through every piece of software that comes on a new PC and make recommendations as to what should stay and what needs to go, Stephens said.

Added Kay: "Simplicity is elegant. The less stuff you have on a system, the more likely it is to run cleanly." But as software dealing with everything from spyware to Internet access continues to proliferate, so do the problems such software can create.

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Reinstall on Purchase jfp   | 05/31/06
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theres a nifty little tool... linuxoverwindows   | 06/01/06
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superbus named the pain alandee4   | 05/31/06
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What you are suggesting is criminal! ShadeTree   | 05/31/06
So? Or better put "The law is a blank" heh heh heh Laff   | 05/31/06
Wrong!! bka1959   | 05/31/06
Shady always shows up when somebody brings this up zmud   | 05/31/06
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A company can put anything it wants in a EULA zmud   | 05/31/06
I'm sorry I forgot the point zmud   | 05/31/06
actually he's not st!lborn   | 05/31/06
Just goes too show you can be Right and still very WRONG!!! Laff   | 05/31/06
Wrong baggins_z   | 05/31/06
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Actually he's not TokyoPete   | 06/07/06
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Not from what the Microsoft reps say voska   | 05/31/06
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If you happened to read the EULA you ... ShadeTree   | 05/31/06
You make a good point voska   | 05/31/06
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Still wrong... Followup Serpent77   | 05/31/06
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PS bka1959   | 05/31/06
PPS One Caveat... Wolfie2K3   | 05/31/06
Huh? Patrick Jones   | 05/31/06
Making copies of a neighbor or friends disk ... ShadeTree   | 05/31/06
That is correct voska   | 05/31/06
Voska....Perhaps butt does it really matter? Only if Laff   | 05/31/06
Ok.. Patrick Jones   | 05/31/06
Actually no it's not. Linux Advocate   | 05/31/06
The copying of aor borrowing a neighbors ... ShadeTree   | 05/31/06
Then if that is the case Linux Advocate   | 05/31/06
You do not own Linux either. ShadeTree   | 06/01/06
Sorry but I disagree Linux Advocate   | 06/01/06
Not illegal but still a problem voska   | 05/31/06
I hate to disagree, but... rmazzeo   | 06/09/06
knock-knock st!lborn   | 05/31/06
Crapware doc_cotton   | 05/31/06
It is that easy, even if its annoying stan@...   | 06/01/06
Trial? they are good for two things. st!lborn   | 05/31/06
Charge a fee for leaving trialware out? A.Typical Zork   | 05/31/06
or just don't install the ... st!lborn   | 05/31/06
However... superbus   | 05/31/06
actually, i agree with you:-0 st!lborn   | 05/31/06
You're underestimating the stupidity of the average end-user xgp2k@...   | 06/02/06
Just another example of ebrke   | 05/31/06
You can stop taking the crap right now. Henry Miller   | 05/31/06
Cloathe the emperor! superbus   | 05/31/06
no need to code... st!lborn   | 05/31/06
But what you have to understsnd John Zern   | 05/31/06
Big deal: "rpm --erase crapware-x.y.z-1" would fix that. Zogg   | 05/31/06
Business Class Vs Personal Class Ludovit   | 05/31/06
They know Enterprise superbus   | 05/31/06
what's adobe, where can you download it?lol st!lborn   | 05/31/06
busniness class jscozzari   | 06/07/06
Hidden costs of Windows Chad_z   | 05/31/06
REPENT OR... what, Linus will smite thee? superbus   | 05/31/06
ofcourse .. st!lborn   | 05/31/06
ROFLMAO!!! jheine   | 05/31/06
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dude ! st!lborn   | 05/31/06
Step away from the bash shell... GeoNorth   | 05/31/06
I have a copy of XP Pro at home Chad_z   | 05/31/06
Depends on the version voska   | 05/31/06
Sometimes XP wouldn't install... RicD_   | 05/31/06
not just onboard st!lborn   | 05/31/06
I must have got off lightly... GeoNorth   | 05/31/06
Changing your mobo and proc mustangj36@...   | 05/31/06
Why blame Microsoft? RocketEater   | 05/31/06
don't tell me..tell teh_noobs st!lborn   | 05/31/06
Intel graphic chips have never supported openGL zmud   | 05/31/06
opengl support jacec   | 05/31/06
LOL, using system memory zmud   | 05/31/06
actually they do st!lborn   | 05/31/06
Spelling must not be your forte quietLee   | 05/31/06
Simple Solution bka1959   | 05/31/06
this is news? sandbagger   | 05/31/06
Specific symptom of general malady RocketEater   | 05/31/06
Tell Google that it's a waste of money sordito   | 05/31/06
but how do you... st!lborn   | 05/31/06
Build your own PC sordito   | 05/31/06
Yep quietLee   | 05/31/06
Crapware does help keep pc prices down mustangj36@...   | 05/31/06
I Agree zmud   | 05/31/06
Which registry cleaner do you use? Anton Philidor   | 05/31/06
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jv16 Power Tools has separated the registry cleaner... Anton Philidor   | 05/31/06
Registry Cleaner? doc_cotton   | 05/31/06
De-Crappifier rward325pcm   | 05/31/06
Using a shotgun to kill ants Anton Philidor   | 05/31/06
*snorts* Work! John Le'Brecage   | 05/31/06
Slow day, John? Anton Philidor   | 05/31/06
IT works rchasse2002   | 06/01/06
Uninstalling Crapware rl.forbes@...   | 06/12/06
WOW! Tim Patterson   | 05/31/06
Last line.. byeats   | 06/06/06
Demand the original installation media ... JonathonDoe   | 05/31/06
Let me know when consumers stop buying itunes. HypnoToad   | 05/31/06
i believe it is called transcode.... st!lborn   | 05/31/06
ITunes doc_cotton   | 05/31/06
iTunes DRM belkorin   | 06/01/06
That what I did... c45207   | 05/31/06
holy carp you sheeple are stupid shraven   | 05/31/06
Only the "sheeple". Linux Advocate   | 05/31/06
Outside the box Boot_Agnostic   | 05/31/06
No, no rocket ship... Linux Advocate   | 05/31/06
EUKA mist42nz   | 05/31/06
Legal-ese rchasse2002   | 06/01/06
Crapware is always on any pc purchased RIAAsucks   | 05/31/06
Simple solution, although not for the masses Confused by religion   | 05/31/06
Oh come on! Shelendrea   | 05/31/06
You know in all my years in the buisness I have NEVER Laff   | 05/31/06
Use some of that coin... armandocanales@...   | 05/31/06
What coin? Laff   | 05/31/06
Don't load our PCs with trials. Just give us the install CDs. Mr. Roboto   | 05/31/06
No Install CDs alex@...   | 06/01/06
CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT RobertoSalazar   | 05/31/06
how about being responsible intead of suing dddd_z   | 05/31/06
Class Action jambo2   | 05/31/06
Rename USA to SUE jmcdzzz   | 06/12/06
Crapware and removing it without re-installing Kobashrer   | 05/31/06
Crapware and removing it without re-installing Kobashrer   | 05/31/06
My Inspiron B130 got faster after cleanup. johnsmith222   | 05/31/06
First thing I do with a new Dell .... johns_z   | 05/31/06
is tie it to a duck decoy and drop it in the lake.... quietLee   | 05/31/06
that is a great idea! Raven166   | 06/10/06
Nevermind Raven166   | 06/29/06
junk lmenningen   | 05/31/06
Crapware kasman1@...   | 05/31/06
Trial that expire are worst MISsupport   | 05/31/06
The Circus call Windows XP doc_cotton   | 05/31/06
Dell De-Crapifier twasserman1   | 05/31/06
Insist on a clean system dewilliams   | 05/31/06
All the more reason to build your own machine. jgmsys@...   | 05/31/06
Trial Software Bobby Joe Reed   | 05/31/06
I see it every day... ucsdirect@...   | 05/31/06
Not worth my time . . . mgilligan   | 05/31/06
Better yet... JDThompson   | 05/31/06
First......... raymarc001   | 05/31/06
If your stupid enough to Scrat   | 06/01/06
back to school?? OldMainframer   | 06/14/06
Trial Software bobisr23@...   | 06/01/06
Vendors PC rchasse2002   | 06/01/06
the total approach is wrong! There is the better solution!!! domik7   | 06/03/06
Unwanted Software raileena   | 06/12/06

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