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By Martin LaMonica, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Jun 26, 2006 1:39:00 PM

Microsoft has decided to initially use technology from its WinFS project in the SQL Server database, rather than Windows.

Quentin Clark, who runs the WinFS program management team, disclosed the company's plans in a blog posting on Friday. He said that the next version of SQL Server, code-named Katmai, will incorporate features from WinFS to store unstructured data and automate administration.

In 2003, Microsoft described WinFS as one of the "pillars" of Windows Vista, which is due early next year. The company then decided to pull that feature out of Vista, then known as Longhorn, while continuing to develop it.

The original goal of WinFS--a concept talked about at Microsoft for many years--was to provide a unified file system for all Windows applications. Instead of having a special file format for each application, such as Outlook mail, WinFS would serve all applications.

Microsoft has not precluded using WinFS in Windows but the decision to put portions of it in SQL Server means that WinFS will not be delivered as a separate component, Clark said.

"These changes do mean that we are not pursuing a separate delivery of WinFS, including the previously planned Beta 2 release. With most of our effort now working towards productizing mature aspects of the WinFS project into SQL (Server) and ADO.NET, we do not need to deliver a separate WinFS offering," Clark wrote in his blog.

In an interview earlier this month, the vice president of Microsoft's server and tools business, Bob Muglia, said that a second beta of WinFS was slated for the fall. Muglia added that WinFS could be used in Windows as well in Microsoft's Office products.

Comments posted to Clark's blog voiced disappointment with the latest twist in WinFS strategy.

"The bottom line is that WinFS was promoted as a Windows component that would enhance the file system and provide a new platform for data storage for Windows apps. And this is now dead. No amount of spin is going to cover that up," wrote one commenter.

Katmai, the successor to SQL Server 2005, is expected to be released in two or three years, Microsoft executives have said.

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Posted by: Boot_Agnostic Posted on: 06/28/06 You are currently: Logged In | Log out
Well, the village idiots can't make it work. Long on "brilliant" ideas, DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
Show me the Feature nucrash   | 06/26/06
This was just a lock-in ploy that they thought they could pull off. There DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
He Can't. John Zern   | 06/26/06
Come on, try to make an argument. If you think that WinFS was (and still DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
Oh Gee... I don't know.. Let's just say... nucrash   | 06/26/06
iSeries bportlock   | 06/26/06
Do you ever get tired of making useless rants? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
When MS does something stupid, we will continue to call them on it. We know DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
So yuou think trying to be innovative is stupid? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
Inovative is not spouting off how great of a product you will make, but DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
Wow. sounds like... John Zern   | 06/26/06
Novel is not perfect, but the OS they sell is head and shoulders above DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
Hero worship Yagotta B. Kidding   | 06/26/06
You of all people know better. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
Take MS to task??? Is praising every stupid thing they do taking them to DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
Changing the subject Yagotta B. Kidding   | 06/26/06
LMAO DemonX   | 06/26/06
And this is an advancement how? nucrash   | 06/26/06
forget about WinF$ Linux Geek   | 06/26/06
Rep has delivered the NDA... Mike Cox   | 06/26/06
I'm waiting for the season finally! olePigeon   | 06/26/06
man DemonX   | 06/26/06
More steady progress to ... nowhere ;-) michael_t   | 06/26/06
Beta 1 had been issued... Anton Philidor   | 06/26/06
Simply. NONE of the "Vista specific" features are there, except from the michael_t   | 06/26/06
Fancy graphics? dragosani   | 06/26/06
Who is laughing? bportlock   | 06/26/06
Their financial position is incontroversial, but this does not make them michael_t   | 06/26/06
The herd... bportlock   | 06/27/06
Apples to Boot_Agnostic   | 06/28/06
No one hits a homer every time. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
haha you're one to talk Monkey_MCSE   | 06/26/06
WMV is rich content. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
It is? Michael Kelly   | 06/26/06
You can build interactive content No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
i would love to see you provide a link Monkey_MCSE   | 06/26/06
Monkey guy... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
Typical No_Axe rants nomorems   | 06/26/06
read it...BZZZZT WRONG Monkey_MCSE   | 06/26/06
Interesting Michael Kelly   | 06/26/06
Don't know, I'm not much for surfing videos. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
Am I looking in the right place? Michael Kelly   | 06/26/06
Look for the SDK. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
I think I see where you're going now Michael Kelly   | 06/26/06
That's backwards Yagotta B. Kidding   | 06/26/06
And the way I read it Michael Kelly   | 06/26/06
yea but you gotta admit..... JoeMama_z   | 06/26/06
I think you misunderstand. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
that's a big mostly.... JoeMama_z   | 06/26/06
On that I agree. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
What's the rush? Yagotta B. Kidding   | 06/26/06
There's no rush to upgrade to Vista anyway Michael Kelly   | 06/26/06
Yes, and MS with billions in the bank, and the best paid programmers on the DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
Damage control? John L. Ries   | 06/26/06
Seriously, What are all the new Vista features? el1jones   | 06/26/06
System tools, and scheduler.... JoeMama_z   | 06/26/06
okay... good stuff... but el1jones   | 06/26/06
your mostly right.... JoeMama_z   | 06/26/06
Which all should be easily added to XP. Why Vista is needed? michael_t   | 06/26/06
well if it makes you happy.... JoeMama_z   | 06/26/06
Why will people have to re-purchase an SP4? Are you gonna to? michael_t   | 06/26/06
Michael.... JoeMama_z   | 06/26/06
Well to be fair, when they make new OSs... el1jones   | 06/26/06
Apple that kinda works SUSE it doesn't JoeMama_z   | 06/26/06
Ho ho ho ... incidentally, unlike your beloved piece of michael_t   | 06/26/06
wow..... JoeMama_z   | 06/26/06
I think the unification No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
There's a lot of Michael Kelly   | 06/26/06
and this could be just another PATCH to XP kernel. Why is Vista needed? michael_t   | 06/26/06
not a good business model Sgt. Pinback   | 06/26/06
Microsoft showed good judgement in waiting A.Typical Zork   | 06/26/06
Agree 100%. (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
Right, every stupid thing they do is good judgement!! DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
Still ranting uselessly? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 06/26/06
You still do not have an argument. Tell us why the fact that they can't DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
Your exact words? John Zern   | 06/26/06
Ok, let us hear your argument. State the problem that a Linux company had DonnieBoy   | 06/26/06
what MS did was ******.... JoeMama_z   | 06/26/06
I REMEBER! John Zern   | 06/27/06
Wrong John L. Ries   | 06/26/06
They're not waiting, they've canned it. olePigeon   | 06/26/06
Did you miss the memo? Yagotta B. Kidding   | 06/26/06
Another post to bookmark Michael Kelly   | 06/26/06
re: Microsoft showed good judgement in waiting barsteward   | 06/26/06
From the MSDN blog: A reply dragosani   | 06/26/06
But that's standard MS "development" + "business" models... :-) pls michael_t   | 06/26/06
For a poster who won't be using it Boot_Agnostic   | 06/26/06
Redefined... techboy_z   | 06/26/06
Performance killed WinFS, period. FADS_z   | 06/26/06
The Sad Tale of WinFS and the Vista User eXPerience Sgt. Pinback   | 06/26/06
Ooops - no bundled database with Windows then! whisperycat   | 06/27/06

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