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By Robert Lemos
Posted on ZDNet News: Oct 31, 2003 7:31:00 PM

Apple Computer said Friday that it plans to issue an update to older versions of Mac OS X to fix security flaws that were patched as part of the new Panther OS.

While some in the security community fretted that Apple would only make the patches available as part of the $129 Panther upgrade, Apple said it will also offer the security patches for older versions of Mac OS X.

"Apple's policy is to quickly address significant vulnerabilities in past releases of Mac OS X wherever feasible," the company said in a statement. "The shipment of Panther does not change this policy. Apple has an excellent track record of working with CERT (Computer Emergency Response Team) and the open-source community to proactively identify and correct potential vulnerabilities," it said.

The concern began on Tuesday, when Apple released an advisory that indicated that the Mac OS X 10.3 upgrade--which adds an improved Finder menu, better synchronization of files and a tool to help its users find a specific window on a crowded desktop--also includes more than a dozen "security enhancements."

At the time, some in the security community said they believed that Apple was not planning to offer updates for older Mac OS X versions and expressed their displeasure.

"It is not a friendly thing to tell your customers to shell out a lot of money to stay secure," said Thor Larholm, senior researcher for software security firm PivX Solutions. "It would be a dangerous precedent if they did."

David Goldsmith, director of research for @Stake, a security company that found four of the vulnerabilities, said it was his understanding that Apple was not planning on patching the flaws in earlier versions of the software.

"In my initial conversations with them, they said they weren't going to fix 10.2, but I wouldn't be surprised if they change that," he said.

Typically, companies that charge for software provide security updates for the software for a certain period of time. Microsoft provides support for its products for about five years and releases service packs every year that include all the enhancements to the software. Microsoft doesn't charge for the service packs.


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"Imagine if Microsoft tried to charge for security fixes--people would go crazy," Larholm said.

Linux vendors typically work things a bit differently, as so much of the software they distribute is produced by developers outside the companies. Red Hat, for example, charges about $40 for its desktop edition and provides a year of easily accessible updates for free through its Red Hat Network. After that, users either have to pay $60 a year for the service, manually install each update or subscribe to a free service such as Ximian's basic Red Carpet service. (Novell now owns Ximian.)

Apple's plan falls between the two models, offering bug fixes for free but charging $129 for the update to the operating system. Panther is the third update the company has released since Mac OS X debuted in March 2001.

The current set of vulnerabilities include a flaw in the operating system that causes applications to be installed that have insecure file permissions. Other vulnerabilities could allow a local or remote user to crash the system.

@stake's advisories say users should either upgrade to Panther or turn off the affected software component.

But PivX's Larholm said Apple would have to release some patches to previous versions of its OS or risk angering its users.

"They have stated that they want to release a new version of OS X every year, but this is the first time they have hinted that they will not be supporting any particular OS X version for more than that year and that they expect all their customers to upgrade their operating system on a yearly basis," he said.

CNET News.com's Ina Fried and ZDNet Australia's Patrick Gray contributed to this report.

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@STAKE ADVISORY
That occurred to me as well - that @stake seemed
to be plumping for Microsoft's security update
policies, not long after the dismissal of their CTO, Dan Geer, for participating in a study that e... (Read the rest)
Posted by: maxs Posted on: 11/26/03 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
@Stake  mlprice | 10/29/03
RE: @Stake  JakAttak | 10/29/03
SECURITY FIXES AVAILABLE  FreeBSD | 10/29/03
Fixes ONLY for Mac OS X v10.3 and Server v10.3.  dicktaurus@... | 10/30/03
agree! and now they are spreading M$ FUD  screaming silence | 10/29/03
No doubt!  KTLA | 10/29/03
*ahem*  ambiguity | 10/29/03
There you go using common sense. STOP IT!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/29/03
when there's finally a decent discussion...  ambiguity | 10/29/03
I couldn't agree more!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/29/03
Reply to no_axe_to_grind's message  d_jedi | 10/29/03
debate is good...  ambiguity | 10/29/03
patch this  broadway al | 10/30/03
Can you say hypocrite?  NoB$ | 11/01/03
Didn't MS have to bail Apple out...  John Zern | 10/29/03
Ummm you happen to be off by about 15 miles...  Hard Cider | 10/30/03
Umm, you had better check the Apple site.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/29/03
i have a dull axe to grind  stephen732@... | 10/29/03
Wibble...  Sam_Lowry | 10/29/03
i wouldn't trust...  stephen732@... | 10/29/03
Bob  Sam_Lowry | 10/29/03
Don - Where are you now????  bgoss@... | 11/01/03
the king still has no clothes  sackbut | 10/30/03
@STAKE ADVISORY  maxs | 11/26/03
@Stake and Dan Geer  mlprice | 10/29/03
What's the difference?  rapson | 10/29/03
Exactly.  Fred Fredrickson | 10/29/03
show link, you're credibility is @stake  stephen732@... | 10/29/03
whats a fake flaw?  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
sigh  stephen732@... | 10/29/03
Good grief  pschroeder@... | 10/29/03
Good try  stephen732@... | 10/31/03
sad try, as usual  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
how can you compare a vunerablity with a mess  broadway al | 10/30/03
Obscure argument  Fred Fredrickson | 10/31/03
Difference?! = When prof'l analysts turn into prof'l ****** for monopolists  dicktaurus@... | 10/30/03
Another M$ shill rears his brainless head.  NoB$ | 11/01/03
@stake  d_jedi | 10/29/03
@Stake a puppet of Microsoft? The ones who fired Greer!  nagromme | 10/29/03
Yep, @stake IS a 'Ho for M$BS and FUD.  dicktaurus@... | 10/31/03
Huh, $129 for a bug fix?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/29/03
Give Apple a minute or two  tic swayback | 10/29/03
Older OS's???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/29/03
Just announced, but fixed in the new OS?  default user_z | 10/29/03
Re: Just announced, but fixed in the new OS?  issthatso | 10/29/03
Apple IS going to update Jaguar!  MacGeek2121 | 11/03/03
Ha ha, if only Apple had thought to add FEATURES to Panther wink  nagromme | 10/29/03
$129 for a .1 upgrade? Dang that's cheap.  DanBirchall | 10/29/03
ok first off its windows 2000, end of story...  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
Service packs. Hmm.  DanBirchall | 10/29/03
SP2 should be 1st quarter of next year i think.  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
re: if I was a mac user...  bgoss@... | 10/29/03
Right!  KTLA | 10/29/03
why wasn't that stuff in the origional OSX?  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
Because, Joe  Fred Fredrickson | 10/29/03
Fred...  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
KTLA...  pschroeder@... | 10/29/03
Sam, get a grip! Take your meds (LOL). Listen...  dicktaurus@... | 10/30/03
Not so obvious to me  sackbut | 10/30/03
If you had the Microsoft beta...  dscherf | 10/30/03
Upgrade security patching  pschroeder@... | 10/29/03
Not to mention, Panther is NOT a point upgrade  nagromme | 10/29/03
RE: Not to mention, Panther is NOT a point upgrade  JakAttak | 10/30/03
Agreed.  dicktaurus@... | 10/30/03
It's OS X 10.3  dscherf | 10/30/03
You must be confused Bitty....  Rick_K | 10/29/03
No confusion here  voska | 10/30/03
You are pretty confused too  AxleMunshine | 10/30/03
Windows NT 4.0  dscherf | 10/30/03
Huh, $199 for a bunch of new bugs  Len Rooney | 10/29/03
Bitty, a legend in his own mind.  NoB$ | 11/01/03
Jaguar Upgade  MacGeek2121 | 11/03/03
******* @ STAKE!!!  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
Amen  pschroeder@... | 10/29/03
Gunfights Require Ammunition  Harry Bardal | 10/29/03
debating for the privilege of paying for a security patch?  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
Language  Harry Bardal | 10/29/03
For those with double digit I.Q.s  Rick_K | 10/29/03
Unlike windows xp, which is a bug patch of NT  sackbut | 10/30/03
Congratulations Rick...  toadlife | 11/02/03
Joe  pschroeder@... | 10/29/03
Thats all im really tryin to say.  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
Completely missing the point  pschroeder@... | 10/29/03
Nothing @ Stake  Harry Bardal | 10/29/03
I am glad your happy.  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
I'm Sorry You're Not  Harry Bardal | 10/29/03
hmmm  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
re: hmmm  bgoss@... | 10/30/03
If you're not a Mac user...  dscherf | 10/30/03
It figures  Stewart Cannon | 10/29/03
FUD Works!  ndelc | 10/29/03
FUD or blowing their own horn?  Fred Fredrickson | 10/29/03
Not the same Dave  ndelc | 10/29/03
But same @Stake (NT)  Fred Fredrickson | 10/29/03
yes the new talkback does suck...  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
RE: ZDNet Doesn't Work!  JakAttak | 10/30/03
What does the title mean?  ndelc | 10/29/03
Install Windows XP Professional on X86 hardware  usapride | 10/29/03
Amazing  ndelc | 10/29/03
yea his opinion is wrong!  JoeMama_z | 10/29/03
Can I get some of that...  Rick_K | 10/29/03
What else have you used?  NoB$ | 11/01/03
"people born in prison"  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
@Stake is.....  Rick_K | 10/29/03
Dear @Stake,  Len Rooney | 10/29/03
This is very boring (new posting system)  usapride | 10/29/03
Not only boring, but...  BitTwiddler | 10/30/03
Article Renaming?  BitTwiddler | 10/30/03
Huh?  ndelc | 10/30/03
Ok, throw me a fricken' bone here...  BitTwiddler | 10/31/03
then don't buy them  ndelc | 10/31/03
imagine  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
Hmmm  dscherf | 11/01/03
?  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
Prefers to pay much more for virusware.  NoB$ | 11/01/03
oki dokie  JoeMama_z | 11/02/03
re:  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
It's not a point upgrade  Rick_K | 10/30/03
ZDnet doesnt understand its terminology?  doh123 | 10/30/03
Spinsters in full swing as usual.  vdraken | 10/30/03
Apple could stop it....  default user_z | 10/30/03
Looks who's spinning the BS  Rick_K | 10/30/03
Questions  V-Train | 10/30/03
@Stake issued this story for it's master.  Rick_K | 10/30/03
Or maybe..  default user_z | 10/31/03
Apple Security Updates  seehunt | 10/30/03
Where's the new headline?  ndelc | 10/31/03
Front Page now  jonnormand | 10/31/03
Eat crow much Bit, Ardian?  tic swayback | 10/31/03
Stuff a sock in it...  pschroeder@... | 10/31/03
As if...  tic swayback | 10/31/03
It's possible  pschroeder@... | 10/31/03
but highly unlikely  tic swayback | 10/31/03
maybe not  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
Fallacious reasoning  dscherf | 11/01/03
Sure, Peter, 'cept only M$ was ADJUDGED evil, and Apple has the good record  dicktaurus@... | 10/31/03
ridiculous  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
Being an M$ shill really is stressful, huh  NoB$ | 11/01/03
NoB$? sad...  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
Go pete  JoeMama_z | 11/02/03
I like the phrase because that's what it is...  dscherf | 11/02/03
Jumping threads...  pschroeder@... | 11/02/03
Too bad you're so closed minded...  dscherf | 11/02/03
huh?  pschroeder@... | 11/02/03
one last thing  pschroeder@... | 11/02/03
Apple never did say otherwise  dscherf | 10/31/03
nor did they say they would  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
JAGUAR != PANTHER  dscherf | 11/01/03
re:  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
Not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing  dscherf | 11/01/03
Not sure what you and I are disagreeing on...  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
Fallacious reasoning  dscherf | 11/02/03
you like that phrase, don't you?  pschroeder@... | 11/02/03
Now we know what trolls eat  dscherf | 10/31/03
Nothing to see here, there are never Apple issues  FilledOut | 10/31/03
Paying for a patch  NoB$ | 11/01/03
Being an ignorant rube...  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
The shoe fits on both feet  dscherf | 11/01/03
Which is good...  pschroeder@... | 11/01/03
Well, you know....  BitTwiddler | 11/01/03
(NT) Exactly right  pschroeder@... | 11/02/03
Be glad they don't charge what.....  Rick_K | 11/04/03
I would've expected nothing less from Apple  jovi1947 | 11/02/03

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