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By Andrew Colley
Posted on ZDNet News: Nov 14, 2003 2:57:00 PM

Proponents of open-source and proprietary software are exchanging blows "on the wrong battleground" said Gartner Research vice president Andrea Di Maio today.

Di Maio argued that while open-source disciples have arranged themselves on a front encircling Microsoft and its widely used operating systems, they should instead be pitching their battle in the application arena.

In Australia, Democrat senators have introduced legislation to promote use of open source in government before both the South Australian and Commonwealth parliament. In each case Microsoft has been the main target of the party's criticism of proprietary software.

Also, Sun Microsystems has persistently attempted to cut into Microsoft's dominance of the government desktop market by highlighting potential license cost savings available through its alternative desktop software, Sun Java Desktop and StarOffice. However Di Maio, who today advised government representatives on how to assess the value of public spending on IT, said that debate focusing on Microsoft licensing alone was inadequate.

According to Di Maio, governments could save far more by using openly-developed enterprise level applications than they would by buying fewer Microsoft operating system licenses. His comments touching on controversial total cost of ownership studies comparing Microsoft and Linux software were picked over by both sides of the debate.

Both IDC and Gartner have published reports attempting to address the question of which operating system is cheaper to run, but neither has produced definitive answers. Both analyst groups say that it can only be addressed on a case-by-case basis.

While Di Maio believes that the open-source debate had become displaced he conceded it was good for "keeping Microsoft under pressure".

Di Maio said if nothing else, the Linux-Microsoft face-off had given organizations a useful negotiating tool.

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Bitty prays to his demi-god for guidance
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Not sure what he is talking about.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Linux folk only think they are fighting  Bill Weisgerber | 11/14/03
For home users, MS is safe for now, but,  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Imagination!  Bill Weisgerber | 11/14/03
You think 7,000 is below the critical mass?  IT_User | 11/14/03
You are really scared of losing you job, aren't you.  zd-spam | 11/15/03
Imagination? Cripes, ripped-off I'd say  Fred Fredrickson | 11/16/03
And My Rebuttal.  nucrash | 11/14/03
Umm..  vdraken | 11/14/03
Poor rebuttal  zd-spam | 11/15/03
A rare breed indeed!  Bill Weisgerber | 11/14/03
Errors in logic  tic swayback | 11/14/03
94 0ut of 100 users  none none | 11/14/03
Where's the proof?  zd-spam | 11/15/03
How much?  Damon K | 11/14/03
Or go "gotcha"!  Bill Weisgerber | 11/14/03
You make some good points.  Damon K | 11/14/03
$60k/yr for an entry level tech support job?  Still Lynn | 11/14/03
Non-starter  zd-spam | 11/15/03
He's made the initial investment  IT_User | 11/18/03
Why fight?  tic swayback | 11/14/03
Fighting? No. Winning, Yes.  tjmiller@... | 11/14/03
Not sure what you are talking about  Loverock Davidson | 11/14/03
Oh, Microsoft invented the GUI, Internet, multi-tasking?  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Nice way to change the subject  Loverock Davidson | 11/14/03
Copying GUIs  Patrick Jones | 11/14/03
Hey, you said that Linux coppied Windows, did you not?  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Your last sentence???  IT_User | 11/14/03
Proprietary apps on Linux?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/03
Proprietary apps on Linux?  Still Lynn | 11/15/03
linux users are cheap bastards who hate to pay for anything?  Noneya | 11/14/03
...  bhanes@... | 11/14/03
.  Loverock Davidson | 11/14/03
WOW  bhanes@... | 11/14/03
WOW  Loverock Davidson | 11/14/03
I'll take that challenge: http://pythonhacker.is-a-geek.net  esrever_otua | 11/15/03
No, you're the moron  MalumRegnat | 11/14/03
Virii is a term of biology  IT_User | 11/15/03
Why don't you run some Linux worms and viruses?  zd-spam | 11/15/03
really?  tjmiller@... | 11/14/03
My, you are an *offensive* little man, aren't you? [nt]  esrever_otua | 11/15/03
Total FUD  zd-spam | 11/15/03
First time..  vdraken | 11/14/03
Glad we can agree here.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
You didn't name a single enterprise level app  NotInThisLife | 11/14/03
You mean like Oracle, yes?  tjmiller@... | 11/14/03
minor correction.  tjmiller@... | 11/14/03
Dear Stupid:  NotInThisLife | 11/14/03
You're right  IT_User | 11/14/03
Re:  NotInThisLife | 11/14/03
Tough to do, very tough.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
Microsoft won the market by being "good" enough.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Well, that's one opinion.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
And here is another  nucrash | 11/14/03
Open Office?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
Don't be so sure  nucrash | 11/14/03
Same sorry claims.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
Microsoft won a lot of markets by being persistent.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
I hope you are right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
OpenOffice.org  nucrash | 11/14/03
For many situations, OpenOffice is better.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Sorry, that dog won't hunt.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
Hey, we are persistent, give it time.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Inertia  tic swayback | 11/14/03
Tell the Thai  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/03
Thai, computing capital of the world. Buwahahaha  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
No, that's  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/03
Now what was that about?  IT_User | 11/14/03
And here is yet another.....  LazurusLong | 11/14/03
That might work  Loverock Davidson | 11/14/03
I did not say EVERY employee only needed OpenOffice  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Baloney  Chad_z | 11/14/03
LAMP for the acronym challenged  Robert Crocker | 11/14/03
LAMP Challeged?  nucrash | 11/14/03
LAMP?  Ardian Daka | 11/14/03
the 'P' is also for Python and Pearl  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Clue, the article is not about servers.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
It's about OSS  Chad_z | 11/14/03
No, but it is about applications  IT_User | 11/14/03
I am using one to type this to you Bit  nucrash | 11/14/03
Do ALL web pages render properly?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
All the ones that adhere to WC3 standards  nucrash | 11/14/03
You do some, I'll do all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
I'll do some, you'll do some  nucrash | 11/14/03
Don't forget  tic swayback | 11/14/03
All?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/03
Yup.  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/03
I don't know - do you?  IT_User | 11/14/03
Define "better"  tic swayback | 11/14/03
One word: Apache  Robert Crocker | 11/14/03
Still confused? It's not about servers.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
Another word or two: Mozilla Firebird  nucrash | 11/14/03
Again, does it render ALL web sites properly?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/03
If Microsoft would remove the legacy code from the browser  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
Not sure what your issue is...  B.O.F.H. | 11/14/03
Tautology  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/03
I've found both are equal  voska | 11/17/03
You are right, Microsoft can leverage the desktop to gain on servers.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/03
We did  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/03
RE: We did  Chipper1963 | 11/14/03
Reading comprehension problems?  Robert Crocker | 11/14/03
Poor, poor bitty  zd-spam | 11/15/03
It's like choosing premium gas or regular at this point.  Michael Kelly | 11/14/03
Forget about the desktop  IT_User | 11/14/03
Examples  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/03
YOu have a very narrow view of what constitutes applications  B.O.F.H. | 11/14/03
Compare then.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/16/03
A different perspective...  John Le'Brecage | 11/14/03
Gnumeric vs Excel; the winner is Gnumeric...  esrever_otua | 11/15/03
Poor bitty  zd-spam | 11/15/03
Hmmm, good enough huh?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/16/03
Picking MS Office is not buying MS Office  voska | 11/17/03
Bitty prays to his demi-god for guidance  zd-spam | 03/30/04
Is there some attempt to confuse?  OhMyGosh | 11/14/03
Choose the playing field  nucrash | 11/14/03
Di Maio's on the wrong battleground  IT_User | 11/14/03
Battle is Won?  ShadeTree | 11/14/03
Not here. Not yet.  IT_User | 11/14/03
Same can be said for the Desktop  km4hr@... | 11/14/03
Battle  crocd | 11/14/03
Even MS users should welcome competition  rbethell | 11/14/03
re : Even MS users should welcome competition  lmaxwell | 11/14/03
re : Even MS users should welcome competition  none none | 11/14/03
What a pretty strawman...  tjmiller@... | 11/14/03
RED HERRING ALERT!! Aim: Take focus off OSS *OS* superiority.  dicktaurus@... | 11/14/03

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