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Posted on ZDNet News: Dec 12, 2003 11:36:00 PM

Microsoft can stop selling older operating systems, and it can even stop supporting them, but that doesn't mean that customers won't still use them.

Even though Microsoft said this week that it will stop distributing Windows 98 at the end of this month, a new study shows that a substantial number of businesses, both large and small, are still using it.

The study, released this week by technology consultant AssetMetrix, found that more than 80 percent of companies still have some machines using Windows 95 or Windows 98. Of those companies still using the older operating systems, an average of 39 percent of desktops were running either Windows 95 or Windows 98.

"We found a significant occurrence of Windows 9x," said Steve O'Halloran, managing director for the research arm of AssetMetrix. The study looked at 372,129 PCs from 670 companies ranging in size from 10 to 49,000 employees.

The size of the business did not seem to dictate how prevalent the older operating systems were, with larger companies as likely as smaller ones to have a high prevalence of older operating systems. In total, Windows 95 made up 14.7 percent of operating systems, and Windows 98 made up 12.5 percent. Windows 2000 was the most common OS, running on slightly more than half of machines, while its predecessor, Windows NT4, was still used on 13.3 percent of desktops.

Windows XP, the most current version of Windows, was found on just 6.6 percent of the machines.

Consumers are also still widely using Windows 98. Google reported that 29 percent of searches done in September came from machines running Windows 98, as compared with 38 percent from Windows XP-based PCs and 20 percent from Windows 2000 machines.

The survey comes as Microsoft announced that it will stop distributing Windows 98 and several other older software titles at the end of this month. Microsoft also plans to end extended support for Windows 98 in mid-January, meaning that only Web-based self help will be available.

The company's policy would not ordinarily call for Microsoft to provide any security-related patches, but in an e-mailed statement, the company said it would evaluate future threats as they emerge.

"In addition to the robust set of third-party security products we encourage all Windows customers to use, including antivirus and firewall products, (after Jan. 16) we will evaluate malicious threats to our customers' systems on a case-by-case basis and take appropriate steps," Microsoft said.

Windows 95 has already passed through the online self-help stage and has been designated "end of life," while Windows NT4 Workstation is scheduled to hit that point June 30, 2004.

The changes to Microsoft's support and distribution of Windows 98 raise some issues for companies. AssetMetrix, which is in the business of helping companies move to new operating systems, said it recommends that all Internet-connected computers be upgraded from Windows 98 to a more modern and still fully supported OS.

One of the main issues, O'Halloran said, is the security risk Internet-attached PCs running the older OS pose.

"Now, there is a way to get into the infrastructure," he said. "Your buddies down the hall on Windows XP or Windows 2000 might be fine, but you become the Typhoid Mary for the company."

There are also lesser issues related to the fact that Microsoft is halting the distribution of Windows 98 as a result of a settlement with Sun Microsystems regarding Microsoft's Java. As part of the settlement, Microsoft agreed to stop distributing software containing the Microsoft Java Virtual Machine by Jan. 2, 2004. The company got an extension that allows Microsoft to support such software through Sept. 30, 2004, but officials said the company still has to stop distributing the software by January.

The end of distribution does not necessarily mean that companies cannot install Windows 98 on new machines. Those that have the disks and have certain volume-licensing agreements with Microsoft can use the OS on new installations.

Both Microsoft and outsiders expect the impact of the end of distribution to be minimal.

"I don't think it's going to mean much for anybody," O'Halloran said.

Tony Goodhew, a Microsoft product manager, stressed that the software giant is not trying to force customers to upgrade. But he said small businesses and consumers who depend on the older OS should make sure to keep a copy of the operating system.

"If the dog goes and eats your DVD, that could be a problem," Goodhew said.

Scott Warren, a nursery owner in Glencoe, Ky., said he uses Windows 98 for both personal and business purposes, although he does not directly connect his Windows 98-equipped business machine to the Internet. But Warren said that not offering security patches for older operating systems would hurt all computer owners.

"Most (Windows 98 users) are probably like me and do not intend to be coerced into spending several hundred dollars every three years or so," he said in an e-mail. "What this means is that the Internet viruses, worms, Trojans and who knows what else will have 'free reign' of the older machines compromising the entire Net."

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Posted by: beafeater Posted on: 02/03/04 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Because the hardware can't handle the bloat  Aphelion | 12/12/03
True, my old 386 won't run Win95 either.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/03
Funny..  Patrick Jones | 12/12/03
See, I KNEW Linux...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/03
Of course  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/12/03
Yes...  Patrick Jones | 12/13/03
Go to bed.  beafeater | 02/03/04
point is ~ it will run a thin client just fine.  Aphelion | 12/12/03
True, if you want to drive a model 'T'  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/03
Minor bone to pick...  Michael Kelly | 12/12/03
Exactly  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/12/03
I am not sure what you consider as serious computing needs?  B.O.F.H. | 12/12/03
I know.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 12/12/03
Thin clients are not the whole answer  ddave_z | 12/15/03
Model T?  markp1950 | 12/20/03
God you annoy me.  beafeater | 02/03/04
Re: thin clients  frankblank | 12/15/03
what's the source of th eproblem?  ryusen | 12/15/03
I had a 386 running Windows 2000 Pro  voska | 12/12/03
Slick?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 12/12/03
Old O/S  CodeBubba | 12/12/03
No, actually, you're wrong  zd-spam | 12/14/03
Re: No, actually, you're wrong  sonicmaze | 12/15/03
Huh?  CAJonesIT | 12/15/03
Yes, there is "apoint"  Beatrix Kiddo | 12/13/03
Makes for a Dull Ax[e]  CAJonesIT | 12/15/03
How about this?  Mark Gist | 12/15/03
No intelligence from the 12 year old.  beafeater | 02/03/04
It's ALL about WPAggravation...  moiety | 12/13/03
Time for those machines to go.  Suicida| | 12/13/03
Time for those machines to go?  jelindley | 12/15/03
Microsot's biggest competator  MarcB_z | 12/12/03
MS OS's are a joke  Suicida| | 12/13/03
I'd go MS in a second  John Zern | 12/13/03
I have and it isnt pretty.  Suicida| | 12/14/03
Productivity in the NON-M$ Environment  CAJonesIT | 12/15/03
Nothing to do with Java...  prime21 | 12/12/03
5 year old support  Ardian Daka | 12/12/03
if you pay, they will support it...  ryusen | 12/15/03
Re: Old Solaris vs Old Windows  Rabid Conservative | 12/16/03
Re: Nothing to do with Java...  Suicida| | 12/13/03
DOS is boss...  moiety | 12/12/03
Probably not....  Bob/Paul | 12/12/03
yeah, uh huh...  moiety | 12/13/03
Who cares.  Suicida| | 12/13/03
DOS is best  in-DUH-vidual | 12/12/03
Microsoft screwing customers, forcing upgrades.  DonnieBoy | 12/12/03
Where is the gun?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/03
What if you need a security fix?  DonnieBoy | 12/12/03
I see, they WANT the benefits of...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/03
Benifits, no, compatibility, yes, support, yes, security, yes  DonnieBoy | 12/12/03
Those ARE benefits.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/15/03
Great strategy, don't do anything nice for customers!!  DonnieBoy | 12/15/03
Then they're screwed  Bob/Paul | 12/12/03
RE: Then they're screwed  JakAttak | 12/12/03
screwed? how about braindead  lotta_anger | 12/13/03
Amen, brother...  IT_Firefighter | 12/15/03
Correction  IT_Firefighter | 12/15/03
exactly  cdt657 | 12/12/03
The "gun" is discontinued support  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/12/03
The Gun is at the head of the OEM's  Aphelion | 12/12/03
Name the OEM.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/03
RE: Name the OEM.  JakAttak | 12/12/03
I see, you confused cheap with available.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/12/03
Forced sale  boulder | 12/13/03
Of course not  voska | 12/12/03
Not really  Suicida| | 12/14/03
Windowless PC  copygod74 | 12/15/03
Read the article.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 12/12/03
not the Vulnerability but the Severity  Suicida| | 12/14/03
"the gun"  ryusen | 12/15/03
Security issues?  Mopsey | 12/12/03
Most secure windoze serving...  moiety | 12/12/03
Re: Security issues?  rthorat@... | 12/12/03
I question the aquracy  dg mh | 12/12/03
XP  Ardian Daka | 12/12/03
That's what we did  voska | 12/12/03
What can't it be right?  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/12/03
Don't tell me...  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 12/12/03
Xp isn't looking like...  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/12/03
done?  Ardian Daka | 12/12/03
Who's fooling who?  Aphelion | 12/12/03
Exactly  GRindinAxTaRupy | 12/12/03
fool  Bob/Paul | 12/12/03
And you are  John Zern | 12/13/03
Your post shows it doing better then ever  John Zern | 12/13/03
Linux access to Google  Dwight Hebert | 12/15/03
serilously.  ryusen | 12/15/03
Windows 98 is not the real story here...  BitTwiddler | 12/12/03
Seriously...  Patrick Jones | 12/12/03
A format Office 2000 will not read  CAJonesIT | 12/15/03
I'm afraid you're right.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 12/12/03
MS Financed FUD!!  Eggs Ackley_z | 12/12/03
Why is everyone always so wrong?  Bob/Paul | 12/12/03
You're wrong too...  boulder | 12/13/03
I Talked to MS and they said  John Zern | 12/13/03
who did you speak too?  JWatson77 | 12/14/03
I think you better talk again.  zd-spam | 12/14/03
Lesson here is inertia  Anton Philidor | 12/12/03
Absolutely right - it's planned obsolescence...  IT_User | 12/12/03
You're kidding, right?!  Anton Philidor | 12/13/03
If it's not broke don't fix it  voska | 12/15/03
Can some lawyers please confirm this?  toomuchgreeatea@... | 12/12/03
Don't think so...  Bob/Paul | 12/12/03
WinXP a mediocrity  michael-t | 12/12/03
Oh yeah sure.  DO_z | 12/12/03
Oh, really  boulder | 12/13/03
You seem a little smarter than the other two.  DO_z | 12/15/03
It's OK; you will survive.  michael-t | 12/13/03
Yet another clueless one.  DO_z | 12/15/03
Just because you're a moron  zd-spam | 12/14/03
Can you read?  DO_z | 12/15/03
No Unix World, No Windows World  bobmepp@... | 12/13/03
Only a Matrix world  kray_z | 12/13/03
That IS the problem  michael-t | 12/13/03
Another wishfull thinker?  John Zern | 12/13/03
patching  michael-t | 12/14/03
Not Until Linux/Unix Is Supported  terry@... | 12/15/03
90% of the Apps I use I've found are on Linux too  voska | 12/15/03
Your Circle of Friends  JimSatterfieldW | 12/15/03
I'd say 3 year but for a differnt reason  voska | 12/15/03
Whatever  M1A1A8MG | 12/12/03
Are You Serious?  Don Bradley | 12/12/03
Serious as a heart attack  Aphelion | 12/12/03
So Much, Yet So Little  Don Bradley | 12/12/03
DRM really IS a threat to your computing experience !!!  boulder | 12/13/03
Boulder, Boulder!  Don Bradley | 12/13/03
You don't know what you 're talking about  boulder | 12/14/03
Have you had you head in the sand?  Rick_K | 12/14/03
IMAGINE THE HASSLE  JWatson77 | 12/14/03
Seems he knows....  Rick_K | 12/14/03
Only 1 Problem  voska | 12/15/03
I agree with M1  Chad_z | 12/13/03
That's Your Prerogative  Don Bradley | 12/13/03
Product activation limits your rights  boulder | 12/14/03
Actually  Don Bradley | 12/14/03
I just figured it out  Chad_z | 12/13/03
Hmmm..  MajikMyst | 12/14/03
Have you been smoking crack?  Rick_K | 12/14/03
There was no Microsoft Java VM  FirstNLastN | 12/12/03
Licesenced from Sun  Bob/Paul | 12/12/03
what?  JWatson77 | 12/14/03
They are scrambling to get off MS Java perhaps because .NET is superior?  balsover | 12/15/03
Those pushing for newer or alternative  FilledOut | 12/12/03
again 2nd party apps  Arrg | 12/12/03
Out with the old in with the new  enterprises7@... | 12/12/03
Recycling  CAJonesIT | 12/15/03
Users stick with Win 98 because they don't want Activation or DRM  Plain Logic | 12/12/03
Better off with 2000 Pro  DarthRidiculous | 12/12/03
RE: Better off with 2000 Pro  Iain_Peters | 12/13/03
too late  JWatson77 | 12/14/03
DRM aint so bad...  voska | 12/15/03
Win98 is better suported  nite_w0lf | 12/13/03
users cling to old microsoft operating systems  gradyoliver | 12/13/03
Not saying you're wrong, but...  Anton Philidor | 12/13/03
We have the same problem  Arrg | 12/15/03
Why not use VMWARE or Virtual PC  boulder | 12/13/03
My customers are mad this time  Chad_z | 12/13/03
Free choice  boulder | 12/13/03
Us Win3x Users Can Get By  cmh510@... | 12/13/03
I'm Trying  Don Bradley | 12/13/03
One word "macintosh"  DarthRidiculous | 12/14/03
This Is Pure BS and FUD  Wizard57M | 12/13/03
Why do Linux users think they speak for the masses?  John Zern | 12/13/03
Regarding Comparing Automobiles and Computers  Wizard57M | 12/14/03
The diffence with the car industry and puter industry is  voska | 12/15/03
Can't really compare MS, Apple, Sun, and others to cars  FilledOut | 12/15/03
a few points  voska | 12/15/03
who's speaking?  ryusen | 12/16/03
Avoid buggy .net stuff!  George Mitchell | 12/14/03
Are you even a programmer?  sdk_z | 12/14/03
Is this the equivilant of a blue screen in Windows?  George Mitchell | 12/14/03
What makes you think that Apache web servers do not crash?  balsover | 12/15/03
No, it's not.  sdk_z | 12/15/03
Windows98 R.I.P  ghandalf | 12/14/03
RE: security risk...  caktus | 12/15/03
more to the point  JWatson77 | 12/14/03
Why is it that..  supercharlie | 12/14/03
Fertile Ground for Linux  km4hr@... | 12/15/03
I agree, except ...  bobpcomputer | 12/15/03
Warranties are a sometime thing  peterdee_z | 12/15/03
don't need an IT specialist  McWoman | 12/15/03
XP Device Drivers not available  Old Timer_z | 12/15/03
Device drivers are the responsibility of the hardware vendor  balsover | 12/15/03
Using Old OS's  bobpcomputer | 12/15/03
That's not the law  voska | 12/15/03
RE: That's not the law...Seem I read  caktus | 12/15/03
3rd party distribution of WIN98  bobpcomputer | 12/16/03
Where is the problem? Don't upgrade; stop whining  balsover | 12/15/03
Microsoft ends support for Windows 98 Response  donald.coe@... | 12/15/03
Old OSs  Jeff_RL | 12/15/03
Windows 98 sucks  JoeMama_z | 12/15/03
reply to: Windows 98 sucks  bobpcomputer | 12/16/03
How many proprietary software makers  FilledOut | 12/17/03
XP may be the end of the line.  kiddpeat | 12/22/03

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