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By Matt Hines
Posted on ZDNet News: Jan 13, 2004 7:23:00 PM

A judge has ruled that the Web site Linux vendor Lindows set to aid California residents in processing claims against rival software maker Microsoft will not be tolerated.

Judge Paul H. Alvarado of the Superior Court of California for San Francisco County said last week that claims submitted through the MSfreePC site will not be recognized. Alvarado instructed a court-appointed company responsible for processing California residents' claims to reject those made through the site and indicated that only claims applications submitted via standard paperwork will be accepted.


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The MSfreePC site offered individuals qualified for benefits based on Microsoft's $1.1 billion California class-action settlement the ability to swap the vouchers they are eligible to receive from the software giant for Lindows products. The Microsoft vouchers can be used to buy hardware or software products from any manufacturer and typically range in value from $5 to $29. The site also promised a free personal computer to the first 10,000 people who bought $100 worth of Lindows products via MSfreePC.

Neither Lindows nor Microsoft could be immediately reached for comment on the ruling. However, a message posted on the Lindows site said consumers who have already processed their claims through MSfreePC will be permitted to keep any the software that they had received.

In November 2003, Microsoft asked the court to reject any claims filed via MSfreePC, saying the Lindows site violated the terms of Microsoft's settlement by using so-called digital signatures to process submissions. (Digital signatures are online validation agreements used to verify individuals' identities.) Lindows argued in response that Microsoft only opposed the site because it hoped to escape paying as much of the settlement as possible by making the claims process "arduous and time-consuming" for Californians.

Microsoft contended in its legal filings that the matter of digital signatures was hashed out in previous discussions between its attorneys and counsel representing California's class-action members and was written into the settlement itself. The software maker also said it needed traditional paper-based verification in order to help eliminate fraudulent claims and to keep other software vendors from attempting to cash in on the settlement.

A Microsoft representative said the company was pleased with the judge's decision and that the software maker remains committed to honoring the terms of its settlement with California. The representative said the company believes the settlement process is more "straightforward and clear" without the Lindows site.

Microsoft executives have repeatedly referred to MSfreePC as a marketing tool used by Lindows to promote its own products and said the site could have misled consumers into believing that there was an alternate claims process that differs from the original settlement. Microsoft and California established another site, operated by the court-appointed claims admnistrator, to offer claims submission information to the public.

Reached via telephone, Lindows CEO Michael Robertson said the judge's ruling was detrimental to California residents. Lindows estimates that roughly 15,000 people have already used MSfreePC to file their claims against Microsoft.

"This is more of a setback for consumers than anyone, and it's a shame that large class-action settlements remain paper-based," Robertson said. "Microsoft trumpeted--to anyone who would listen--about how much they were paying in this case, and it's clear that these claims were disingenuous, since they're now making such obvious ploys to pay as little as possible."

Robertson restated his belief that Microsoft is being hypocritical in criticizing the validity of digital signatures, which it uses to market some of its own products. He said consumers who already processed their claims through MSfreePC would be permitted to keep any of the software they had received, at a loss of an estimated $1 million in revenue to Lindows.

"Judges and attorneys should be insistent that the 25 million consumers in California have access to an online claims process," Robertson said in the statement. "Microsoft's claim that digital signatures are valid when used to sell their software--but not when it costs them money--is pure hypocrisy. Their true intentions are not to remedy their abusive pricing policies but simply to escape financial redress to Californians."

Under the terms of the settlement, California residents have until March 2004 to file any claims, at which point two-thirds of any leftover amount from the $1.1 billion settlement will be awarded to California schools.

Microsoft is also pursuing Lindows in a lawsuit that claims that the company's name infringes on the trademark for Microsoft's Windows operating system.

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So... let me get this straight. Microsoft is fighting against digital signatures. Hmmm I wonder if all of the windows eulas buttons would be considered "digital sigs. Just a thought!... (Read the rest)
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good!  ryusen | 01/13/04
oh yeah...  ryusen | 01/13/04
right  frgough@... | 01/13/04
as sharp as you?  ryusen | 01/13/04
What do you expect from a hobbit?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
i wonder if ritual suicide is in order now...  ryusen | 01/13/04
yeah yeah yeah  vdraken | 01/13/04
Yeah?  SublimeDaze | 01/13/04
how about the free PC?  dg mh | 01/13/04
Huh?  Patrick Jones | 01/13/04
is "de facto" free!  dg mh | 01/13/04
You may want to re-read the GPL..  Patrick Jones | 01/13/04
it doesn't say that you should ripp of customers  dg mh | 01/13/04
Well..  Patrick Jones | 01/13/04
but..  d_jedi | 01/14/04
intelligence of the people!!  nite_w0lf | 01/13/04
Doesn't say you can't, either  doctormoriarty | 01/14/04
Um we were just kidding about the free PCs.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Lindows was claiming a high morale ground against MS  dg mh | 01/13/04
Notice none of the supporters have anything to say?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Looked like Plublicity Stunt to me  voska | 01/13/04
While I support Lindows..  Patrick Jones | 01/13/04
Thank you for saying so!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/14/04
A good ruling IMHO  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
Wow, Lindows and Windows reps not available for comment  FilledOut | 01/13/04
Just a lot of free publicity for Lindows AND the settlement.  DonnieBoy | 01/13/04
Yeah, a real bunch of idiots...  Confused by religion | 01/13/04
Go ahead, gloat about Microsoft profits.  DonnieBoy | 01/13/04
Value of 'free' advertisement  Domb2 | 01/13/04
Sometimes free advertising is the best.  DonnieBoy | 01/13/04
Definatly.  vdraken | 01/13/04
Robertson's statement of fact  Richard Flude | 01/13/04
General manager of Microsoft's Windows digital media  hal9000mx | 01/13/04
Lindows is on an upswing, the groth is exponential,  DonnieBoy | 01/13/04
Even the biggest animal swats a fly.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/13/04
That is what is sooo iritating about Open Source.  DonnieBoy | 01/13/04
Not exactly..  d_jedi | 01/14/04
My only problem with this ruling  AbsolutelyNot | 01/13/04
you have a good point, but...  ryusen | 01/13/04
That's Exactly...  BitTwiddler | 01/13/04
funny you compare those two  JWatson77 | 01/13/04
If I'm not mistaken  rapson | 01/13/04
Go ahead, gloat about Microsoft profits.  DonnieBoy | 01/13/04
whats a shame  JWatson77 | 01/13/04
Yeah, a real shame...  Confused by religion | 01/13/04
MS wants to give the money to schools instead.  doh123 | 01/13/04
you forgot something  ryusen | 01/13/04
I hope Lindows learned their lesson  nite_w0lf | 01/13/04
Lindows, good try at screwing MS  FilledOut | 01/14/04
digital signatures  ZooberSoft | 01/14/04

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