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By John Borland
Posted on ZDNet News: Jan 29, 2004 1:20:00 AM

Responding to sharp criticism from legislators, a group of file-swapping companies told Congress that they have no ability to block copyrighted files or child pornography from their networks.

As part of a lengthy letter to Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-N.C., the P2P United trade association said Wednesday that file-swapping companies should not be held to a standard that is technologically infeasible.

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Lawmakers "have been deliberately misinformed by self-interested industry about the technological capability of peer-to-peer services," said Adam Eisgrau, P2P United's executive director. "It is not that we won't filter out copyrighted material and inappropriate sexual material. It's that we can't."

The group's claim, backed up by considerable technical documentation, comes as calls for filtering of file-swapping networks are rising in Congress and in courts.

Graham and a quartet of other legislators sent a letter to P2P United's member companies last November, asking for assurances that the file-swapping companies would attempt to stop illegal material from being traded through their networks.

Most pointedly, the letter asked that the companies work to create some kind of filters that could block copyrighted material and pornography.

File-swapping companies have contended that this kind of filter is impossible in a decentralized system such as Gnutella or Kazaa.

In older file-swapping services such as the original Napster, in which searches were routed through a central point, a filtering mechanism was more feasible.

But in wholly decentralized networks, in which searches radiate out through a constantly shifting array of "nodes," or individual computers, filters are impractical, the group said. Only by forcing the networks to change into something else--a centralized system, for example--would effective filters be useful, the group added.

However, some companies say they have the ability to do some effective filtering.

A company called Audible Magic, which installs song-recognition software inside Internet service provider networks, with the promise of identifying and blocking trades of copyrighted songs, demonstrated its software to members of Congress and the press in Washington D.C.

The demonstrations, set up by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), were intended to refute the notion that filtering is impossible on file-swapping networks.

"Audible Magic proves (filtering) can be done," RIAA Chief Executive Officer Mitch Bainwol said. "This is not speculation; it's a real live technology that's on the market today. If the peer-to-peer community is serious about becoming legitimate, one would think they would explore this kind of technological tool to help address the piracy problem."

P2P United's Eisgrau said that neither the RIAA nor Audible Magic had contacted the organization or its members with any information about the technology. He said that the file-swapping members would be happy to do a live engineering test under the auspices of Congress.

"If the equivalent of cold fusion has been invented in the software context, it ought to be a matter of science and engineering to see if it works," Eisgrau said.

The two sides may be talking about different types of filters, however.

As currently offered, Audible Magic's technology functions inside telecommunications or corporate networks, essentially serving as the equivalent of a roadblock, looking into cars--or in this case, data packets--as they pass and obstructing unauthorized information. That could stop file swappers on a given service provider's network, but would do little to impede swapping overall.

By contrast, a filter that worked universally throughout a distributed file-swapping network such as Kazaa would likely have to be integrated into the software itself. Additionally, unless a gigantic and constantly changing database of songs, movies and other material were to be included along with every piece of file-swapping software, it would require the software filters to check in with a central server each time a trade or search was initiated.

Peer-to-peer companies say they don't intend to add those centralization features to their software and note that a federal judge has said that decentralized file-swapping network tools such as Gnutella are legal to distribute. An appeals court in Pasadena, Calif., will re-examine that ruling next week.

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So true
The dinosaurs in the court system and in Congress are hard to teach the nature of the tech world, and that they can't blanket apply the old physical world rules to the cyberworld. It takes much foreth... (Read the rest)
Posted by: FilledOut Posted on: 02/01/04 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
This is going to get interesting  nite_w0lf | 01/28/04
This is going to get stupid ...  terry flores | 01/28/04
all the media companies need to do  JWatson77 | 01/29/04
RE: all the media companies need to do  ajapierce | 01/29/04
Kazaa has tried  tic swayback | 01/29/04
Good point I haven't bought a cd in years  buxxmaster | 01/29/04
question  dg mh | 01/29/04
Impossible to maintain, easy to bypass  WhatEVERdude | 01/29/04
Trivial to change the signature  maxo_z | 01/29/04
FILTER WHAT?  kd5auq | 01/29/04
Would  ParadigmOdyssey | 01/29/04
protecting bits  nograin | 01/29/04
Yeah, but how tech savvy is Congress  FilledOut | 01/29/04
Congress has done so much damage already....  nograin | 01/29/04
So true  FilledOut | 02/01/04
P2P and Legal Downloads Will Kill CDs  cybershoplifter | 01/29/04
CDs are very very usable.  ParadigmOdyssey | 01/29/04
Bad move on their part...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/29/04
Bad news for many industries then  tic swayback | 01/29/04
Oh really?  WhoIsDaMan | 01/29/04
modern P2P companies are NOT pawn shops,  ryusen | 01/30/04
Decentralised is the great lie.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/29/04

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