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By Paul Festa
Posted on ZDNet News: Feb 10, 2004 1:00:00 AM

Ten months after landing in a fierce trademark dispute with a fellow open-source organization, the Mozilla Foundation has changed the name of its standalone browser from Firebird to Firefox.

The new browser--meant to be a streamlined version of the present Mozilla browser, which has been criticized because of its size--has gone through three names before even reaching Version 1.0.


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The original name "Phoenix" encountered trademark difficulties, so Mozilla renamed it "Firebird," sometimes considered a synonym for the self-immolating, immortal bird.

Then Mozilla got an earful from the Firebird relational database open-source development project. That group was concerned that confusion would result from the name, even though one applied to a database and the other a browser.

Mozilla at first stonewalled but later yielded under pressure from the older Firebird's development community.

But even the concession Mozilla made at that point--to refer to the browser strictly as "Mozilla Firebird"--didn't resolve the issue. A subsequent decision to adopt the name "Firefox" also ran into trouble when Mozilla found that a U.K. company held the rights to that trademark. Some months passed before Mozilla could reach an agreement to use the mark in the United Kingdom. A Mozilla representative declined to disclose the company or the terms of that agreement.

With Firefox, Mozilla hopes to put its trademark difficulties behind it.

"We've learned a lot about choosing names in the past year (more than we would have liked to)," the foundation wrote in an online posting about the name change. "We have been very careful in researching the name to ensure that we will not have any problems down the road. We have begun the process of registering our new trademark with the U.S. Patent and Trademark office."

With the U.K. situation resolved, Mozilla's latest name choice looks unlikely to invite trademark challenges. Firefox.com is occupied by a work of fiction, in progress, called "The Quailish Saga." Other endeavors using the name include a fireworks manufacturer and a vehicular fire-prevention technology provider.

A firefox is another name for the red panda, a red-furred, endangered mammal related to the giant panda and found in the Himalayas, China and Myanmar.

The existing Firebird open-source project lauded Mozilla on the name change.

"It's all come out very happily," said Ann Harrison, chief technology officer at Firebird organizer IBPhoenix (no relationship to Phoenix Technologies, which presented the initial trademark challenge to Mozilla). "They agreed last fall that they were going to change the name, and it took a little longer than anyone hoped. But they postponed the release (until the U.K. trademark agreement was reached), which was just spectacular of them, and we are thrilled."

In addition to announcing the name change, Mozilla released version 0.8 of the software, calling it a milestone toward the foundation's first end user-oriented release. Before being spun off by America Online parent Time Warner as the Mozilla Foundation, Mozilla considered itself a technology group that was used by AOL's Netcape Communications unit to create user-friendly products.

New to the release are features including a download manager, bookmark improvements, and enhancements to Mozilla "extensions," small applets that do things such as remove ad banners, check spelling and search popular sites.

Mozilla said few people are buying its newly added telephone support option, but the company contended that the service is worth maintaining to bolster corporate confidence in the browser. Mozilla also plans to launch a new e-mail-based support service.

Firefox 1.0 should be finished by the end of the first half of the year, along with its companion e-mail client, called Thunderbird.

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it may be really hard
The English langueage has some 800,000 words. Add to that words from foreign language (FireFox is an international effort after all) and you'll understand why the task may be hard.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: z_darius@... Posted on: 02/12/04 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Mozilla and OpenOffice  JWatson77 | 02/09/04
Re: Mozilla and OO  Christian_<>< | 02/09/04
If Mozilla is so bad...  B.O.F.H. | 02/09/04
I'll take a stab at it.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/09/04
They're not!  ShadeTree | 02/10/04
re: They're not!  B.O.F.H. | 02/10/04
"The browser does not work with a lot of websites"  IT_User | 02/09/04
I bet I know.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/09/04
LOL  Suicida| | 02/09/04
grrrrr  leiam | 02/09/04
requirements  leiam | 02/09/04
Dont forget  Suicida| | 02/09/04
Troll... NWOR  doe_z | 02/09/04
Why bother with a reply?  skeptic tank | 02/09/04
Message has been deleted.  dicktaurus@... | 02/09/04
Tell you what, then...  troutmaskreplica | 02/09/04
Oh, what...  Yen_z | 02/09/04
Oh, ye...  IT_User | 02/10/04
DARN that Google.  Yen_z | 02/10/04
Hmm...  Suicida| | 02/09/04
BS  Suicida| | 02/09/04
FUD  CobraA1 | 02/10/04
Obviously you haven't used Mozzila then  voska | 02/10/04
You're absolutely right  IT_User | 02/09/04
Its called 'respect' something the Free Software people do NOT have  Christian_<>< | 02/09/04
Beg pardon?  John L. Ries | 02/09/04
Re: pardon  Christian_<>< | 02/09/04
I said no such thing  John L. Ries | 02/09/04
might even be good  leiam | 02/09/04
just the same  in-DUH-vidual | 02/09/04
O_o  leiam | 02/09/04
Yeah such junk  nucrash | 02/09/04
Re: NO one uses it, so how could there be problems  Christian_<>< | 02/09/04
umm...  leiam | 02/09/04
How many users?  The-Bytemaster | 02/10/04
55% of Websites hits are from Mozzilla  voska | 02/10/04
55% of what website hits?  IT_User | 02/10/04
It is called  michael-t | 02/09/04
You're one to talk.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/09/04
Go away troller...  troutmaskreplica | 02/09/04
Stop whining; go see your mommy, twerp.(NT)  dicktaurus@... | 02/09/04
Self description eh? souther_ (nt)  Update victim | 02/10/04
Firefox 0.8  Joe Blow_z | 02/09/04
What???  Fred Fredrickson | 02/09/04
you can  leiam | 02/09/04
What browser did you download -- Not Firefox!  The-Bytemaster | 02/10/04
Whatever you have, it's defnitely not Firefox!  CobraA1 | 02/10/04
I think it must be a bug on the 1st run after installation  gath | 02/10/04
that's odd  CobraA1 | 02/10/04
I think you broke IE and  prong@... | 02/10/04
Message has been deleted.  Christian_<>< | 02/09/04
You run Linux?  OhMyGosh | 02/09/04
Re: linux  Christian_<>< | 02/09/04
What are you talking about  copygod74 | 02/09/04
IE is the CORPORATE standard?  IT_User | 02/09/04
Yeah, you know...  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/09/04
IE isn't W3C compliant!  CobraA1 | 02/10/04
The corporate standard for hackers  tekace4 | 02/10/04
linux and mozilla  Louis Ross Focke | 02/10/04
basic buttons???  leiam | 02/09/04
So Very True...  in-DUH-vidual | 02/09/04
uhhh  leiam | 02/09/04
Chill Dude  in-DUH-vidual | 02/09/04
Maturity  michael-t | 02/09/04
Firefox is back to basics  tekace4 | 02/10/04
LOL  CobraA1 | 02/10/04
Hey souther_pride ...  MeadMkr | 02/10/04
inform moderator instead  Nullifidian | 02/10/04
Well, this proves...  BitTwiddler | 02/10/04
He's flipped my bozo bit, too. can we ignore him?  DanIelWalker_z | 02/10/04
Firefox = Flaming terds  JohnW_z | 02/10/04
Perhaps you should get a child of 3 to help you then!  B.O.F.H. | 02/10/04
This will be a moot point next year  John L. Ries | 02/09/04
only if only...  leiam | 02/09/04
They should have called it "Nuclear Frog."  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 02/09/04
try writing a song  leiam | 02/09/04
thats close to...  in-DUH-vidual | 02/09/04
english  leiam | 02/09/04
all languages  in-DUH-vidual | 02/09/04
nah  leiam | 02/10/04
Clint Eastwood next in trademark dispute?  chrichton99 | 02/09/04
Yeah,  Martin Marvinski | 02/09/04
No, but Craig Thomas might be.  Fred Fredrickson | 02/10/04
Just remember: "Think in Russian"  DanIelWalker_z | 02/10/04
Confusion.  vdraken | 02/10/04
Re: souther_pride  Martin Marvinski | 02/09/04
life of the party  in-DUH-vidual | 02/09/04
Unfortunately...  BitTwiddler | 02/10/04
Re: pics  Suicida| | 02/09/04
you should try  leiam | 02/10/04
Yeah, he's trolling ...... and firebird looks nice, but  el1jones | 02/10/04
I agree  Mack DaNife | 02/10/04
WOW  bhanes@... | 02/10/04
so... There are several  princessangry | 02/10/04
A typical junkware  pa2004 | 02/10/04
Well, it works  IT_User | 02/10/04
Atypical junkware - indeed!  Fred Fredrickson | 02/10/04
well...  leiam | 02/10/04
As a matter of fact ...  pa2004 | 02/10/04
no one can...  leiam | 02/10/04
Netscape or Mosaic?  IT_User | 02/10/04
IE has tabbed browsing?!  el1jones | 02/10/04
opera  leiam | 02/10/04
oh... Thanks(nt)  el1jones | 02/10/04
I installed it and it works  voska | 02/10/04
eating away at ms market share????  civilised | 02/10/04
Hmmmmm.  bhanes@... | 02/10/04
mozilla probably best software i've ever used  myxner | 02/11/04
Why don't you try it first  z_darius@... | 02/12/04
Who actually needs this?  vdraken | 02/10/04
I have the same uncertainty  IT_User | 02/10/04
Its something new to try!  Nullifidian | 02/10/04
Browser only... nothing to get in the way.  The-Bytemaster | 02/10/04
Speed  boxmonkey | 02/10/04
putting off upgrading isn't always best  leiam | 02/11/04
Just moved another client from IE to Mozilla.  Yen_z | 02/10/04
A common trend  Nullifidian | 02/10/04
How hard can picking an original name be?  SteveProgrammer | 02/10/04
it may be really hard  z_darius@... | 02/12/04

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