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By Brendon Chase
Posted on ZDNet News: Jun 4, 2004 4:23:00 PM

Sun Microsystems has followed up an announcement that its Solaris server operating system will have an open-source flavor with a similar promise for its Java technology.

Raghavan Srinivas, Java technology evangelist for Sun, told CNET Networks' Builder AU that an open-source version of Java "will happen" but declined to elaborate on time lines or specifics of license arrangements.


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"We haven't worked out how to open-source Java--but at some point, it will happen," Srinivas said. "It might be today, tomorrow or two years down the road."

It is believed to be the first time Sun has explicitly stated its intention to make the Java programming language open source. Sun representatives have previously said Java is open enough under its current format and that moving to an open-source model would encourage incompatible versions of the technology.

On Wednesday, the company's president and chief operating officer, Jonathan Schwartz, said Sun plans to bring its proprietary Solaris software to the open-source world. But he, too, declined to give a timetable for the shift.

Sun has been intermittently warming to the opportunities presented by open-source software, the best-known example of which is the increasingly popular Linux operating system. Open source gives Sun a tool with which to undercut rival software maker Microsoft but also poses a competitive threat to Sun itself.

The Java community is split over whether open-sourcing Java would be beneficial.

Earlier this year, free-software advocate Richard Stallman and open-source leader Eric Raymond both called on Sun to open-source the Java technology in order to give it greater acceptance within the developer community and allow programmers freedom to exploit its potential. IBM, which arguably has a greater financial interest in the Java platform than Sun, also has called on Sun to make Java open source.

But others, including Sun, believe that the biggest hurdle and concern is the future of the Java brand and compatibility. The main fear is that Java technologies could be forked and the "write once, run anywhere" attraction to Java would be lost, making the programming language and platform less attractive. Many see the current Java Community Process, the set of procedures by which companies submit and collaborate on improvements to the Java software, as an imperfect but necessary system.

Brendon Chase of Builder AU reported from Sydney.

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?What makes you say that? Do you have any examples of open
source programs that have "forked many times over"? Let's see
now. Apache. How many times has that forked? Zero. Linux?
Zero. (N... (Read the rest)
Posted by: P. Douglas Posted on: 06/07/04 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
And this pays the stockholders how?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/04/04
Sun really just sells hardware  Rembrandt Pussyhorse | 06/04/04
Same way they get cash from OOo  nucrash | 06/04/04
think investors would come if  V Sanders | 06/04/04
Yes  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/04/04
I don't plan to invest  V Sanders | 06/06/04
Sorry, but it hasn't worked for them yet.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/04/04
care to describe how closed source has helped them?  oldskool | 06/04/04
Solaris is free???? Not anywhere I can see.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/06/04
They are giving it away for free right now.  DonnieBoy | 06/04/04
Maybe that's the problem  seosamh_z | 06/04/04
No, the problem is...  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/04/04
That's not the way it works  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
I already explained that.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/05/04
Doesn't make it any more correct  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
Open source Java would rule...  prime21 | 06/04/04
I do worry about incapatabilities  nucrash | 06/04/04
that is the best part  V Sanders | 06/04/04
then again  V Sanders | 06/04/04
..would rule Java  seosamh_z | 06/04/04
Alternative implementations drive progress, single source stagnates ideas  oldskool | 06/04/04
Don't think it's so black and white  seosamh_z | 06/04/04
innovation by a more understood name is PROTECTIONISM  oldskool | 06/04/04
Don't be silly  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
Not according to Scott's latest response  Iain_Peters | 06/04/04
next announcement will be they open sourced Scott!  oldskool | 06/04/04
what?  V Sanders | 06/04/04
The battle with Microsoft was to stop MS from polluting it...  Plain Logic | 06/04/04
How would that work now?  seosamh_z | 06/04/04
Did I miss something?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/04/04
Yes  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
Now you're arguing in bad faith.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/05/04
You live up to my expectation of you  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
no  V Sanders | 06/06/04
You Are Correct  P. Douglas | 06/05/04
Damn, I was going to say that happy (NT)  seosamh_z | 06/05/04
Well stated  rapson | 06/05/04
You are incorrect.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/05/04
Be Careful How You Bend Your Perspective  P. Douglas | 06/07/04
(Reposting Message Because of Links)  P. Douglas | 06/07/04
If you can't compete against MS, hitch a ride on the OSS choo choo train ..  P. Douglas | 06/04/04
That IS how to compete with Microsoft.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/05/04
That's not outsmarting anybody  seosamh_z | 06/06/04
Once again, you're just arguing against your own straw man.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/06/04
Whatever you say.  seosamh_z | 06/06/04
Oooh, someday  FilledOut | 06/05/04
Yes, just hand it over to IBM. NOT!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/06/04
I used to love  V Sanders | 06/06/04

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