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By Stephen Shankland
Posted on ZDNet News: Jul 9, 2004 11:25:00 PM

The SCO Group, which sued IBM over its treatment of the Unix and Linux operating systems, this week accused Big Blue of failing to release required documents.

SCO on Tuesday filed a "renewed" motion to compel IBM to release more memos from executives, source code underlying many IBM versions of Unix, and details about programmers involved with Unix and Linux. "IBM has failed to comply with its discovery obligations and the court's order," attorneys for the Lindon, Utah, company said in the filing.

In its motion, SCO said IBM has provided "only a limited number of well-filtered documents" from Chief Executive Sam Palmisano and nothing from Irving Wladawsky-Berger, the executive responsible for launching IBM's push.

"IBM should be ordered to comply with the court's March 3, 2004, order by providing the full files of Mr. Palmisano, Mr. Wladawsky-Berger, IBM's board, including board minutes, board packages and other relevant board materials, and all other documents relevant to SCO's requests that this court previously ordered IBM to produce," the filing said. IBM also should produce source code for all versions of its current and former Unix products, SCO said.

IBM attorneys are reviewing the filings but declined to comment, spokesman Mike Darcy said.

The lawsuit, which argues that IBM violated its Unix contract with SCO by moving proprietary Unix technology to open-source Linux, is one of several cases SCO launched to profit from the popularity of Linux by arguing it infringes SCO's Unix intellectual property. Novell--an earlier Unix owner, current Linux seller and another SCO lawsuit target--argues it still owns the Unix copyrights. SCO's claim to own Unix is key to its lawsuits.

SCO is seeking more than $5 billion in damages from IBM. The case is scheduled for a five-week trial beginning Nov. 1, 2005, in the U.S. District Court in Utah.

On Thursday, SCO raised the prospect of even more discovery--the information requests that precede a trial--including depositions of Linux leader Linus Torvalds and other Linux programmers.

Specifically, SCO said it will need more information if the court retains in the suit a March claim in which IBM seeks a declaration that its Linux activities haven't infringed SCO copyrights.

"SCO does not intend to depose thousands of contributors worldwide to determine who made material contributions to Linux," said a Thursday declaration by John Harrop, an attorney for SCO law firm Andrews Kurth, but SCO does want information from Torvalds.

SCO wants Torvalds' "knowledge about the contributors and contributions to Linux since its inception, and the maintenance of any records about the development history of Linux. Mr. Torvalds is expected to have detailed records of these contributors and their contributions, material that is not publicly available," Kurth said.

In addition, SCO wants to obtain information from "maintainers," the senior programmers responsible for various parts of Linux; from IBM partners; and from private groups that have contributed to Linux.

SCO also wants to depose IBM programmers who worked on IBM's current AIX version of Unix and the Dynix/ptx version formerly sold by Sequent, a company IBM acquired. Among those it wants to depose are AIX engineer Dave Kleinkamp and Dynix engineers Paul McKenney, Brent Kingsbury, Gerrit Huizenga and Jack Vogel.

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then why are we more concerned with Saddam than Osama? The Guy who's addmited to being th eone responsible doesn't get nerly as much attention as a Guy who's might have had some incidental connection... (Read the rest)
Posted by: ryusen Posted on: 07/14/04 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
In other words  jdunn_z | 07/09/04
Flip the coin  Linux User 147560 | 07/09/04
RE:Flip the coin  nite_w0lf | 07/09/04
That is what I said  Linux User 147560 | 07/09/04
Is this the same SCO?  IT_User | 07/09/04
This is the SCO...  Mike Cox | 07/09/04
Mike is right believe it or not...  sbj | 07/09/04
sorry...  sbj | 07/09/04
And this is dangerous how?  Linux User 147560 | 07/09/04
fantasy  sbj | 07/09/04
Actually, this is SCO Group  B.O.F.H. | 07/09/04
heh  CobraA1 | 07/11/04
The last chance to kill Linux.  Chris Moller | 07/12/04
8.0  UncleBubba | 07/12/04
the same SCO  cygnet@... | 07/11/04
News ZDNet kisses MS a##  Richard Flude | 07/09/04
This case must be heard...  Mike Cox | 07/09/04
This case must should be heard if...  sbj | 07/09/04
This case should be heard if...  sbj | 07/09/04
This case must be heard...  IT_User | 07/09/04
you miss the point  sbj | 07/09/04
re: This case must be heard  giltjr@... | 07/09/04
claims that SCO is making  sbj | 07/09/04
... Must be heard in order to CRUSH SCO  dicktaurus@... | 07/10/04
10+  nucrash | 07/12/04
Mikey your pathetic  drichards1953 | 07/12/04
You do recognize statire, right?  shallow_diver | 07/12/04
Mike Cox  Durok58 | 07/12/04
Great Scott!!!  UncleBubba | 07/12/04
The Article needs to ephasize  ryusen | 07/09/04
News: SCO requests Bush to testify on ...  Plain Logic | 07/09/04
It's a sad commentary on our legal system  Chad_z | 07/09/04
Amen baby!  sbj | 07/09/04
There are two ways to look at it...  bc_bc | 07/09/04
Depends on your view of the legal system.  Outside T. Box | 07/11/04
SCO is trading on the Court's lack of knowledge  drichards1953 | 07/12/04
Microsoft is going to be sued out of existence for this!  Jeff Spicoli | 07/09/04
Michael Moore and SCO  RobertoSalazar | 07/09/04
You are Just Silly  Bill_gates_Is_SATAN | 07/10/04
Bush = Linux? Yes, sort of.  Linux_Developer | 07/11/04
re: Michael Moore and SCO  bgoss@... | 07/10/04
Or maybe...  swoopee | 07/12/04
So you're also a Ditto-head dumba**, as well?!? Figures.  dicktaurus@... | 07/10/04
Anti AMERICAN? Try GW Bush and company  Laff | 07/12/04
Or try Michael Moore.  Linux_Developer | 07/12/04
Putting off the elections is NOT anit American?  Laff | 07/12/04
You never explained why it is.  Linux_Developer | 07/12/04
Putting off an election ( the corner stone of democracy and freedom) is  Laff | 07/12/04
I've NEVER seen an Moore movie..nor do I intend too  Laff | 07/12/04
Exactly! Right on the Point(NT)  voska | 07/12/04
Why are either Anti-American?  voska | 07/12/04
explain how it's protecting the American people?  ryusen | 07/12/04
I think he's given up.....  Laff | 07/12/04
It would mess up the terrorists' plans...  Linux_Developer | 07/12/04
messing up the terrorist's plans...  ryusen | 07/12/04
Re: messing up the terrorist's plans...  Linux_Developer | 07/12/04
re:  ryusen | 07/12/04
re (2):  Linux_Developer | 07/13/04
Correction  Linux_Developer | 07/13/04
THERE WERE NO SADDAM NUKES!!!  Laff | 07/13/04
Our troops have fought the war on terror like nobody's business.  Laff | 07/13/04
re: re: (3.14)  ryusen | 07/13/04
Also...remember it is all too easy to say things like  Laff | 07/12/04
It would only be un-democratic if he CANCELED the elections.  Linux_Developer | 07/12/04
Um what Nuclear Weapons?  Laff | 07/12/04
One other thing I would have done....  Laff | 07/12/04
and how long can they be post poned?  ryusen | 07/12/04
Watch what you say  tic swayback | 07/12/04
you're wrong tic...  ryusen | 07/12/04
Oh crap.  tic swayback | 07/12/04
what has Michael Moore done that is anti-American?  ryusen | 07/12/04
Elections  mrlinux | 07/12/04
With the possible exception of a nation wide total disaster taking millions  Laff | 07/12/04
to be fair to the living...  ryusen | 07/12/04
True..but a nation wide stopage should not be considered!  Laff | 07/12/04
i agree with you on all points, but...  ryusen | 07/12/04
From a previous post....  Laff | 07/12/04
Who benefits?  tic swayback | 07/12/04
If a bomb(s) goes off in this country it has to reflect on GW's war on  Laff | 07/12/04
both sides of the spin:  ryusen | 07/12/04
That's really the question  tic swayback | 07/12/04
What concerns me is how far the fanatics in the Bush camp will go!!!  Laff | 07/12/04
not just Bush...  ryusen | 07/12/04
Sorry but this is bugging the crap outta me...  Linux User 147560 | 07/12/04
Sorry...slept through most of my classes especially English.  Laff | 07/13/04
Re "not just Bush"  Laff | 07/13/04
understand...  ryusen | 07/13/04
AMEN..Brother ZZ, AMEN!  Laff | 07/13/04
Re: Al Qaeda wants Bush in office  Linux_Developer | 07/13/04
that would be the theory...  ryusen | 07/13/04
Linux D....does not fully understand the Cell structure.  Laff | 07/14/04
What's the alternative?  Linux_Developer | 07/14/04
fighting the source...  ryusen | 07/14/04
The first step to winning this war is respect and dignity.  Laff | 07/14/04
I mean WON! My bad..Hey I caught one..Yay for me!  Laff | 07/14/04
Yep! I can just see his next movie: The 9/11 Bazaar.  Linux_Developer | 07/12/04
You got it wrong! Moore would support Linus!  drichards1953 | 07/12/04
Bush Fanatics/Linux Fanatics, Anti-American/Anti-American, Nazis/Communists  Linux_Developer | 07/12/04
I too am a rebel. I rebel against anything someone tells me I HAVE TOO DO!  Laff | 07/13/04
but.. but...  ryusen | 07/13/04
Moore already has a new project--HMO's  drichards1953 | 07/12/04
I think Michael Moore is Pro American  voska | 07/12/04
ZDNET quotes only the SCO side...  cuboctahedron2004 | 07/10/04
Alexis who?  Linux User 147560 | 07/10/04
Re: Alexis who?  Cardinal_Bill | 07/10/04
Only one side? Here's why...  Fred Fredrickson | 07/10/04
ROFLMAO!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/11/04
You gotta give it too Fred:)  Laff | 07/12/04
of "coarse" *grin*  ryusen | 07/12/04
LMAO!! You know I did not get that until Linux User's post above:)  Laff | 07/13/04
ooops...  ryusen | 07/13/04
ZDNet is hopeless  Franklin_z | 07/10/04
But what about  Linux User 147560 | 07/10/04
Is it info they want, or time?  rharvey46 | 07/10/04
YEAH ZDNET IS SLANTED  ickusslime@... | 07/10/04
why is this so hard  V Sanders | 07/10/04
Thats because...  ickusslime@... | 07/10/04
Maybe because there is NO code too show?  Laff | 07/12/04
(NT) www.groklaw.net - 'Nuff Said  BanjoPaterson | 07/11/04
(NT) Completely agree happy  CobraA1 | 07/11/04
The fishing expedition continues...  BitTwiddler | 07/12/04
Who should provide what source code?  chug_z | 07/12/04
Caldera incorporated Linux code into OpenUnix 8  jfalknor | 07/12/04

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