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Posted on ZDNet News: Apr 28, 2005 11:00:00 AM

SEATTLE--Although Microsoft is recommending that computers be pretty modern to fully run the next version of Windows, Longhorn will probably also run on a good number of older machines.

That's the good news. The bad news is that Longhorn is going to look and run quite differently on those older systems. Computers with a 3GHz processor and 512MB of memory, for example, will get all of the bells and whistles including fancy graphics and the ability to handle multiple video streams. According to its early testing, Microsoft says that older PCs--probably those with as little as 128MB of memory--will be able to run Longhorn, but the OS may not look like it does on a newer, more powerful machine.

Many of these older machines that run Longhorn will have experiences that are "quite XP-like," said Richard Russell, a developer in Microsoft's Windows core operating system division.

"XP is XP is XP... Longhorn is much different. It will really scale."
--Richard Russell
developer, Microsoft

There are at least four different levels of graphics for the new Windows. Two of them--Aero and Aero Glass--will have new composited graphics, with the high-end Glass shell adding more three-dimensional effects and transitions. Another view, dubbed "To Go" is designed for laptops and other new consumer machines and has many of the same color schemes as Aero, but not the fancy graphics tricks. Finally, a classic mode will look much like XP or even Windows 2000.

But there are performance differences as well, with more-capable systems able to do more things in the new OS.

That represents a big philosophical shift for Microsoft. With past versions of Windows, including Windows XP, the operating system typically either ran on a machine in all its glory or didn't run at all.

"XP is XP is XP," Russell said. "Longhorn is much different. It will really scale."

Such variability poses a couple of challenges for the software giant. First, it has to educate businesses and consumers that being able to run Longhorn does not equate to being fully able to take advantage of all of its features. To that end, Microsoft is planning a new logo program for PCs that will separately identify machines that are optimized for Longhorn as opposed to those that are merely capable of loading the OS. The company also is working on a program that lets computer makers designate a PC as "Longhorn-ready."

A second challenge, which Microsoft said it is already planning to address, is putting the burden on the software to figure out what settings are most appropriate to the type of machine one has.

Russell said Microsoft will ensure that when people upgrade to Longhorn, settings are optimized for their machines, though users will still have the ability to change those settings.

"We don't want users to have to hunt and peck to find out if they can run (Aero) Glass," he said. Similarly, computer makers are encouraged to set defaults relative to the capabilities of their machines, though again, consumers can change those settings.

Directions on Microsoft analyst Michael Cherry believes Microsoft was too vague with its guidance on which hardware is needed for which features. Though the company offered some detail on processor and memory requirements, Cherry said, businesses still may not have enough information to know which graphics cards to look for on a new PC. He added that he was disappointed Microsoft doesn't have the "Longhorn-ready" guidelines already ironed out so that corporations can buy PCs now and know whether they will be good for the new OS.

"I don't understand why, at a hardware show, they aren't ready to give us the Longhorn-ready specification today," he said.

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Good  Real World | 04/28/05
"Educating" businesses....  Jomo_z | 04/28/05
While we're at it  Real World | 04/28/05
Just Checking  altacom | 05/04/05
Sadly, PHBs will do as you say.  fmcgowan | 04/28/05
I won't have to worry about londong  Network Support | 05/08/05
Excellent job to include scaling, Microsoft !!  Prognosticator | 04/28/05
That's nice... but...  Zogg | 04/28/05
Good news for who?  Chad_z | 04/28/05
Agree on a few (1) of your points  Prognosticator | 04/28/05
some good hashish there eh?  Jeff Spicoli | 04/28/05
Good thoughts, bad logic  mggordon | 04/28/05
Staying with old hardware  gsuser | 04/28/05
That's right, why did we need the space shuttle?  frdbadf@... | 04/28/05
What OS do you run?  toadlife | 04/29/05
The Latest and the Greatest--Indeed!  Lisanne001 | 04/28/05
Oh..Lisa...  Prognosticator | 04/28/05
Agreed, it is about WANT  mggordon | 04/28/05
Preach on sista!  Linux User 147560 | 04/28/05
Is this for us or for them  Mr Shaun Warburton | 04/28/05
Yeah, it'll "run" alright..like a doped fat cow in slo-mo sludge!  Jeff Spicoli | 04/28/05
I run WinXP on an old ThinkPad 600e  BitTwiddler | 04/28/05
I run XP over with my car.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/28/05
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XP is XP is XP?  nucrash | 04/28/05
Excellent question for AMD fans  mmmccall07 | 04/28/05
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XP on 128MB  jcoffey | 04/28/05
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XP rebooting  johnrich | 04/29/05
128? WTF???  Fujifilm Frontier | 04/30/05
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running on XP with only 96mb  charlescandy | 04/29/05
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Win 98  Network Support | 05/09/05
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Makes sense  Michael Kelly | 04/28/05
scaling means scaling  NemesisNL | 04/28/05
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time to switch platforms, eh Bit?  Jeff Spicoli | 04/28/05
i keep my linux and windows boxes on a strudy platform...  linuxoverwindows | 04/28/05
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I knew what he was saying  osreinstall | 04/28/05
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LOLROTF happy  pundamentalist | 04/28/05
So much Eye candy  osreinstall | 04/28/05
So much Eye candy  lfloyd@... | 04/28/05
at work  bradb@... | 04/28/05
The Money  lfloyd@... | 04/29/05
Why not just get a Mac?  FallGuy7254 | 05/02/05
And that's what pisses me off  I_am_hellion_z | 04/28/05
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Nifty graphics sells !  Prognosticator | 04/28/05
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Looking... like crashing?  FirstNLastN | 04/28/05
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Could this be any more irrelevant?  cdndave | 04/28/05
The tech world no longer revolves around MSFT  Chad_z | 04/29/05
Help desk in large corporations  davidr69 | 04/28/05
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Longhorn  Oscar55 | 04/28/05
Upgrades  wilbur24 | 04/28/05
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upgrade from xp to an xp like system...  linuxoverwindows | 04/28/05
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its also a big bull.  linuxoverwindows | 04/28/05
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It won't run on my PC as I switched to Mac OS X.4  JohnMelone@... | 04/28/05
S.F.W. ???  jrbeaman | 04/28/05
bad day???  jasontheodd | 04/29/05
Get a new system with new OS  zeusfuse | 04/28/05
i dont have problems with windows either...  linuxoverwindows | 04/28/05
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Longhorn wont run on my computer  doh123 | 04/28/05
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If you really like your DOS..  magpie_z | 04/30/05
Run Longhorn?  nightshade0143 | 04/28/05
Longhorn  bwchato | 04/28/05
Longhorn? Schlonghorn?  gmattheus | 04/28/05
That is funny  gAmEpLaYa | 04/28/05
3 GHZ cpu huh  crashoverride | 04/28/05
Enough with the gobbledegook  ghawkins@... | 04/28/05
something fishy  magpie_z | 04/30/05
microsoft  chucktown | 04/28/05
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MS is full of IT  gAmEpLaYa | 04/28/05
MCE...  magpie_z | 04/30/05
Just more features to disable  mad.mutt | 04/28/05
give me a break  gAmEpLaYa | 04/29/05
have you considered...  magpie_z | 04/30/05
FreeBSD and Linux make windows irrelevant.  teckk@... | 04/29/05
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Hold on there bucko  osreinstall | 04/30/05
Answers  IT Scion | 05/02/05
Correction  jolumoar | 04/29/05
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huh...  magpie_z | 04/30/05
So what? money should be well spent!  ghostpsychlops | 04/29/05
afraid of what?  magpie_z | 04/30/05
Vapourware! definition  Reverend MacFellow | 04/29/05
WTF OSX !0.4 OUT TODAY, AND ZDNET HAS LONGHORN ON FRONT PAGE????  hipparchus2000 | 04/29/05
HeHe. Who Cares?  admiral39 | 04/29/05
Ooooh the Talkbacks  FilledOut | 04/29/05
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Longhorn - who cares?  john32_z | 04/29/05
Perhaps..  magpie_z | 04/30/05
Who cares?  blackbelt_jones | 04/29/05
Get real  donnellb | 04/29/05
Good and bad  jackjack5 | 04/29/05
not long enough  magpie_z | 04/30/05
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Is it because of the graphics?  Hiro84 | 04/29/05
longhorn  hawaiieye | 04/30/05
My screen name says it all (nt)  MepisLINUXuser | 05/01/05
Today, Microlag announced...  MepisLINUXuser | 05/01/05
Longest pre-release campaign...  MepisLINUXuser | 05/01/05
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Longhorn  Holger178 | 05/01/05
Hardware catalog? There's a better way  alupats | 05/02/05
Not Really  osreinstall | 05/03/05
so this new os will do what?  mweaver99 | 05/03/05
LONGHORN = XP ++  road runner_z | 05/11/05
Big Intrusive Deal _ Go Go Xandros !!!  MicroFedUp | 05/30/05
Shlonghorn not even here yet....  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 07/25/05

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