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By Ina Fried
Posted on ZDNet News: May 3, 2005 8:58:00 PM

Now that Tiger is out of the bag, some Mac software makers say the new cat doesn't play well with others.

Several companies say their networking software isn't compatible with Apple Computer's new operating system, and some blame changes made to the kernel of Mac OS X. A number of the products in question are VPN programs that allow one to connect to a corporate network. Cisco Systems said last week that its VPN software was incompatible with Tiger, the latest version of the Mac OS that went on sale on Friday.

Other networking products are also affected, including two from Thursby Software. Thursby chief technology officer Paul Nelson said that with Tiger, Apple created a new set of kernel programming interfaces that change the way the operating system works with software written directly to its kernel. The move rendered obsolete some longstanding Unix networking program methods, known as Berkeley protocol stacks.

"Now we have to go back and redesign our kernel extensions to work with Tiger, which is a major job for us," Nelson said.

The software maker hopes to have updated versions of its of ADmitMac and DAVE products by August.

Microsoft is also reporting problems with the Virtual Switch networking feature of its Virtual PC software. Also, Microsoft said its zero-configuration printing and ability to launch PC programs via the dock is impacted.

"Microsoft is working closely with Apple to address issues and will put out a patch within two to three months on www.microsoft.com/mac," a Microsoft representative said in an e-mail.

Other vendors have reported problems, as well. Lobotomo Software reported Tiger-related problems with its IPSecuritas VPN software.

Equinux warned on its Web site that its VPN Tracker software also won't work properly with Tiger.

"In extensive tests we confirmed that Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger has a bug that seriously affects the VPN performance," the company said. "Depending on the actual application, the VPN throughput under Tiger is about 50 to 75 percent lower than under Mac OS X 10.3 Panther."

Equinux said it can't solve the problem, calling it a bug in the Tiger kernel. "However, we're closely working with Apple to deliver a fix soon."

Apple declined to comment specifically on what changes were made to Tiger's kernel, but said in a statement late Tuesday that it is "working closely with those few developers that have some work to do to update their applications for Mac OS X Tiger."

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Most of the problems I've ever seen on any network is usually caused by Windows. (Read the rest)
Posted by: creep144 Posted on: 05/21/05 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Suck it up  tic swayback | 05/03/05
But..  MacLinsuxs | 05/03/05
Close enough?  tic swayback | 05/03/05
Beta Testing By Developers?  ericortner | 05/03/05
yeah but  MacLinsuxs | 05/03/05
We're talking MACs, not the number of time MS stole technology.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 05/03/05
You will be de-assimilated, resistance is futile!  Windroid_Deprogrammer | 05/04/05
Yes,  cashaww | 05/04/05
Oh the Hyprocrisy  osreinstall | 05/05/05
This only happens to Microsoft  MacLinsuxs | 05/03/05
The difference is.. MS does it to further it's monopoly.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 05/03/05
And this helped users? Buwhahahahaha  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/03/05
Ultimately, yes...  buddhistMonkey | 05/03/05
How is this any different than SP2?  ye | 05/03/05
Err... these aren't the same at all  jeremy_r_chappell | 05/03/05
Of course it is...  ye | 05/03/05
Tiger is still OS X  voska | 05/04/05
Everyone's a Zealot..  nomorems | 05/04/05
No, it doesn't  Fred Fredrickson | 05/03/05
"Helping"  jeremy_r_chappell | 05/03/05
Apple should have made users more aware...  trinityr3 | 05/04/05
Wide range?  tic swayback | 05/04/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 05/04/05
And Apple is any different?  balsover | 05/03/05
And Apple is any different?  balsover | 05/03/05
Try to keep up  jeremy_r_chappell | 05/03/05
Squawk, Squawk, Polly want a cracker?  tic swayback | 05/03/05
Message has been deleted.  MepisLINUXuser | 05/03/05
That's quite the name...  MepisLINUXuser | 05/04/05
Apple Kindof Started Buggy Software With Mac  andyhayes1 | 05/03/05
The Car is ou of the bag  Mectron | 05/03/05
Just hate it when that car gets ou of the bag....:)  Laff | 05/03/05
Tiger is a different kind of animal  jeremy_r_chappell | 05/03/05
Windows 64 bit will void your warranty...  Fred Fredrickson | 05/04/05
Why so down on Apple?  Richard Flude | 05/03/05
Jealousy  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 05/03/05
Perhaps, certainly disappointed  Richard Flude | 05/03/05
Kicking, screaming, fighting into better quality  mlindl | 05/04/05
Some ppl are polarized  FilledOut | 05/04/05
Crying foul  balsover | 05/03/05
They'd better care.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 05/03/05
Think again  cvw | 05/05/05
I think you're the one who's confused.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 05/05/05
Surprised? This is typical Apple SOP  John Zern | 05/03/05
What the blank are you talking about!?!  Laff | 05/03/05
Hey John.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 05/03/05
Please.  twhitt | 05/05/05
Try the other side  cvw | 05/05/05
Not necessarily...  MacCanuck | 05/05/05
Duhhhhhhhhhhhh.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 05/05/05
Mac/Windows networking  creep144 | 05/21/05
It's about time Cisco upgraded their VPN client anyway.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 05/03/05
Why? Is six weeks too long for you?  UncleBubba | 05/04/05
What the hell are you talking about?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 05/04/05
They had plenty of time to prepare and didn't  buran | 05/03/05
I have to agree because:  jmills@... | 05/03/05
Lack of incentive  Mark Miller | 05/04/05
Until I re-read the subject, I thought this was a Windows article.  HypnoToad | 05/04/05
This is laughable, one little...  MepisLINUXuser | 05/04/05
What about...  cvw | 05/05/05
Numerous?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 05/05/05
Wait'll they see how Bobcat plugs their holes!  Jeff Spicoli | 05/04/05
Windroid_Deprogrammer = MepisLINUXuser  Windroid_Deprogrammer | 05/04/05
Q: Does Apple have its own custom kernel?  Roger Ramjet | 05/04/05
A: No  rkadowns | 05/04/05
Sorry  rkadowns | 05/04/05
Open Source is a DEADLY concept  rsmith77 | 05/04/05
Take a deep breath  rkadowns | 05/04/05
hmm this is the fourth version right?  zeusfuse | 05/04/05
That's why there is a developer program...  BitTwiddler | 05/04/05
Developers and Money  Wenchismine | 05/04/05
These people seem to have figured it out  tic swayback | 05/04/05
Tiger is still in infancy, Apple will add a standard helper API  PhilippeV | 05/04/05

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