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Posted on ZDNet News: Jun 20, 2005 11:00:00 AM

After two decades of successfully steering clear of Microsoft, Adobe Systems is edging closer to the software giant's crosshairs.

Since its launch in 1982, when Microsoft was 7 years old, Adobe has built up a commanding lead in the markets for digital document and image editing software, among the few areas in PC software Microsoft has failed to dominate.

Microsoft's test release last week of the Acrylic graphic design tool and the demonstration of its Metro digital document format indicate that the company may be growing less tolerant of Adobe as it encroaches on Microsoft's turf with the proposed acquisition of Macromedia and its Flash and Flex framework for building Web-based applications.

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After two decades of successfully steering clear of Microsoft, Adobe Systems, with its pending buyout of Macromedia, is edging closer to the software giant's crosshairs.

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With the next version of Windows--Longhorn--delayed; the graphic design tool Acrylic still in a test version and earning mixed reviews; and digital document format Metro tied to Longhorn's fate, many see plenty of breathing room for Adobe. Still, Microsoft has clearly become ill at ease with Adobe, and Microsoft is Microsoft.

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The combined forces of Adobe's PDF and Macromedia's Flash particularly, say analysts, have brightened the bull's-eye on the San Jose, Calif., graphics software company.

"Microsoft is already showing signs that Flash is more than just an annoyance," said Burton Group analyst Gary Hein. "Announcements like Metro, Avalon and Acrylic show that Microsoft is taking Adobe plus Macromedia much more seriously. (Adobe Chief Executive Bruce) Chizen should be worried."

In the race to sell technology for building Web-based applications, the competitive landscape is far from stable. Microsoft has described its vision of Windows applications integrated tightly into the Internet through the company's Longhorn operating system, but numerous delays have allowed alternatives such as Flash and "AJAX" to gain traction.

Adobe declined to comment on the strategic implications of its proposed acquisition. But Macromedia called "ridiculous" the idea that it is competing with Microsoft's operating system at all.

"I don't think Flash is any threat to Windows," said Kevin Lynch, chief software architect for Macromedia. "We're a really small company compared to Microsoft. Flash is specifically designed for Internet use, for Internet applications, and that's very different from an operating system."

Analysts take a different view of the strategic importance of Flash, and compare it to the threat the Web posed to Windows before Microsoft launched its defensive, ultimately successful campaign with the Internet Explorer browser 10 years ago.

"I'd agree that Flash is not a direct threat to the OS, but it's a threat to portions of the OS" such as developers' tools, said Hein. "It's kind of like the old Netscape push in that if you can develop all of your apps in a browser, it makes the OS less relevant."

Unlike Netscape, which came to Microsoft's attention as a head-on threat, Adobe has made its living over the years by dominating areas Microsoft tended to neglect. Until now.

"For Adobe, competition with Microsoft is its manifest destiny," said Jesse James Garrett, a consultant with the San Francisco consulting company Adaptive Path, which works with Macromedia. "The Macromedia acquisition makes Adobe a threat that Microsoft can no longer afford to ignore."

For their part, Microsoft executives play down the competition, or as they like to call it, the "coopetition." For years, Microsoft has both competed and partnered with a number of other companies, ranging from database maker Oracle to Intuit, the leader in financial software for consumers and small businesses. Adobe, even with Macromedia, is no different. "There are certain areas where our products overlap. At the same time, Adobe and Macromedia are important partners for us," says John Montgomery, director of product management in Microsoft's developer division.

Assuming Adobe completes its acquisition of Macromedia, the combined company competes with Microsoft in three product areas.

In image editing, Adobe leads the market with its tightly integrated Photoshop and Illustrator applications. Microsoft last week released a test version of Acrylic, a vector- and pixel-based image creation and editing software title, though Montgomery downplays the direct competition.

In digital documents, Adobe rules the roost with PDF (Portable Document Format). The core of what the company calls its Intelligent Document Platform, PDF is widely considered the industry standard, in widespread use in government and the enterprise. (Adobe makes a point of noting, in its PDF fact sheet, that Microsoft applications Word, Excel, and PowerPoint all produce PDF files with the click of a button.)

Microsoft showed off its answer to PDF, called Metro, last month, as part of a demonstration of the capabilities of its upcoming, and late, Longhorn operating system.

In Web-based application platform technology, Flash and the recently introduced Flex server software have begun making inroads in the enterprise. Meanwhile, the world awaits even a test version of Longhorn amid continued evidence that Microsoft is having significant difficulty driving upgrades to newer operating systems.

With Longhorn late, Acrylic still in a test version and earning mixed reviews on developer forums, and Metro tied to Longhorn's fate, many see plenty of breathing room for Adobe and its intended acquisition target. Illustrator and Photoshop, part of Adobe's recently updated Creative Suite 2 package, are seen as all but invulnerable for the foreseeable future.

"It seems to us that the likelihood of prying creative pro customers away from either Adobe product, especially with the advances delivered in the new Creative Suite 2 releases, is not high at all," wrote Merill Lynch equity analyst Jay Vleeschhouwer in a report circulated last week.

But concern about Adobe's prospects--as reflected in a dip in the company's share price following the Acrylic release--has less to do with the quality of Microsoft's offering than with the fact that Adobe has provoked Microsoft's competitive ire.

Rather than competing with products or technologies, Hein said, Microsoft identifies competitive threats on a company-by-company basis.

"And they go after the company," Hein said. "Adobe and Macromedia are more of a competitor than either standalone, and Microsoft will compete by offering a free version that's better integrated with the OS. None of Microsoft's announcements or trial versions will displace Adobe, but it's a clear signal that Adobe just popped much higher on Microsoft's competitive radar."

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Posted by: wessonjoe Posted on: 06/23/05 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Come to our side...  BitTwiddler | 06/20/05
What you mean is?  nucrash | 06/20/05
M$ want's people to get comfortable and believe they are not going to  wessonjoe | 06/20/05
M$ is worse  DarthRidiculous | 06/20/05
Take over your desktop?  Fred Fredrickson | 06/20/05
Fred, Flash can be blocked/removed in Windows  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Use Firefox...  figgle | 06/20/05
Read his post, he plainly stated you can remove Flash from Windows.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
His subject was Flash, not browsers.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
He was comparing Flash to IE. Flash can be removed, IE NO.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
How many "rich applications"...  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Very few are running now, but Adobe has almost 100% coverage.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
I know, that's why i mentioned plugin removeal & Flashblock  Fred Fredrickson | 06/20/05
And, Flex runs on top of flash, that is how Adobe can guarantee it's on all  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
resorting to a personal attack is a logical fallacy that will get you  wessonjoe | 06/23/05
Flash download new version now- quick!  Roving_Reporter | 06/20/05
Microsoft helped a company work on PDF to Word  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
pdf to word, pure nonsense  theo_durcan | 06/20/05
Huge and awkward  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
PDF's are fine for look or print but don't touch.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Anton you dont know what you are talking  theo_durcan | 06/20/05
You are not correct  osreinstall | 06/20/05
And if it's not my original file?  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Word is a word processing program, PDF is portable document format  MacGeek2121 | 06/20/05
Hokey Smokes Rocky, Someone Really DOES Know the Difference  tbbrickster_z | 06/20/05
Another reason  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/20/05
Relative size  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
A .pdf file less than 1 MB?  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Adobe Speed WTF?  nucrash | 06/20/05
"Everything on the GUI is a PDF." ?  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Under 1 meg - no problem  j.m.galvin | 06/20/05
Word as an imaging app is trash  mactolinux | 06/20/05
Explained  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
Yes, the GUI is PDF.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/21/05
Word files are good for nothing  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/20/05
Implications of Mactel?  ouvrez | 06/20/05
More Mac users will try MS Products  sp29 | 06/20/05
They're going to have to give us quality first.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 06/21/05
Have you considered the implications?  nucrash | 06/20/05
Why is the Mac worth "top dollar"?  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Not always worth top dollar....  nucrash | 06/20/05
Re: have you considered...  Otto_Delete | 06/20/05
there a small problem that you seem to forget  toxicfreak | 06/20/05
GOOD SIDE EFFECT FOR APPLE  theo_durcan | 06/20/05
MS will bundle with the office suite most likely.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
More FUD  Fred Fredrickson | 06/20/05
The first monopoly was NOT obtained illegally.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Yes it was - read Jackson's findings of fact  Fred Fredrickson | 06/20/05
Adobe Needs the Competition!  sp29 | 06/20/05
Users would benefit.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
how often do you use photoshop/illustrator?  pesky_z | 06/20/05
We're not disagreeing.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
paint is lame  pesky_z | 06/20/05
Paint isn't in the running.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
99% don't need these  j.m.galvin | 06/20/05
What about Elements?  MacCanuck | 06/20/05
Other products do many low end functions better.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
stripped down products, xtra money anyone?  pesky_z | 06/20/05
Ever hear about....  robgroh | 06/20/05
$99 is not cheap.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
Element, my dear Anton...  robgroh | 06/20/05
I can do "inkjet prints of Aunt Martha...  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
PSP  webcrazy | 06/20/05
Unfortunatly, the competition from MS will not be straight up.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Are you saying Adobe doesn't have a suite?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
They do not have an office suite, and they most definately do not have a  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Who said Office Suite?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
So what is your point. Adobe has no monopoly to leverage.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Lets back up a second...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
You hit the nail on the head, that is why MS will bundle with Office.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
But Office is not "free".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Yes, but MS can afford to lose millions on the add-ons, FOREVER  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
And Chevy can afford to  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
If Chevy had a monopoly in CARS, they could put Goodyear out of business.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Competition  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
Sorry...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Adobe should make all of their products  osreinstall | 06/20/05
Yet Another Micrsoft "Innovation"  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Aw, are you upset there is another competitor?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Yes, straight up competition is good. That is not the case here.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Ah, so you only want "poor" competitors.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Deep pockets are ok if they are trying to make money.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Of course they will make money.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Yes, they make money on the monopoly OS and Office Suite.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Poor argument...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
No, all car manufacturers have to make money.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
Straw men  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
Are you dizzy from that spin?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Yeah, Isn't Your Company's Name ZDNet Suckup Industries?  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Straw men, part two  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
No, Not Upset, Just Proving That Microsoft Can't Invent Anything Original  itanalyst | 06/20/05
When you lose the debate, start insulting...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
I Haven't Lost Anything You Worthless Excuse For An IT Professional  itanalyst | 06/20/05
More attempts at insult. How very sad...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
How's This For An Insult?  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Competitor? Buuuuwaaaaahahahah! More like...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Yup, competition removes the weak.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
ZDNet says: Let's you and him fight.  Anton Philidor | 06/20/05
microsoft paint or Adobe photoshop, hmm......  pesky_z | 06/20/05
Who said anything about MS Paint?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
expression what???  pesky_z | 06/20/05
If you haven't used Expression...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Sorry, We Prefer Adobe Photoshop and Paintshop Pro  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Huh? Users seem to like it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Hmm...Just Asked My Network Techs (All MSCEs) What Expression Is  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Obviously your techs are way behind..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
I'll Be Sure To Tell My Techs What You Said  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Itanalyst, your MCSEs don't know about it  Patrick Jones | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/20/05
adobe sales?  mkimage@... | 06/20/05
Huh?  ITGuy04 | 06/20/05
Resistance is futile...  robgroh | 06/20/05
Microsoft Office Document Image Writer?  herrmannator | 06/20/05
as it encroaches on Microsoft's turf  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/05
What's It Matter Anyway....It's Going To Be On Longhorn  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Funny, it runs on my XP box just fine.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Heck, it even runs on W2K.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Hmm..So Now You Are Asking Corporations With MILLIONS Of Adobe Docs  itanalyst | 06/20/05
True, the installed base of PDF creates quite a moat.  DonnieBoy | 06/20/05
You mean the PDF "monopoly".  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Wow, The Pot Calling The Kettle Black  itanalyst | 06/20/05
You don't get it Ax  osreinstall | 06/20/05
Interesting..  Patrick Jones | 06/20/05
Actually  j.m.galvin | 06/20/05
I am not asking anyone to do anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Why don't you change your name to...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Why don't you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
It would be different if the "playing field" is...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Level playing field has NEVER existed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
And One Is A Monopolistic Bully  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Re: Level playing field has NEVER existed.  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/20/05
;-] (nt)  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
I guess if you mention...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/20/05
Message has been deleted.  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
WAAAAH WAAAH IM ZDNET AND I HAVE TO CENSOR EVERYTHING!!!  itanalyst | 06/21/05
Re: Message has been deleted.  Colonel_Panic | 06/21/05
Typo correction: that should read...  Colonel_Panic | 06/21/05
Businesses will have to switch  robgroh | 06/21/05
No, business won't "have to switch"  Otto_Delete | 06/21/05
Might as well start building the casket now. :-[ (nt)  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Analysts got it right - there is a real threat from Flash  kgoldfisher@... | 06/20/05
MS will pick the low lying fruit and force Adobe back to its niche  MyLord | 06/20/05
Typical Microsoft tactics...  thetargos | 06/20/05
Will MS support other operating systems?  Otto_Delete | 06/20/05
Why?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
Compiracy theory, next  theo_durcan | 06/20/05
$1000.oo Laghorn...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
How about M$ bust up into little pieces that...  Colonel_Panic | 06/20/05
Tried and FAILED...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/05
What company would that be?  An_Axe_to_Grind | 06/21/05
Microsloth alternative to Flash?  An_Axe_to_Grind | 06/21/05
Ever hear of PhotoDraw?  bammike | 06/21/05

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