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By Michael Singer
Posted on ZDNet News: Aug 9, 2005 8:02:00 PM

SAN FRANCISCO--Despite their best attempts, Linux software companies say they are still having a hard time luring average consumers away from the Windows environment--but that may not necessarily be a bad thing.

Windows still dominates the PC world. About 90 percent of all desktops, laptops and even PDAs are powered by Microsoft, according to reports by Gartner and IDC. Even with all the hoopla last year about Linux progress, the buzz over breaking the Windows stronghold has died down considerably.

When it comes to the enterprise desktop, companies like Novell and Red Hat are making some progress, thanks to open-source projects such as Evolution, Firefox, KDE, GNOME, OpenOffice and Wine. But the companies still report adoption problems in the consumer space.

"(Linux on the desktop) is not the sexy story that it used to be. However, there are some very steady and irreversible trends."
--Jeremy White
Vice president, Novell

"We feel like it is a long road for us. It certainly has not a been an overnight shift," David Patrick, vice president and general manager of Novell's Linux, open-source and platforms services group, said during a press briefing at the LinuxWorld Conference and Expo, which is taking place here this week.

Novell seems to have made more progress than other companies, with its Suse Linux Professional edition for home users and Novell Linux Desktop for the corporate office.

Patrick said the company has the best success in fixed markets, as with the company's retail win with Ritz Camera and its new education contract with the state of Indiana, both announced Tuesday.

The company also released its OpenSuse project, which Patrick says will differ from Red Hat's Fedora project in that it will let consumers help identify key open-source projects before they are professionally developed.

Red Hat continues to dismiss any idea that it will offer a consumer version of its Enterprise Desktop Linux product, according to a company representative.

Expert Jeremy White, who wears a double hat as the go-to man at the Desktop Linux Consortium and as the founder and CEO of CodeWeavers, says the biggest roadblock to average-consumer adoption seems to be lack of hardware support, especially for gadgets like MP3 players.

"Last year, there was a lot of smoke but no fire when it came to Linux on the desktop," he said. "It is not the sexy story that it used to be. However, there are some very steady and irreversible trends. There are a lot of customers that tell us that they would adopt Linux in theory, but say, 'Gee, we would use Linux if only if it could run this one application.'"

The other barrier, according to White, seems to be the lack of software support by key manufacturers like Adobe Systems and Macromedia, which are strong supporters of Windows and Apple Computer's Mac OS X but rely more on third-party companies to help their applications run on Linux.

White also suggests that crossover products like AJAX, ThinkFree, VMware and Wine are actually creating a world where Windows and Linux coexist in harmony on the desktop. Such tools allow people to run Windows programs on non-Windows systems.

In some cases, Linux is working to the advantage of corporate buyers who, according to White, are not shy about having employees working on Linux-based operating systems when the Microsoft account managers pay a visit.

"They use it like a leveraging tool, kind of like threatening Microsoft to give them better discounts or lose out on their licensing accounts," White said, but added, "it's still Microsoft's game."


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"In some ways," adds Brian Proffitt, editor of LinuxToday.com and co-author of "The Joy of Linux," "Linux on the desktop is almost irrelevant because of the shift towards Web-based applications.

"Linux in the enterprise is where you will see the most work being done these days because companies don't want all of those applications open at the bottom of a Windows tray. Ultimately, it comes down to what you want the Linux desktop to do."

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I did NOT mean non-technical users were stupid. I was not talking about them, you, me or our mothers.

With that said, I guess "Lazy" was a better word to describe the average joe that uses his ... (Read the rest)
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It's The Stupidity Of The User That's Preventing It  itanalyst | 08/09/05
Yeah...  rapson | 08/09/05
Hey, I'm Being Honest  itanalyst | 08/09/05
mouse server!  Jeff Spicoli | 08/09/05
My favorite is from Dilbert...  Anton Philidor | 11/07/05
to be honest..  Jeff Spicoli | 08/09/05
Well, you run Mac, Duh!!!  nucrash | 08/10/05
Just stick with the subs  magcomment | 08/10/05
I was thinking the same thing.  enduser_z | 08/09/05
Spot On. Linux's biggest problem is it's fans.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/09/05
no it's not at all  Jeff Spicoli | 08/09/05
Zealots, not fans  Michael Kelly | 08/10/05
Fans or zealots mean nothing  voska | 11/07/05
True to an extent.  nucrash | 08/10/05
You haven't been able to figure out ...  ShadeTree | 11/07/05
They are needlessly complex  voska | 11/07/05
Depends on the quality of tech.  ShadeTree | 11/07/05
Same here  kjgslg@... | 08/10/05
Crazy analogy  archnova79 | 08/09/05
Give 'm teletubby  yanus7 | 08/09/05
Amen to that too  archnova79 | 08/09/05
RE: Give 'm teletubby  Linux User 147560 | 08/09/05
Not quite LU#  osreinstall | 08/09/05
Not the point  yanus7 | 08/09/05
The point about the car analogy is...  robgroh | 08/10/05
RE: The point about the car analogy is...  Linux User 147560 | 08/11/05
Lack of experience...  robgroh | 08/11/05
Linux recommendations  robgroh | 08/11/05
Well? How did it go?  Linux Advocate | 11/07/05
true enough...  bthomasmo@... | 08/09/05
Oh.... too late for teletub-linux  Hard Cider | 08/09/05
RE: Oh.... too late for teletub-linux  nightshade0143 | 08/09/05
Funny comparison  voska | 08/09/05
We may never know  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/09/05
It's The Stupidity Of The User That's Preventing It  nightshade0143 | 08/09/05
Yeah, stupid Apple users...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/09/05
It's more like the stupidity of the linux programmer!  osreinstall | 08/09/05
Not true  mikeybrass | 08/10/05
And....  DTanner | 12/01/05
Don't call those stupid users stupid stupid!  dtfinch | 12/01/05
Linux on the desktop--almost there again?  Loverock Davidson | 08/09/05
Gee Loveyrocky..it's soo surprising to see you here  Jeff Spicoli | 08/09/05
Stop being sensible.  Anton Philidor | 08/09/05
Well, I do give you credit.  Anton Philidor | 08/09/05
Oh good grief...  Anti_Zealot | 08/09/05
Some open source products are designed...  Anton Philidor | 08/09/05
I wonder if Microsoft will fix thier desktop  voska | 08/09/05
ever heard of QUICKLAUNCH?!?  baaobaab | 08/10/05
I have no problem with Flash  ebrke | 08/10/05
You expect me to read that?  voska | 11/07/05
And yet...  rapson | 08/10/05
Can't say I've heard of any  voska | 11/07/05
Missed the follow-up until now,  Anti_Zealot | 08/09/05
Not much with which to disagree.  Anton Philidor | 08/10/05
Hey Anton!  robgroh | 08/10/05
Select "Open link in new window"...  Anton Philidor | 08/11/05
Have you ever...  robgroh | 08/11/05
Oh the irony  Richard Flude | 08/09/05
OEM, test the market ? offer the clients Dual Boot PCs (Win + Linux). (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/09/05
Amen to that  archnova79 | 08/09/05
RE: OEM, test the market ? offer the clients Dual Boot PCs (Win + Linux). (  Linux User 147560 | 08/09/05
Why settle for a Dual Boot?  tic swayback | 08/09/05
Can I throw BSD on there too?  Squawkbox | 08/09/05
RE: Can I throw BSD on there too?  nightshade0143 | 08/09/05
Whoa Night  Squawkbox | 08/09/05
Ahhh... BeOS  nucrash | 08/10/05
It's sad that Steve Jobs did not let BeOS to be ranked No 1. (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/10/05
RE: Ahhh... BeOS  nightshade0143 | 08/11/05
Woohoo, can hardly wait!  voska | 08/09/05
Do you really believe that Apple has the guts to do this -Tri Boot? (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/09/05
They've already said as much  tic swayback | 08/10/05
Tic, next time try to read what I wrote more carefully. (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/10/05
Next time try to write more carefully if you wish to be understood  tic swayback | 08/10/05
Do you?ve doubts that Apple is the only COMPANY who can do 3-Boot? (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/10/05
No doubts here  tic swayback | 08/10/05
Tic, did you notice that you talk because you have to talk? (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/10/05
Vily, did you notice you'd rather be rude than discuss things intelligently  tic swayback | 08/11/05
Thus Tic, you?re in hurry to say nothing. No surprise.  Vily Clay | 08/11/05
And you'd rather be insulting than carry on an intelligent conversation  tic swayback | 08/11/05
First you?ve to have intelligence to be insulted. When you?ll have it? (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/11/05
More rudeness, still no facts. Grow up (NT)  tic swayback | 08/12/05
Message has been deleted.  Vily Clay | 08/12/05
Digging a deeper and deeper hole  tic swayback | 08/12/05
Finally Tic, you admitted you have no intelligence. Thanks.  Vily Clay | 08/12/05
You live in an imaginary world  tic swayback | 08/13/05
Tic, you?re a brain-dead to discuss the topic, but you can bark instead. NT  Vily Clay | 08/13/05
Good idea Vily but consumers will go MS  Squawkbox | 08/09/05
That's why the whole Mactel thing will be really interesting  tic swayback | 08/09/05
Mac on price  Squawkbox | 08/09/05
Ok, did I miss something along the way?  Scrat | 08/10/05
Other way around  tic swayback | 08/10/05
Tic,you didn?t get it ?the coming Mac is a Dell spoiled by Apple?s DRM (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/10/05
But it's a high end Dell  tic swayback | 08/10/05
Tic, how often do you judge things you don?t know? (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/10/05
Not as often as you make statements unsupported by facts (NT)  tic swayback | 08/11/05
Tic, I wish you?d remember/understand what you read. Are you hopeless? (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/11/05
Say something true, and perhaps I'll remember it  tic swayback | 08/11/05
Tic, but you as a Job?s zombie do not have brains to recognize it. (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/11/05
More childish remarks  tic swayback | 08/12/05
Tic, since you cannot think as a human, ask somebody ...  Vily Clay | 08/12/05
When you start acting like an adult...  tic swayback | 08/12/05
I'm sorry Tic, that you have no brains to understand human speech. (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/12/05
When you start speaking like a human....  tic swayback | 08/13/05
Tic, when I researched you as a lab rat I found that ...  Vily Clay | 08/13/05
Human nature loves NEW. No matter what ? the clients will try it. (NT)  Vily Clay | 08/09/05
That's the only reason so many devs went .NET (nt)  Anti_Zealot | 08/09/05
Yes, human nature also prefers an easy solution to the right one.  Vily Clay | 08/09/05
The main problem of MS windows is NOT its lacking  michael_t | 08/09/05
Microsoft And The 'Forced-Upgrade' of Terror  GuyAlanDye | 08/09/05
I think I remember you  Jeff Spicoli | 08/09/05
And what is that you can do with MS windows and cannot with a Linux  michael_t | 08/10/05
wellllll.......  JoeMama_z | 08/11/05
How ironic.  robgroh | 08/11/05
Ha Ha Ha! Heard it before, WIll hear it again  mjbad2 | 08/09/05
Yeah, just like transcontinental railroad  IT_User | 08/11/05
RE: Give 'm teletubby  Jester_z | 08/09/05
RE: Give 'm teletubby  Jester_z | 08/09/05
Linux on desktop a side issue anyway.  Anton Philidor | 08/09/05
If you counting on IBM to push Linux i would becareful wit that.  computer_man | 08/11/05
The choir approves the preaching.  Anton Philidor | 08/11/05
Answering the question...  John Le'Brecage | 11/07/05
Don't know about IBM but....  htotten | 11/07/05
When they try redhat, they give up  mvaar | 08/09/05
Ya know why Redhat  Squawkbox | 08/09/05
Hmm I have my RedHat/Fedora Core 4 box for 5 years now  computer_man | 08/11/05
Sensasional headlines generate hits ...  George Mitchell | 08/09/05
"political and geographical issues"  Anti_Zealot | 08/09/05
I think you misread me ...  George Mitchell | 08/09/05
Investing.  Anton Philidor | 08/09/05
Being "there" means being considered...  Anton Philidor | 08/09/05
It's meaningless Anton ...  George Mitchell | 08/10/05
Good approach.  Anton Philidor | 08/10/05
Poorer?  Update victim | 11/08/05
Software Equivalents  robgroh | 08/11/05
No they don't, because  htotten | 11/07/05
When and where was this "campaign"?  IT_User | 08/11/05
Is Linux a business phenomenon?  Anton Philidor | 08/11/05
Don't disagree  IT_User | 08/11/05
Okay.  Anton Philidor | 08/11/05
Sorry Anton, but when the DOJ allowed Microsoft to write the settlement  Update victim | 11/08/05
No games for Linux  bmonster | 08/09/05
get an xbox or a ps2 (or xbox360/ps3)  hipparchus2001 | 11/07/05
No almost about it, Microsoft is toast!  anthonycea | 08/09/05
Buwahahaha, all the way to the bank.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/09/05
which I will promptly be throwing a grenade into  Jeff Spicoli | 08/09/05
Don, quit gloating!  George Mitchell | 08/09/05
Buwahahaha, right along with Western Union  IT_User | 08/11/05
redhat is a conserative Linux distro  hipparchus2001 | 11/07/05
Linux needs to stop it's reputations as a Geek's tool!  SteveG123 | 08/09/05
Smell the Redmond fear  whisperycat | 08/10/05
I love the smell of fear in the morning  Chad_z | 08/10/05
Justifying OS  robgroh | 08/11/05
the fear is they are standing still  hipparchus2001 | 11/07/05
Actually Jellyclock2, you misseda good point  Update victim | 11/08/05
AJAX?  publicreg@... | 08/10/05
Advertise, like on television  FilledOut | 08/10/05
stealing windows from Microsoft! shocked  dbrimlow | 08/10/05
Lack of Modem drivers and broadband slowing Linux  bugmenotznet | 08/10/05
56K? I don't think you're a typical user somehow  hipparchus2001 | 11/07/05
Hey Hip-, You're ability to obtain broadband  Update victim | 11/08/05
almost  mjray111 | 08/10/05
Linux on the desktop, I like the Xandros flavor  tlhorne@... | 08/10/05
Stupidity of the Users? Dont think so!  royalstream | 08/10/05
Gee...  robgroh | 08/11/05
Wrong word?  royalstream | 01/15/06
rough edges like Linux  cyber_rigger@... | 11/07/05
Winning friends and influencing people. NOT... (NT)  Update victim | 11/08/05
E-Mail Client  cavj1@... | 08/10/05
Linux on the desktop........  JoeMama_z | 08/10/05
Is that right?  michael_t | 08/10/05
Yea its true.  computer_man | 08/11/05
more importantly.....  JoeMama_z | 08/11/05
You right about that... 90 min default. for Domain GPO  computer_man | 08/11/05
actually i was wrong as well.....  JoeMama_z | 08/11/05
Joe, ask Burlington Industries. They have several years experience. (NT)  Update victim | 11/08/05
MEPIS has Microsoft on the run!  anthonycea | 08/11/05
Yep, Linux on the desktop  Boot_Agnostic | 08/11/05
just as the desktop is going on the web  hipparchus2001 | 11/07/05
Yes, and people prefer renting homes to buying them, too. .(NT)  Update victim | 11/08/05
Fix Wine  CobraA1 | 08/11/05
Wine is a separate bottle that hasn't aged well enough  Boot_Agnostic | 08/11/05
Aim low! Get Simplier.  john.gruber@... | 08/12/05
ZDNet hits an all time low? (again?)  Loverock Davidson | 11/07/05
Linux does NOT SEE ADS Express  jackie40d@... | 11/08/05
Linux on the Desktop  Update victim | 11/08/05
One more thing. -  Update victim | 11/08/05
ubuntu  robtomba | 12/01/05
ubuntu  robtomba | 12/01/05

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