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Posted on ZDNet News: Oct 3, 2005 10:31:00 PM

Microsoft will enable people to publish documents in the Adobe Systems PDF format with Office 12, a company product manager said Saturday.

Office 12, which is expected to be completed by the second half of 2006, will let end users take an Office document and convert it to PDF, Brian Jones, a program manager for Microsoft Office, said in a blog posting. People will not be able to actually read PDF files from within Office applications; a PDF viewer will still be required, he noted.

The PDF support will be built into Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access, Publisher, OneNote, Visio and InfoPath, Jones said.

"We've really heard the feedback that sharing documents across multiple platforms and long-term archiving are really important," Jones said in his blog. "People now have a couple options here, with the existing support for HTML and RTF, and now the new support for open XML formats and PDF."

Microsoft's XML-based document formats will be the default setting for Office 12. The advantage of having an XML-based format is that information from documents can be more easily shared and archived, according to Microsoft executives.

The importance of multiple document formats came into sharp focus last month when Massachusetts decided to mandate the use of the OpenDocument format in desktop productivity applications used in the state's executive branch agencies. Adobe's PDF is considered an "open format" under the state's policy. Microsoft's Office 12 does not support OpenDocument.

Even as Microsoft adds PDF support, the company is working on a document format, called Metro, that offers many of the same features as PDF. Metro will be delivered in late 2006 with Windows Vista.

Metro is designed to enable people to view Office documents without needing Office applications. The format also uses the graphics engine in Windows Vista to have a consistent way of displaying data on a screen and sending document data to printers, according to Microsoft.

At a meeting with Microsoft partners Saturday, Microsoft's senior vice president of Microsoft Office, Steven Sinofksy, demonstrated the PDF support. A beta test version of Office 12, which will include the PDF feature, is expected to be released this fall.

In an interview on Monday, Sinofsky said that Microsoft has been getting 120,000 requests a month that it add an option to save files in PDF. He said the decision to add the support was made some time ago.

"It's been a feature area that has been under development for the whole product cycle; we just chose to announce it this past week," he said.

An Adobe executive said that the company welcomes Office's support of PDF.

"Microsoft's announcement is really a validation that PDF is the basis for customer critical workflows," Pam Deziel, Adobe director of platform strategy, said in an interview.

At the same time, Deziel acknowledged that the company is seeing increased competition from Microsoft in a variety of areas.

"Yes, we see them encroaching into areas where Adobe has long delivered products," she said, adding that Microsoft is both a key partner and a formidable competitor. "There is healthy 'co-opetition'...That's the way the game works in this industry."

Deziel said that Adobe might see lower sales of its low-end Acrobat Elements program, but that the majority of the Acrobat business comes from higher-end products whose abilities stretch beyond Office's PDF-handling features.

It is less clear, Deziel said, how Office's new PDF capabilities will dovetail with Microsoft's plans for Metro. The ability to save and share Metro documents from any program will be built into Vista and available as an add-on to Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. Sinofsky declined to say what built-in Metro abilities Office 12 will have.

"We're curious about that," she said. "I don't think they've answered that question very well."

CNET News.com's Ina Fried contributed to this report.

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Its About Time - I've recently been through the painstaking effort of converting publisher files over so my printer could read them. This process took a couple of days for me and my printer, lets just say he's asked me to create in other programs.

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It is about time.  jimroar2000 | 10/03/05
WordPerfect is dead. Get over it. (NT)  hal9000mx | 10/03/05
If the Open Document format takes off, Word Perfect could see gains.  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
Funny, Can't even give WP away  John Zern | 10/03/05
Gotta Spare Copy  nucrash | 10/03/05
Actually, if you are...  zkiwi | 10/03/05
Word Perfect is a great product, it is just that we have OpenOffice if you  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
If it were better than MSOffice than WP would have most marketshare.  osreinstall | 10/03/05
No, it does not matter that Word Perfect is a little better.  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
So what is wrong with letting MS do it?  osreinstall | 10/03/05
it's dead?  Monkey_MCSE | 10/03/05
Nope, all those lawyers at the bottom of the ocean  Boot_Agnostic | 10/03/05
It's really unbelievable ...  Ludovit | 10/03/05
WoW!  Tim Patterson | 10/03/05
Does this mean...  Loverock Davidson | 10/03/05
Really, OpenOffice allows you to use PDF in it's data base output?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
OpenOffice has had this for some time. Microsoft is feeling the heat.  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
Question  rapson | 10/03/05
Answer  Anti_Zealot | 10/03/05
Sorry but no, PDF is an open standard  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Sorry, that was not the question  Anti_Zealot | 10/03/05
PDF is open enough. You can read and write without a license.  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
As you wish, so shall it be  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Editting pdf  Bill4 | 10/03/05
I agree.  John Zern | 10/03/05
Open Office does this already...  Linux User 147560 | 10/03/05
In general, the transformation to PDF is lossy. They only save what  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
The PDF format  thetargos | 10/03/05
Yeah, you saw right through this ona, as usual...  John Zern | 10/03/05
Users have been wanting native PDF from MS for some time now.  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
Sorry you are wrong, MS had to obtain an Adobe license  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Hasn't the PDF format been open for years?  Patrick Jones | 10/03/05
Not for commercial use.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Incorrect  baggins_z | 10/03/05
I disagree..  Patrick Jones | 10/03/05
Desperate Don  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
They probably are feeling heat  Loverock Davidson | 10/03/05
Did  Linux User 147560 | 10/03/05
I think so  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
In that regard, this is GREAT, I should recieve fewer .doc files.  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
No, there is no such thing as a *.doc file.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Same thing applies to OpenOffice and StarOffice and most other programs...  Physco Dude | 10/03/05
Just offering a clue to the above poster.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Yes, choice is good, and Massechusettes wants Open <ocument.  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
Hassayampa River  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
So what Don's telling us  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Hold on oh cleuless one.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
And, that is EXACTLY why Microsoft has resisted supporting it.  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
Again... Apple is doing that same NOW!  ocenteno | 10/03/05
MacOS X has had Print-To-PDF from day one...  BitTwiddler | 10/03/05
Use preveiw not acrobat reader  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/03/05
And 90%+ of the world's users simply doesn't care.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Which of course  baggins_z | 10/03/05
Not being cruel...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Irrelevant  baggins_z | 10/03/05
Let the usual MS bashing proceed  mikelpg | 10/03/05
Well...  Monkey_MCSE | 10/03/05
Huh, show me where they claimed "innovative" in this.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
speaking in general...  Monkey_MCSE | 10/03/05
In your dreams MSFT boy  Chad_z | 10/03/05
Chad, don't go away mad, just go away.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Amazing, no. Predictable, yes...  avdp | 10/03/05
Show me where the word "innovation" is used.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Not yet  avdp | 10/03/05
So all the ranting fools are, um, fools?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Fools, maybe  avdp | 10/04/05
...and you are one of them (I mean ranting fool)  No_Brain_To_Think | 10/04/05
Bashing VS sheeping  Anti_Zealot | 10/03/05
Beta had issues  voska | 10/03/05
Lot of assumptions there  voska | 10/03/05
I liked that  John Zern | 10/03/05
Spot On!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Nice to see that we all agree  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Do you get dizzy from all that spin?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
They already had it before MS...  Physco Dude | 10/03/05
Why is this news worthy?  fizzmaster | 10/03/05
Will need to change Group Policies..  Mike Cox | 10/03/05
Excellent, Mike  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Microsoft Innovation  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Innovation  Loverock Davidson | 10/03/05
NEWESFLASH: OpenOffice.org and StarOffice already export to PDF. (nt)  CobraA1 | 10/03/05
Multiple formats? Not important....  techboy_z | 10/03/05
But that is a monoculture thinking.  osreinstall | 10/03/05
Sorry, you are plain wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Great idea  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
MS was getting 120 thousand requests a month for it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Adobe is more proprietary...  314 | 10/03/05
Law firms and WP?  John Zern | 10/03/05
You can and it's free  Bill4 | 10/03/05
MS bought the license for you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Plus a small handling fee, of course  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
So what's stopping you?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Feature bloat, just another thing to complain about  Boot_Agnostic | 10/03/05
code view was great  Monkey_MCSE | 10/03/05
OK with me  slingzenarrowzuvowtrayjissforchin | 10/03/05
Adobe purchased Macromedia...  Anton Philidor | 10/03/05
I'm trying not to be cynical here  slingzenarrowzuvowtrayjissforchin | 10/03/05
That's not cynicism...  Anton Philidor | 10/03/05
Microsoft to support PDF in Office 12  Loverock Davidson | 10/03/05
Obviously  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
PDFCreator at sourceforge.net  old_user | 10/03/05
Been using for a while, love it  Boot_Agnostic | 10/04/05
Competition is good  John L. Ries | 10/03/05
Now if they would allow unformatted text to be pasted into HTML e-mails...  K B | 10/03/05
You can already do that  george_ou | 10/03/05
Not a MS issue, it took time...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
My, Don's spinning today  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
You're right YBK  Richard Flude | 10/03/05
Another Microsoft Innovation!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Should offer a PDF printer...  wolf_z | 10/03/05
Agreed  Loverock Davidson | 10/03/05
Actually, it would be nice if that was available on all Linux distributions  DonnieBoy | 10/03/05
postscript failed...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Please talk to George Ou  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Postscript didn't fail...  Richard Flude | 10/03/05
It is  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
I use PDFCreator 8  Boot_Agnostic | 10/03/05
It's all about the license...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
What?  baggins_z | 10/03/05
Just been using PDF995  eddoaloha | 10/03/05
Woopie  calcmandan | 10/03/05
And everyone is rejoicing at your choice.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Mass posturing  Physco Dude | 10/03/05
Oh to be sure, Mass. had an impact.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
One quibble ...  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Yes and no...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Policies  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Sorry, your wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
Take your own advice, Don  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
Unfortunately it wouldn't have helped, it seems  Mark Miller | 10/04/05
Massachusetts' bizarre definition  BruceWheelock@... | 10/03/05
ISO  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
ISO PDF-X  eddoaloha | 10/03/05
Thank you  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/04/05
Too Little, Too Late?  mwagner@...ZDNet Moderator | 10/03/05
This FULLY meets the Mass. requirements.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/03/05
So...  Anti_Zealot | 10/03/05
Don't hoping you really won't  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/03/05
FULLY half-way there  IT_User | 10/03/05
Meanwhile  CobraA1 | 10/03/05
Right you are...  Anti_Zealot | 10/03/05
WordPerfect Ahead of Curve  MountainMan66 | 10/03/05
Wordperfect?  itpro_z | 10/03/05
From a humble user's perspective....  Bill4 | 10/03/05
WP 5.2  itpro_z | 10/03/05
MS didn't do in Wordperfect in our humble beginnings  Boot_Agnostic | 10/04/05
metro  Otto_Delete | 10/03/05
Whoo look at those others who support  jmills@... | 10/03/05
I don't need no stinking Office Bloat Ware  oisleach@... | 10/04/05
Speaking of bloat  Boot_Agnostic | 10/04/05
nowhere near bloat-city with office.  An_Axe_to_Grind | 10/04/05
somewhere close enough to bloat city  Boot_Agnostic | 10/05/05
Another try to kill ADOBE. Good luck.  kiribanda | 10/04/05
practical is good...  ssloan1700 | 10/04/05
This is good.  dsentman@... | 10/05/05
I'll answer my own question...  dsentman@... | 10/05/05
PDF for Office 12  mariereno1@... | 10/26/05

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