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By Dawn Kawamoto
Posted on ZDNet News: Jan 25, 2006 3:07:00 PM

Microsoft on Wednesday offered to license some of its Windows Server source code to rivals, as it seeks to avoid a potential fine of up to $2.45 million a day imposed by European antitrust regulators.

But whether the European Commission is willing to accept some of Microsoft's server source code, in lieu of requested server protocols, has yet to be seen. The Commission said although Microsoft has issued a public announcement it will review, the antitrust agency has yet to receive a formal reply to its statement of objections it issued in late December. Microsoft has until Feb. 15 to reply to the statement of objections.

The commission last month warned Microsoft it could face a retroactive fine of up to 2 million euros, or $2.45 million, per day for failing to comply with its earlier March order. That order required the software giant to provide its server protocols to rivals, in order to aid interoperability between the dominant operating system and rivals' products. The order also required Microsoft to offer a version of its operating system without its media player bundled inside it.

Microsoft is appealing the March order and the case is expected to be heard by the European Court of First Instance from April 24 to 28. A decision in the case, however, is expected to take a year or more.

In announcing its source code proposal, Microsoft stated it would license the server code for the technologies covered by the European Commission's decision on March 2004. By way of complying with the commission's statement of objections, the software giant said it is offering the source code as a means to "categorically" address all issues and complaints the Commission has previously raised.

"The Windows source code is the ultimate documentation of Windows Server technologies. With this step our goal is to resolve all questions about the sufficiency of our technical documentation," Brad Smith, Microsoft general counsel, said in a statement.

In addition to its Windows server source-code proposal, Microsoft also noted it has made a similar offer for its Windows desktop operating system to the Department of Justice. If accepted, the Windows desktop source code would replace the protocols that developers currently have access to under a 2002 agreement with the antitrust agency.

Although Microsoft is offering its desktop source-code for its U.S. anti-trust case, a Department of Justice representative noted the agency has been in discussions with Microsoft to provide its Windows "server" source-code.

But Microsoft has recently encountered difficulty in responding to requests by a Department of Justice panel of technical experts, who are viewing and testing the protocol documentation for the antitrust agency.

Once the European Commission has received Microsoft's reply to its statement of objections, the commission will consult its advisory committees of member-state competition authorities. The EC will then issue a decision on whether to impose its fine of up to $2.45 million a day on Microsoft. The fine would be retroactively applied to Dec. 15 of last year.

Reuters contributed to this report.

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Well, are they really going to comply, are they running scared, or is this  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
How thoughtful of them  StevoCJ | 01/25/06
It's just open source...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/25/06
Customers care very much. They understand that Open Source prevents dirty  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Your're wrong. Nothing "dirty" about it..  John Zern | 01/25/06
Well, you use Pella Window, no compatibility problems if yor partner  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Um..  Patrick Jones | 01/25/06
Your comparison doesn't fit.  Update victim | 01/25/06
Open source is overrated  osreinstall | 01/25/06
Traditionally slavery was a good idea to some.  whieber | 01/25/06
Of course you can own code, not people.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
I would say Open Source is underrated. All kinds of profitable businesses  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Oh those are billion dollar empires.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
Customers don't want billion dollar empires. They want software the works  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
You are right that customers want software that works.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
So, companies over-charging and getting rich is GOOD for the economy?  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
MS products are not that expensive.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
Your analogy is clueless!  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
Message has been deleted.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
Interesting resonse, if read without the 'NEW'.  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
Shamelessly defending this shakedown again, BOFH.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
Both the EU and US cases were from US companies complaining!  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
Nothing like opportunity from the competition.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
The first US ruling included a break up order.  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
And the judge was biased.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
So now you claim that District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is biased?  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
You jump to conclusions.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
Did you miss the other article or are you just biased?  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
Message has been deleted.  osreinstall | 01/26/06
You missed period.  osreinstall | 01/27/06
Guess you cannot name names.  osreinstall | 01/27/06
That's ridiculous.  jkozura_z | 01/25/06
You are the one that came caroling  osreinstall | 01/25/06
Ssorry again, but  Update victim | 01/25/06
I can build one with my eyeballs shut.  osreinstall | 01/25/06
Thanks Homer!  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
You are welcome Marge.  osreinstall | 01/26/06
The problem is  Michael Kelly | 01/25/06
The open source is exactly the problem  balsover | 01/25/06
I wouldn't say anyone  Michael Kelly | 01/25/06
This isn't really a solution either, that's why they are trying it.  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
It's not Open Source  mdsmedia | 01/25/06
Both the US and EU cases were brought by US based companies.  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
No  Yensi717 | 01/25/06
Can't license.  JeremyAllison | 01/25/06
Yes, you state it so well. Microsoft will at least try to add clauses  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Not usable by Open Source/Free Software  JeremyAllison | 01/25/06
Thanks, I did not realize that the current aggreements for ONLY the docs  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Thanks, Jeremy  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/06
Can you elaborate?  NonZealot | 01/25/06
I can answer that. Anything that would require USERS of the software,  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Thanks but more elaboration  NonZealot | 01/25/06
Reverse engineering proprietary protocols IS legal.  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Not afraid, just law abiding.  JeremyAllison | 01/25/06
Thanks for the answer  NonZealot | 01/25/06
NonZealot, you are right on, Microsoft was only required by the court  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Good Point on NDA  mighetto | 01/25/06
OT: Not a controlling interest  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
Running smart, not scared. NDA is needed  John Zern | 01/25/06
Well, if they are giving the code because of a lack of documentation,  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
MS does not need to GPL the code  balsover | 01/25/06
No, MS does not have to GPL the code, they just need to make it so  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Wishful thinking in the face of noncompliance  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
At this point, nobody...  nix_os_fan | 01/25/06
Microsoft taking new steps to meet EU requirements  Loverock Davidson | 01/25/06
They didn't comply  StevoCJ | 01/25/06
They did  Loverock Davidson | 01/25/06
Access to that mess is not compliance.  jkozura_z | 01/25/06
Worse than that...  JeremyAllison | 01/25/06
Funny  Loverock Davidson | 01/25/06
Funny  nomorems | 01/25/06
Hysterical...  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
THe same thing that got them in trouble in the first place  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
It's impossible for proprietary software...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 01/25/06
Wrong John! You also need to tell everybody where you work.  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Everyone knows where he works  balsover | 01/25/06
Not everybody knows John works at MS. They might guess it by his stupid  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Worst case of Fanboi ever documented?  Scrat | 01/25/06
The intent of the court order is to restore competition, and the main  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Yes, it is possible. But you are saying two different things.  jkozura_z | 01/25/06
Thanks, John  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/06
Message has been deleted.  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Incorrect about fees.  JeremyAllison | 01/25/06
Jeremy, I replied, but it ended up at the bottom.  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Not true John  tracy anne | 01/25/06
And the question is why don't the already have the documentation for  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
For some very odd definition of compatible  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
The Court of First Instance determins if Microsoft is compliant.  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
Loverock I do think  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
LOverock is clearly delusional... Mike Cox is a ZDNet comic working.......  Can you hear me | 01/25/06
I think I do thanks  Loverock Davidson | 01/25/06
Loverock you are in your own capsizing boat .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Capacity not lacking, just untapped?  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
Actually MS has not complied  balsover | 01/25/06
You have your head...  nix_os_fan | 01/25/06
Ohh poor poor miserable ignorant you!! NT  mdsmedia | 01/25/06
The best documentation  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/06
Smith is wrong  jorwell | 01/26/06
You'd only use the spaghetti code  Boot_Agnostic | 01/25/06
It's fricken cold down here in hell  nucrash | 01/25/06
Nobody wants MS source code, we want MS to stop bundling crap into the OS!!  xunil skcor | 01/25/06
Correction - YOU want MS to stop bundling  Confused by religion | 01/25/06
Milly Staples in whose behalf  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Yeah, so exactly how much of a house on fire...  Confused by religion | 01/25/06
You're missing the point !  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Nuclear Option  PMC-CON | 01/25/06
So you would choose to lose 40+% of your operating income to prove a point?  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
Aw heck  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Why did you think the EU investigated?  tombalablomba | 01/25/06
No - YOU are missing the point  Confused by religion | 01/25/06
Really  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
XP N  tombalablomba | 01/25/06
Ummm....  nomorems | 01/25/06
As with any EU OEM...  Confused by religion | 01/26/06
The real test would be ...  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
Don't like it? don't use it  balsover | 01/25/06
You are so right  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
And your point is?  balsover | 01/25/06
Again  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Thats it , I thought you would have said  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
News flash  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Hey money bags!  devlin_X | 02/15/06
Joe Six says NO!  s_gamgee | 01/26/06
Congratulations -  Confused by religion | 01/26/06
I agree and am switching  devlin_X | 02/15/06
Hey rootster  osreinstall | 01/26/06
Speak for yourself. What majority do you represent?  jkozura_z | 01/25/06
Ask the EU how many are buying Windows N?  Confused by religion | 01/25/06
Probably...  rapson | 01/25/06
No we don't  OldMarine | 01/25/06
Again, paternalistic put downs....  Confused by religion | 01/25/06
Here's another paternalistic putdown Milly ,  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Hah! It's you who...  Confused by religion | 01/26/06
Back on topic...  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
Oh Pot!  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
YOU like it the way it is!!  mdsmedia | 01/25/06
I don't need to speak for you...  Confused by religion | 01/26/06
ALOT of us want that crap out of our OS  devlin_X | 02/15/06
You can  nicholas@... | 01/25/06
That is not true Sandman ,  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Did They Say Internet Explorer ... or Explorer?  PMC-CON | 01/25/06
Oh?  devlin_X | 02/15/06
This isn't about you  rapson | 01/25/06
It's About The EU's Attempt to Quash American Profitability (nt)  PMC-CON | 01/25/06
A Load Of BS  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
And what is your take on the US/Microsoft case?  B.O.F.H. | 01/25/06
I guarantee that microsoft  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Yeah, it's probably...  nix_os_fan | 01/25/06
Why do you think Vista is so delayed?  mdsmedia | 01/25/06
Your ABM zealotry is causing you to spout gibberish  NonZealot | 01/25/06
Problem with your story  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Duck!  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
Can't Remove Media Player?  PMC-CON | 01/25/06
Thats funny  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
Says Who?  PMC-CON | 01/25/06
It just lays there hidden in the background !  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
I apologize I was wrong re removal process  PMC-CON | 01/25/06
Have you been living in a cave?  mdsmedia | 01/25/06
You're not too sharp  lengua99 | 01/26/06
Who cares  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 01/25/06
And the answer is ...  Still Lynn | 01/26/06
Tricky mess of code  PhilippeV | 01/25/06
Right, MS is really admitting they did not ever document the interfaces.  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
Wrote the code?  jkozura_z | 01/25/06
True, but at some point, MS should have completely documented the  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
ROTFLMAO -- Jeremy?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/06
At SAMBA, they had to reverse engineer SMB.  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
You didn't get the joke  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/06
Ok, I see your joke! Yes, actually, the SAMBA team would be very willing to  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
THEY ARE LYING !!!  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 01/25/06
This makes no sense  NonZealot | 01/25/06
You've missed one possibility DonnieBoy  mdsmedia | 01/25/06
Right, in that case they are lying to the court.  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
OS/2 pre-dated NT  devlin_X | 02/15/06
Well, he did say it is impossible for proprietary software to be compatible  DonnieBoy | 01/25/06
A good Laugh  tombalablomba | 01/25/06
Great post!  Tony Agudo | 01/25/06
The source code is the best documentation? On which planet?  mcicogni | 01/25/06
What MS means is that code is their only documentation  Richard Flude | 01/25/06
Great Question  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/26/06
The planet in question  jorwell | 01/26/06
The EU could require that this code be place into Public Domain,  Update victim | 01/25/06
No  tombalablomba | 01/25/06
Message has been deleted.  realitycheck101 | 01/25/06
If windows was a car  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 01/25/06
Not true  Pascoli | 02/24/06
Ummm...  nomorems | 01/25/06
Implementation of a New Strategy?  vinod_potty | 01/26/06
If MS code is protected by IP patenets,  bjbrock | 01/26/06
Lawyers secret weapon Delay Delay Delay  jupco | 01/26/06
Idiots!!!  TyroneD | 01/26/06
this is pathetic  jesus_of_suburbia344 | 01/26/06
hackers in europe  jesus_of_suburbia344 | 01/26/06
Open Source or Closed  myrddin@... | 01/27/06
What people want  Kubuntoid | 01/27/06
umm...have you checked it out?  devlin_X | 02/15/06
Microsoft should not sell to EU  bitblaster | 02/09/06

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