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By Peter Judge ZDNet.co.uk
Posted on ZDNet News: Apr 21, 2008 6:15:28 AM

Word documents generated by today's version of Microsoft Office 2007 do not conform to the Office Open XML standard under development by the International Organization for Standardization, according to tests run by a document standards specialist.

In a blog posting this week, Alex Brown, leader of the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) group in charge of maintaining the Office Open XML (OOXML) standard, revealed that Microsoft Office 2007 documents do not meet the latest specifications of the ISO OOXML draft standard.

"Word documents generated by today's version of Microsoft Office 2007 do not conform to ISO/IEC 29500," said Brown in a blog post recounting the process of testing a document against the "strict" and "transitional" schema defined in the standard.

Microsoft Office 2007 saves files in OOXML, an XML-based format, which has been offered for standardization through the Ecma industry body to the ISO. Since a vote narrowly accepted OOXML as a draft international standard, ISO is now in control of the specification.

As changes were made at an ISO ballot resolution meeting, Office 2007 documents no longer conform to the current standard based on OOXML, known as ISO/IEC 29500, according to Brown.

In a statement sent to ZDNet.co.uk on Friday, Brown said that, although he was hopeful that Microsoft will update its Office products to stay in line with the version of OOXML approved by ISO, it is not guaranteed. "The question behind the question, for a lot of the current OOXML debate, seems to be: can Microsoft really be trusted to behave? We shall see," said Brown.

Commentators, including Tim Bray, the inventor of XML, have suggested that Microsoft is unlikely to bother to keep conformant with the OOXML standard as it develops within ISO, but Brown was more optimistic: "Given Microsoft's proven ability to tinker with the Office XML file format between service packs, I am hoping that Microsoft Office will shortly be brought into line with the [ISO/IEC] 29500 specification, and will stay that way," he said. "Indeed, a strong motivation for approving 29500 as an ISO/IEC standard was to discourage Microsoft from this kind of file-format rug-pulling stunt in future."

Brown added that Microsoft has probably realized that there may be considerable commercial advantages to becoming a good citizen in the standards community. "Actively working to make OOXML an internationally informed standard will help them to retain their considerable share of the desktop office space, as this removes objections to Office having a proprietary, vendor-controlled format," he said.

In future, Brown hopes to repeat the test to see if the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, OpenOffice, conforms with the Open Source Initiative (OSI) version of the OpenDocument Format (ODF) document standard--ISO/IEC 26300. He asked: "Will anyone be brave enough to predict what kind of result that exercise will have?"

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That there appears to be something like a reference implementation for ODF, while there isn't such a beasty in the OXML space. Note that Office2k7 is pointed at pre-ISO acceptance, and there's no sign that it's being updated, or being turned into something that can produce OXMl as it stands.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: zkiwi Posted on: 04/23/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Change the format and not the software...  Anton Philidor | 04/21/08
Which was...  zkiwi | 04/21/08
Make the ISO standard conform to Microsoft's code base you mean?  fr0thy2 | 04/21/08
Informative  Anton Philidor | 04/21/08
So...  zkiwi | 04/21/08
More likely...  bportlock | 04/21/08
Well...  zkiwi | 04/21/08
Observing the forms.  Anton Philidor | 04/21/08
Michael? Don't you mean...  zkiwi | 04/21/08
I like the way you imply that ...  fr0thy2 | 04/21/08
If you mean Vista...  Anton Philidor | 04/21/08
"Having found what the public wants"  fr0thy2 | 04/21/08
Congruent interests  Anton Philidor | 04/21/08
You forgot to mention...  zkiwi | 04/21/08
LOL! Classic cart before the horse:  OButterball | 04/21/08
Setting rules  Anton Philidor | 04/21/08
What?!?  OButterball | 04/21/08
When to obtain designation as a standard.  Anton Philidor | 04/21/08
Standards More Important than MS' Need to "Improve Software"  Mercutio_Viz | 04/21/08
Speculation  Anton Philidor | 04/21/08
I'll have to hand it to you  Ole Man | 04/21/08
Didn't we know that already?  Michael Kelly | 04/21/08
Yes Microsoft said this months ago  Johnny Vegas | 04/21/08
Spot on.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/08
Especially as their code base is as poor as their "standards"  fr0thy2 | 04/21/08
Show us your proof  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/08
Well...  zkiwi | 04/21/08
I'll answer your question....  bportlock | 04/21/08
Whoa, hang on...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/08
Well, where is your reply?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/08
Some of us work for a living, Axhead.  OButterball | 04/21/08
NWOR (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/08
Apparently some people have lives outside of ZDNet forums.  B.O.F.H. | 04/21/08
Apparently not you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/08
Right. So when the ISO says "make this change"  GuidingLight | 04/21/08
One thing...  zkiwi | 04/21/08
ISO doesn't tell anyone to do anything  Ole Man | 04/21/08
software vs. format  shis-ka-bob | 04/21/08
So, where's the reference implementation?  zkiwi | 04/21/08
as the bugs haven't been fixed in the specification  stevey_d | 04/21/08
*ssshhh*  zkiwi | 04/21/08
Your last sentence says it all  Ole Man | 04/21/08
If no one uses MS-OOXML, does it exist?  zaine_ridling | 04/22/08
OOXML is real get used to it.  kyron.gustafson@... | 04/22/08
Except...  zkiwi | 04/23/08
One small forgotten thing...  Mitch 74 | 04/22/08

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