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By Liam Tung, ZDNet.com Australia
Posted on ZDNet News: Jun 19, 2008 6:09:26 AM

The makers of Wine claim that version 1.0 is the first such "stable" release and have said that although compatibility is not perfect, thousands of applications are reported to "work very well."

Member and former president of Linux Australia Jonathon Oxer told ZDNet.com.au that the Wine project is "an attempt to make Windows irrelevant."

"Essentially, it's an effort to supplant the underlying operating system layer and allow Windows software to run on a Linux platform without requiring Windows to be installed," he said.

A challenge for the Wine project is creating libraries that perfectly emulate Windows libraries.

"It never will be stable because the target keeps moving. As each new version of Windows comes out, the underlying libraries are also changed and so, Wine has the same problem as a typical Windows developer who is attempting to write software to run on Windows," said Oxer.

Oxer said he considers the tool a Linux "migration path" for existing Windows users because they can move their applications across, even where they haven't been designed to run on Linux. Although Wine's original purpose was to provide a compatibility layer for office applications, the most popular use of the tool today is for gamers who want to play Windows games on Linux systems.

The only non-gaming application in Wine's top 10 most popular applications is Adobe Photoshop CS2, which is in second place behind Guild Wars.

Wine, not surprisingly, has been the target of anti-piracy campaigns by Microsoft. In 2005, Wine users were prevented under the Windows Genuine Advantage scheme from receiving Windows updates.

Fellow internet giant Google, however, has chosen to support the program, recently contributing cash to the open source project to ensure that Adobe's Creative Suite software still runs on Linux systems.

A list of Wine-compatible applications can be found here.

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Normal people do not install Windows.
If they use it, they bought it preinstalled. (Read the rest)
Posted by: Update victim Posted on: 07/13/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Ridiculous  croberts | 06/19/08
Still, look at all of the applications that DO work under Wine. That is a  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
And yet still a failure  GuidingLight | 06/19/08
Wine is not a Windows alternative  babylon2233 | 06/19/08
Many "risk there business" on Wine ...  MisterMiester | 06/19/08
Crossover Rocks!  chessmen | 06/20/08
For many applications, Wine works VERY well, as one other poster noted,  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
Depends on the business.  Larsix | 06/19/08
I'll second that!  SpikeyMike | 06/19/08
Windows pacifier maybe...  storm14k | 06/19/08
Unnecessary, maybe, but even so,  markdean | 06/27/08
It's good enough for X% of users today...  dank@... | 06/19/08
One thing that many do not realize is that you can port software to LInux  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
Another great thing about Wine is Wine Lib. With that, you can compile a  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
Normal people don't care.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
IF I am..  cashaww | 06/19/08
You are not correct.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
Normal people...  sbrown@... | 06/19/08
Talking about the old days again.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
There Are No Normal People  debrevisdelafontes | 06/19/08
You don't have to read my posts.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
Not so old days  TtfnJohn | 06/20/08
More blue screen FUD.  osreinstall | 06/20/08
There Are No Normal People  Ole Man | 06/21/08
Yes there are.  osreinstall | 06/21/08
The normal human being on planet Earth...  eMJayy | 07/10/08
I get 'em..  catseverywhere@... | 07/10/08
A rare event  markdean | 06/27/08
Actually, BSODs are NOT History  drprod@... | 07/10/08
Normal people do not install Windows.  Update victim | 07/13/08
The Norm  reedjjjr | 06/19/08
That is your opinion.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
As Linux market share grows, Wine will help vendors port their softare to  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
No they will not.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
I don't think you understand. Wine and WinelLib are two different things.  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
Moving target  SpikeyMike | 06/19/08
I have not used Sybase recently, but I can't imagine they don't have a  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
I understand it just fine.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
You obviously are having trouble comprehending the basics.  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
You have an acceptance problem.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
And who wants to maintain extra computers? Who wants to have to walk down  DonnieBoy | 06/20/08
I am a purist.  osreinstall | 06/20/08
Well, then leave the religion out of it. Who is the God saying that you can  DonnieBoy | 06/20/08
You first.  osreinstall | 06/20/08
Please read the OP before you rant...  MisterMiester | 06/19/08
I'll tell you why  NonZealot | 06/19/08
I have not heard any such reports of Google apps not running well under  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
Only tried Picasa  NonZealot | 06/19/08
Still, I think the Google applications running under Linux using WinLib  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
Did you try it lately?  storm14k | 06/19/08
Fair point  NonZealot | 06/19/08
I read it.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
The applications we are talking about are NOT cloud applications. They are  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
Nice try  osreinstall | 06/19/08
Not made in the USA, not viable?  MisterMiester | 06/19/08
Back on subject, this is about Wine / WineLib. Badmouthing Google does not  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
You guys are praising a solution to a non problem.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
Wine does not have to be perfect to be very useful. If it allows you to run  DonnieBoy | 06/19/08
Not perfect but run flawless.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
200 mbits is "not that fast"?  MisterMiester | 06/20/08
osreinstall: Almost all Linux apps run on Windows, as Gtk and Qt have been  DonnieBoy | 06/20/08
To each there own.  osreinstall | 06/20/08
Must resist...  MisterMiester | 06/20/08
You are the troll.  osreinstall | 06/20/08
osreinstall: What on earth is wrong with Windows applications running on  DonnieBoy | 06/20/08
Compatibility Gamble.  osreinstall | 06/20/08
I agree  ukstar@... | 06/19/08
I tinker myself.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
I agree  AndyCee | 06/20/08
Don't be suprised.  osreinstall | 06/20/08
Its for developers...  storm14k | 06/19/08
Its for everybody.  osreinstall | 06/19/08
Guess we agree to disagree  Penguin Master | 06/20/08
I guess so.  osreinstall | 06/20/08
Just to let you know . . .  fanficbug | 06/21/08
I hope you feel better.  osreinstall | 06/21/08
Wow!  daengbo | 06/28/08
Wee!  osreinstall | 06/29/08
And the winner is...  eMJayy | 07/10/08
I'm not a fan of wine  NonZealot | 06/19/08
Blue Screen?  LakeviewJason | 06/19/08
I think you replied to wrong person happy  NonZealot | 06/19/08
They've been culled...  AndyCee | 06/20/08
I agree somewhat  Larsix | 06/19/08
Years using Linux, I just compile things less than two times  babylon2233 | 06/19/08
Nice compatiblity list.  BroGnorik | 06/19/08
still short  Linux Geek | 06/19/08
RE: First 'stable' Wine puts Windows apps on Linux  sbrown@... | 06/19/08
I have used various versions of WINE since '01,  LazLong | 06/19/08
Wine is for legacy support as all we slowly move away from MS-headlock - NT  raycote | 06/19/08
WINE does not need .NET(.proprietary) support - .Net is not the future! -NT  raycote | 06/19/08
RE: First 'stable' Wine puts Windows apps on Linux  Loverock Davidson | 06/19/08
Sigh  daengbo | 06/28/08
Get out Loveyboy...  deefburger | 07/10/08
Can I run Windows apps on Wine on Linux on my Intel-Mac?  adamsdaddy | 06/19/08
Why not.. Actually there are Crossover Mac and Darwine & other  LazLong | 06/19/08
Someday, Wine may run a Windows program!  trentreviso | 06/19/08
Really...  joeycagle | 06/21/08
Some Windows programs don't do Windows  djchandler | 07/10/08
Great work, nice to see Google onboard  Richard Flude | 06/19/08
Congratulations!  lightsaber777 | 06/19/08
RE: First 'stable' Wine puts Windows apps on Linux  MisterMiester | 06/20/08
Games  shawn_dude | 06/20/08
Food for thoughts...  Mitch 74 | 06/20/08
Current reality  mswift@... | 06/27/08
Current reality (2)  Mitch 74 | 06/28/08
Photoshop is NOT Windows only!  joeycagle | 06/21/08
And I have to ask, who cares?  Spiritusindomit@... | 06/21/08
....  hotpinkflamingo | 06/23/08
MS, XP, Wine and too many whiners  jt@... | 06/24/08
"Bugs"  Pooch666 | 06/27/08
Don't RIA frameworks make this less important anyway?  jpelak | 06/29/08
What a bunch..  zdnet@... | 07/10/08
RE: First 'stable' Wine puts Windows apps on Linux  previso@... | 07/10/08
RE: First 'stable' Wine puts Windows apps on Linux  deefburger | 07/10/08
RE: First 'stable' Wine puts Windows apps on Linux  The Management consultant | 07/10/08
Adobe Creative Suite For Linux  djchandler | 07/10/08
RE: First 'stable' Wine puts Windows apps on Linux  papawdalton | 07/10/08
RE: First 'stable' Wine puts Windows apps on Linux  papawdalton | 07/10/08

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