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By Matt Hines, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Jul 29, 2004 7:05:00 PM

Apple Computer on Thursday issued a scathing response to RealNetworks' move to unlock Apple's proprietary technology and make it possible for people to listen to music in RealNetworks' digital file format on iPod devices.

In a terse statement, a "stunned" Apple accused RealNetworks of adopting the "tactics and ethics of a hacker" with the release of its Harmony software. Harmony allows songs sold via RealNetworks' online store to be played on a variety of portable devices, including Apple's iPod and Microsoft-compatible rivals.

Apple threatened to block access to the iPod using Harmony the next time it updates the software used to run the device. The company last week unveiled the fourth generation of the trend-setting music player.

"It is highly likely that Real's Harmony technology will cease to work with current and future iPods," the company said in its statement.

In addition, Apple said it is investigating the implications of Real's software strategy under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and other laws. The DMCA broadly restricts the bypassing of copy-protection technologies used in DVDs and in some music CDs and software programs.

RealNetworks has been selling songs from its digital song store since January, but the files previously could be played only on a few portable devices. Apple has refused to provide licenses to companies seeking iPod compatibility, and RealNetworks did not seek permission before releasing the software.

Later on Thursday, RealNetworks issued its own statement in response to Apple's accusations. The company contends that consumers, not Apple, should be the ones controlling which music files can be played on their iPods. And the DMCA is not applicable to Harmony, RealNetworks said, because the antipiracy legislation "explicitly allows the creation of interoperable software."

RealNetworks said that it has no plans to change the application and that Harmony was created "in a well-established tradition of fully legal, independently developed paths to achieve compatibility."

Harmony automatically changes songs created in other formats into files that will play on an iPod. Since Apple refused to license its FairPlay copy-protection software to RealNetworks, the company had its engineers create their own version of the application in order to make the device play them back. Although the company said this action wasn't technically "reverse engineering," legal experts have observed that Apple may have some recourse if it decides to pursue the matter aggressively.

But one industry watcher was uncertain how strong a case Apple might have under DMCA, even though the company has had success defending its trademarks, as in 2000 when it reached settlements with several hardware makers accused of selling knockoffs of its iMac computers.

Regardless of whether Apple goes to court, it's likely that the company has little to worry about from the RealNetworks technology, said Tim Deal, an analyst with Technology Business Research in Hampton, N.H.

"I think the public will see this as sour grapes, since Real couldn't reach a deal with Apple," he said. "I'm not sure there are that many people out there who really want to work with multiple music platforms."

Apple does need to defend its proprietary iPod technology, Deal said, since the device's top selling point has been the integrated package of the music player and music files sold over the company's iTunes digital music service. But since Apple counts on iTunes primarily as a driver of iPod sales, Deal predicted that the company's profits won't suffer because of Harmony.

"Real is looking for music store revenue, whereas Apple really uses iTunes just to sell more iPods," he said. "As long as people are still buying iPods, the immediate threat posed by (Harmony) would not seem all that significant."

CNET News.com's John Borland contributed to this report.

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The DMCA abused again! Tim Patterson   | 07/29/04
Re: The DMCA abused again! PottHead   | 07/29/04
but where is the DMCA violation? ryusen   | 07/29/04
Playing The Same Hand ParadigmOdyssey   | 07/30/04
Actually ParadigmOdyssey   | 07/30/04
Really? tgrady   | 07/30/04
Vendor lock-in? How... mzarra   | 07/29/04
It is vendor lock-in voska   | 07/29/04
Definately Not. ollie_z   | 07/29/04
Apple is not wrong... ryusen   | 07/29/04
True... ollie_z   | 07/30/04
Apple didn't write the DMCA BitTwiddler   | 07/29/04
your kidding right? ryusen   | 07/29/04
The DMCA was designed to combat copyright infringement voska   | 07/29/04
Companies run for legal cover PmAc_z   | 07/29/04
Go, go DMCA!!! Jomo_z   | 07/29/04
what? doh123   | 07/29/04
How are there management stupid? dave95   | 07/29/04
not stupid, but lame... ryusen   | 07/29/04
Why should Apple care what I put on my I-POD? voska   | 07/29/04
The answer is quite simple why Apple cares... mlindl   | 07/29/04
I find the opposite actually voska   | 07/30/04
Poor argument johnnyu   | 07/30/04
Not A Very Intelligent Statement xero11   | 07/29/04
My reply d_jedi   | 07/29/04
You Make A Good Point . . . xero11   | 07/29/04
Eww WMP files. Rick_K   | 07/29/04
Its backwards engineering, not hacking johnnyu   | 07/30/04
It's hard not to laugh Chad_z   | 07/29/04
Apple is not a monopoly mzarra   | 07/29/04
monopoly no, anti competitive yes prong@...   | 07/29/04
You need to stop smoking that crack Rick_K   | 07/29/04
Apple lax57_z   | 08/01/04
Depends on how you define the market rapson   | 07/29/04
I knew the DMCA would come up Arrg   | 07/29/04
something is wrong with the ipod? doh123   | 07/29/04
There is something wrong with iTunes TechDiva_z   | 07/29/04
something wrong will ALL music players... ryusen   | 07/29/04
So all your music... ollie_z   | 07/29/04
I use itunes Arrg   | 07/29/04
They will when the can't get song X voska   | 07/29/04
is everyone jumping the gun? doh123   | 07/29/04
Not if Apple follows in MicroSoft's footsteps! kd5auq   | 07/29/04
I can say it, do you know what it means? mzarra   | 07/29/04
Huzzah! ollie_z   | 07/29/04
Merriam-Webster says TechDiva_z   | 07/29/04
Flame Bait nomorems   | 07/29/04
Hey TechDiva rapson   | 07/29/04
that's nothing... ryusen   | 07/29/04
Monopoly middle of nowhere   | 07/29/04
I'm 'stunned' at Apple's response d_jedi   | 07/29/04
I agree 100%! worknman   | 07/29/04
Again they are protecting their business! dave95   | 07/29/04
I think it's a bad choice worknman   | 07/29/04
Here's a novel concept dave95   | 07/29/04
i don't care what their reasons are... ryusen   | 07/29/04
I guess...ah, whatever! ollie_z   | 07/30/04
re: ryusen   | 07/30/04
Sounds familar lengua99   | 08/09/04
For ZZ & Leguna (did I spell that right?) ollie_z   | 08/10/04
How about Rick_K   | 07/29/04
History johnnyu   | 07/30/04
I'll Agree el1jones   | 07/29/04
Just imagine TechDiva_z   | 07/29/04
OK... Yen_z   | 07/29/04
Correction... Yen_z   | 07/29/04
in this case... ryusen   | 07/29/04
If Apple refused to help then Real is clear of the DMCA voska   | 07/29/04
Can we say IM battle? kb0old1978   | 07/29/04
Apple (the pot) Microsoft (the kettle) Alpha_Female   | 07/29/04
What has MS to do with this in any way? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/29/04
Elementary my dear Watson Squawkbox   | 07/29/04
Microsoft's fault BruceWheelock@...   | 07/29/04
OMG he said Gigli Squawkbox   | 07/29/04
You're both off-base Fred Fredrickson   | 07/29/04
Fred Fred Fred calm down I am not attacking Apple Squawkbox   | 07/29/04
Actually it was Apple who did that voska   | 07/29/04
Same ole same ole FilledOut   | 07/29/04
Neither is yours.. d_jedi   | 07/29/04
Whoops! d_jedi   | 07/29/04
Why doesn't Real create it's own market? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/29/04
There you go again.. d_jedi   | 07/29/04
Gotta agree with Ax TWRX   | 07/29/04
I'm sorry, but this is NOT beneficial ... worknman   | 07/29/04
Everything in life is give and take...especially business Laff   | 07/29/04
Poor Excuse nikoli   | 07/29/04
Only time will tell..At this point it does not seem Laff   | 07/29/04
NO its not! dave95   | 07/29/04
Look at it this way ... worknman   | 07/29/04
$.99 tunes going away? TechDiva_z   | 07/29/04
Look at it from a different perspective... Laff   | 07/29/04
oerhaps, but... ryusen   | 07/29/04
Ah..but what percentage are we talking about here? Laff   | 07/30/04
re: laff ryusen   | 07/30/04
It's called choice? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/29/04
Here is the difference ... worknman   | 07/29/04
Well traveling to another store... Laff   | 07/29/04
Again, so what? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/29/04
Yes but you can buy food elsewhere voska   | 07/29/04
Lousy argument quietLee   | 07/29/04
Duh johnnyu   | 07/30/04
The iPod also plays... Rick_K   | 07/29/04
but... ryusen   | 07/29/04
So why is this Apple's fault alone? Does not Laff   | 07/30/04
Because of the response johnnyu   | 07/30/04
listen to my real argument... ryusen   | 07/30/04
Just for you... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/29/04
and so? ryusen   | 07/29/04
Hogwash... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/29/04
what belongs to apple... ryusen   | 07/30/04
STOP THIS ZZ!! You are having me agree with AX Laff   | 07/30/04
Isn't that exactly how capitolism normally works? voska   | 07/30/04
Like I said "The two extremes are wrong" Laff   | 07/30/04
re: pepsi and coke... ryusen   | 07/30/04
ok.. let's get one thing clear... ryusen   | 07/30/04
They did. BUT, John E Wahd   | 07/29/04
Real has made big mistakes.. d_jedi   | 07/29/04
Amen. (NT) John E Wahd   | 07/29/04
not that you are concerned with the consumer at all... ryusen   | 07/29/04
Bzzzztttt. Wrong (As usual) No_Ax_to_Grind   | 07/29/04
True but wouldn't it be nice voska   | 07/30/04
It would be nice if everyone just got along too... Laff   | 07/30/04
is your only method of debate ryusen   | 07/30/04
Corporations do that all the time voska   | 07/29/04
I called this the other day prong@...   | 07/29/04
People are forgetting the point Bill_gates_Is_SATAN   | 07/29/04
Uhh...probably because... KOS-MOS   | 07/29/04
Why no winamp ibabadur1   | 07/29/04
Say what? KOS-MOS   | 07/29/04
but... ryusen   | 07/29/04
WINAMP is the best Bill_gates_Is_SATAN   | 07/30/04
Pardon me? Counselor_Beep   | 07/29/04
Please get a sense of humor Bill_gates_Is_SATAN   | 07/30/04
Who said anything about MAC? Bill_gates_Is_SATAN   | 07/30/04
Apple's response is puzzling... LongShipUser   | 07/29/04
My iPod doesn't belong to Apple mckoder   | 07/29/04
Couldn't Agree More nikoli   | 07/29/04
Apple is making a Big Mac of a Mistake! Counselor_Beep   | 07/29/04
You might want to check your facts. Rick_K   | 07/29/04
MS only wants MS software to run on Windows nomorems   | 07/29/04
Not true rapson   | 07/29/04
Apple iPod is a fad ibabadur1   | 07/29/04
Apple should sue TWRX   | 07/29/04
Of course, you're right ... worknman   | 07/29/04
Sorry dude but Apple is no charity.... Laff   | 07/29/04
True, But That's Where The Argument Starts nikoli   | 07/29/04
That depends..If Apple can increase it's song selection Laff   | 07/29/04
What If Your Entire Music Library... nikoli   | 07/29/04
Again what percentage of potential customers Laff   | 07/30/04
Apple's being foolish voska   | 07/29/04
IBM was foolish not to protect her PC hardware tech Laff   | 07/30/04
Goofed up contract voska   | 07/30/04
look at your profit arguement... ryusen   | 07/29/04
Easy Answer nikoli   | 07/29/04
Job's ego is a double edges sword..... Laff   | 07/30/04
i would... ryusen   | 07/30/04
Apple Should Get Over It Yehuda Mann   | 07/29/04
have you been payign attention? ryusen   | 07/29/04
People with sucky technology supoman   | 07/29/04
Why Apple And Their iPod S*ck Balls nikoli   | 07/29/04
Um..unlike many CD players ..the iPod is mobile Laff   | 07/29/04
Maybe because you aren't thinking nikoli   | 07/29/04
Yeah I have 3 portable CD players voska   | 07/29/04
Nikoli..gumba! We both seem to be missing each others point Laff   | 07/30/04
My point voska   | 07/30/04
I agree with your point with one simple variation. Laff   | 07/30/04
These LIcensing Deals... johnnyu   | 07/30/04
weak johnnyu   | 07/30/04
Not challenged nomorems   | 07/29/04
What about wma files? Rick_K   | 07/29/04
THEY don't understand? JimmyJames   | 07/30/04
Apple fans tend to get blind over apple justoneperson   | 07/29/04
A better example would be ... worknman   | 07/29/04
Good one - software is for hardware justoneperson   | 07/29/04
Yet MS does this all the time. Rick_K   | 07/29/04
You are correct alterego_z   | 07/29/04
That's right justoneperson   | 07/29/04
Isn't that what other companies do? justoneperson   | 07/29/04
Apple don't be Microsoft nograin   | 07/29/04
No they aren't. gordon@...   | 07/29/04
Large corporate or not! dave95   | 07/29/04
Is it lunacy, ignorance,... MacCanuck   | 07/29/04
It's probably a bit of both justoneperson   | 07/29/04
I guess you don't own an iPod Rick_K   | 07/29/04
A few things wrong with that... rafe01   | 07/30/04
hypocrite gordon@...   | 07/29/04
Response ... worknman   | 07/29/04
Response ... worknman   | 07/29/04