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By Ina Fried, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Jan 14, 2005 12:00:00 PM

Windows developer Alex Gorbatchev just bought his first Mac.

The Toronto resident said he has long wanted to see how the other side lives, but the iMac was "too expensive a toy."

"I've never had my hands on a Mac and I'm really curious to get my hands on one," Gorbatchev said in an e-mail.

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What's new:
The much-anticipated Mac Mini has arrived, and some Windows users who've toyed with the idea of a Mac are ready to open their wallets.

Bottom line:
Apple figures many Windows users have been interested in a Mac, but were daunted by the price tag. Now that the cheaper Mac Mini has arrived, how many PC users will switch?

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Gorbatchev is just the kind of person Apple Computer hoped to appeal to by introducing its $499 Mac Mini. The company reasons that plenty of Windows users have been interested in a Mac but are turned off by the hefty price tag.

The Mac Mini is indeed cheap by Mac standards, though it's still pricier than bottom-of-the-line PCs. That said, analysts say it is just the kind of device that could spur PC-toting iPod owners and others to give the Mac a try--the so called "halo effect" Wall Street has been looking for.

The main question now is just how bright a halo the new machine will shine on its maker.

Needham analyst Charles Wolf said that he now estimates 11 percent of iPod-toting Windows users may buy a Mac now that the Mini is on the market. Before that, he assumed the rate would be closer to 4 percent.

"The iPods only failure has been its inability to stimulate meaningful purchases of Macintoshes," Wolf said in a research note prior to Apple's Wednesday announcement of record sales and earnings. "We believe the Mac Mini will increase the percentage of iPod-toting Windows users who purchase a Mac by almost threefold."

Olly Hodgson is another who says he may switch when the Mini officially goes on sale Jan. 22.

The Cheltenham, England, Web developer says he, too, is considering buying the Mac Mini as a way to try out life as a Mac user.

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"I hear so many good things about Apple's OS X, but I've never actually used it," Hodgson said in an e-mail interview. "With the Mac Mini, I can buy into it cheaply and see if I like it."

If all goes well, Hodgson said, he'll end up with a computer that's just as powerful as his two Windows-based PCs, only smaller and quieter. If not, he says it will still be useful for testing how Web sites he creates look on a Mac.

While Gorbatchev and Hodgson were attracted by the computer's lower price, the Mini's small size also is also drawing attention from potential buyers.

San Francisco production manager Paul Hocker is thinking about getting a Mac Mini for his parents. They spend half the year in Virginia and the other half in Maine and currently have a PC in each place so they don't have to lug a large computer back and forth.

"Since they have a monitor and keyboard already in both locations, they could easily take just the Mini with them," Hocker said. "By only using one computer, they will have all their files, e-mail, games, etc. on the one computer that they have with them."

If Hocker does buy Mom and Dad a Mac Mini, it won't be his first Mini purchase. He already bought one for himself. The machine will probably act as an iTunes music server, replacing an aging G3-based iMac. Hocker said he already has three Macintoshes in his house, not counting the Power Mac G4 that belongs to his boyfriend.

Gorbatchev said he's not yet totally sure how he'll use his new Mac Mini. He already has two Windows laptops and three desktop PCs.

His initial thought: Use the Mac Mini as a media PC, depending on how quiet the machine. How he uses it will also depend, he said, on the quality of the audio that can be sent from the headphone jack.

"An optical output would've greatly increased its chances (in) the media PC area," he said. "I was pretty disappointed that Apple didn't see this aspect."

The Mini does have its limitations--it's hard to upgrade, has a comparatively slow processor, and of course, as Apple CEO Steve Jobs said Tuesday, it's BYODKM (Bring Your Own Display, Keyboard and Mouse).

Jupiter Research analyst Michael Gartenberg said most people who have a keyboard mouse and display also have a PC connected to those things.

Gartenberg added that although some people may need to spend more than the $499 to buy a keyboard, mouse and monitor, the low sticker price breaks an important psychological barrier.

"There's been a lot of interest in the Mac for many years now," Gartenberg said, but most people "just didn’t want to pay for it."

Those who don’t want to pull the plug on their Windows machines have options that don't require buying a new set of peripherals to make the Mini usable. St. Louis graphic designer Sharon Heisel is considering getting a Mini to sit alongside her PC. A device called a KVM (keyboard, Video and Mouse) switch would allow her to toggle back and forth between the two machines.

If she does get a Mini, she would stick to the PC for her design work, but use the Mac for Web surfing and e-mail, due to its better record when it comes to viruses and security.

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Posted by: cashaww Posted on: 02/02/05 You are currently: Logged In | Log out
Gorbatchev tdml   | 01/14/05
How big will the Mini be? Real World   | 01/14/05
Then why do you keep clicking on the story links ? BitTwiddler   | 01/14/05
well... Real World   | 01/14/05
No matter what side of the fence you are on...you Laff   | 01/14/05
It will be big mlindl   | 01/14/05
Yeah...we just had a meeting here last night and Laff   | 01/14/05
Let us all hope it is big Bill_gates_Is_SATAN   | 01/14/05
Agreed dave95   | 01/15/05
Keep those fingers crossed Joe Blow_z   | 01/14/05
Sorry Blow but NO you once again only focus on part Laff   | 01/14/05
OS X is more secure matson_z   | 01/14/05
OK give us an example we can test Richard Flude   | 01/14/05
Well at least you should speak from experience Hard Cider   | 01/17/05
From Experience Confused by religion   | 01/17/05
GO cashaww   | 02/02/05
RE: It will be big JakAttak   | 01/14/05
For those with spare hardware, oh, yes! JonathonDoe   | 01/14/05
Don't let Vily hear you say that...snicker:) Laff   | 01/14/05
your still not getting your g5 Net-Tech_z   | 01/14/05
and? doh123   | 01/14/05
Yes, I know, but I love my G4 powerbook... JonathonDoe   | 01/14/05
Children want to play with toys (Mac mini, etc.), adults – with PC. Vily Clay   | 01/15/05
Vily you're just a sourpuss hipparchus2000   | 01/15/05
hipparchus2000, you trust Steve jobs too much. Vily Clay   | 01/15/05
Not him SC-man   | 01/15/05
SC-man, do you have any arguments about the issue? (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/15/05
any arguments about the issue SC-man   | 01/16/05
same thing according the thesaurus voska   | 01/17/05
SC-man, since when the word ‘debate’ is talking about nothing? (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/17/05
Please cashaww   | 02/02/05
The mini is good if... Michael Kelly   | 01/14/05
ALL COMPUTERS SHOULD LOOK AS GOOD!! cybershoplifter   | 01/14/05
Many PCs do look that good sishio   | 01/14/05
Not even close.... BitTwiddler   | 01/14/05
Goes far beyond Shuttle sishio   | 01/14/05
Better challenge tic swayback   | 01/14/05
Yeah but what processor... dave95   | 01/15/05
A few advises. chiishen   | 01/14/05
Way to go Apple! George Mitchell   | 01/14/05
Personally I think Macs were affordable before the mini voska   | 01/14/05
But not a commodity Ken_z   | 01/14/05
Here is where Apple is at: TWRX   | 01/14/05
How big will the Mini be? Loverock Davidson   | 01/14/05
New Nominee: Master of the Obvious Award bidemytime   | 01/14/05
He's also somewhat wrong... BitTwiddler   | 01/14/05
Most folks I know do, but then, a KVM is cheap alternative. JonathonDoe   | 01/14/05
G5 Processor for Mac Mini, please! Grayson Peddie   | 01/14/05
The Heat Sink wouldn't even fit in the case :) BitTwiddler   | 01/14/05
Attach your favorite sound card Len Rooney   | 01/14/05
Bigger priorities tic swayback   | 01/14/05
That could change voska   | 01/17/05
Yes I can see it now....MS in India dropping it's current Laff   | 01/17/05
kiosks and robots marmar_z   | 01/14/05
"Apple didn't design the Mini to be modified doesn't mean it won't happen" BitTwiddler   | 01/14/05
Hacking? cashaww   | 01/14/05
misuse of the term "hacking" marmar_z   | 01/14/05
Hacking is correct Len Rooney   | 01/14/05
And one good idea bidemytime   | 01/14/05
Good Point... BitTwiddler   | 01/14/05
Bingo! cashaww   | 01/14/05
Here's the bad news part j.m.galvin   | 01/14/05
It depends what you want out of it Michael Kelly   | 01/14/05
512 will work well Ken_z   | 01/14/05
Memory tic swayback   | 01/14/05
Here's an interesting comparison j.m.galvin   | 01/14/05
This is why rcark01   | 01/14/05
Nice attempt... dave95   | 01/15/05
dave95, you would be smarter than a monkey – you’d have arguments (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/15/05
Galvin, Vily, and that other guy/gal...I myself have Laff   | 01/15/05
Laff, where are your single G4 vs. PC arguments? Vily Clay   | 01/15/05
must not feed, must not feed.... Vily have you ever owned a Mac? dave95   | 01/15/05
dave95 relax, you already proved you cannot think on your own. (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/15/05
sigh...OK Vily I'll give it oine more try. The Mac Mini Laff   | 01/16/05
Linux is a worm-resistant OS. Cheaper solutions are not good? Why? (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/16/05
Vily you must me full by now.....hehe dave95   | 01/16/05
Vily you know darn well that I am a huge supporter Laff   | 01/17/05
Laff, why you wanna rip off Linux users? (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/17/05
Vily that is just a weird question.....I have NO interest Laff   | 01/18/05
Laff, I'm surprised at you! Spoon Jabber   | 01/18/05
Laff, you push a toy - overpriced Mac mini. Why not real things - PCs? (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/18/05
I'm not pushing the Mac or the Mac Mini..it's just a Laff   | 01/21/05
Mac mini vs. iMac is overpriced. Check it. (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/21/05
Ouch!!! PA-ITGuy   | 01/16/05
On second though... PA-ITGuy   | 01/16/05
It's a copy rcark01   | 01/14/05
ive seen a few mini-itx machines, but they tend to be much larger than mini hipparchus2000   | 01/14/05
or remember the Cube tdml   | 01/14/05
Here ya go rcark01   | 01/15/05
Well I guess it's true..beauty is in the eye of the beholder Laff   | 01/15/05
please rcark01   | 01/15/05
Wanna bet? Laff   | 01/16/05
Yes rcark01   | 01/16/05
OK..set the terms and conditions and "IF" they are Laff   | 01/17/05
He's got a point voska   | 01/17/05
It’s good if Mac mini would be just twice slower than $500 PC. (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/17/05
Vily even "IF" what you say about he Mac mini's speed Laff   | 01/18/05
Mac is insecure & overpriced but hackers are too lazy. (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/18/05
Matters not the reason(s) as long as it is NOT hacked! Laff   | 01/21/05
But the point is Mac security - nothing to be proud of. (NT) Vily Clay   | 01/21/05
We've heard that before... David Parker   | 01/19/05
theyre similar size to Mac Cube (5 yrs ago). Mac mini is 1/3 size of these hipparchus2000   | 01/15/05
corection rcark01   | 01/15/05
You are getting a bit off there buddy. Laff   | 01/16/05
correction rcark01   | 01/16/05
Not only have I been inside many of them..I use to own Laff   | 01/17/05
Yes the stores do install them voska   | 01/17/05
Apple Cube on it's side... MacCanuck   | 01/18/05
Of what, the cube? google it! dave95   | 01/15/05
The cube rcark01   | 01/15/05
It's a simple reliable system made for the user who Laff   | 01/16/05
ha rcark01   | 01/16/05
we'll see hipparchus2000   | 01/16/05
fool rcark01   | 01/16/05
multitrack on pc - yeah right hipparchus2000   | 01/17/05
But let's get back to your original statement dave95   | 01/16/05
Every OEM does that voska   | 01/17/05
Yeah I know dave95   | 01/17/05
From what I've seen this memory slot does NOT seem Laff   | 01/17/05
Apple allows opening j.m.galvin   | 01/17/05
Did read the warranty carefully? voska   | 01/17/05
Yeah. It's OK j.m.galvin   | 01/17/05
is the mini another iPod dcbatchelor   | 01/18/05
Using a mini to upgrader older iMacs? David Parker   | 01/19/05
hmm...wish granted swede_z   | 01/19/05
It's big enough to provoke Wintel "Patriots" already! swede_z   | 01/19/05
APPLE COPIES AGAIN! rcark01   | 01/20/05
Well if it is a copy..at least Apple's copy is GOOD looking! Laff   | 01/21/05
Compare the sizes Ken_z   | 01/22/05
As big as a gnat's ass... Feldwebel Wolfenstool   | 01/23/05
A gnat's ass logically must be like a Time Lords Tardis Laff   | 01/23/05
Wait for complaints from people weaned on Windows GFW_z   | 01/26/05

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