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By Stephen Shankland
Posted on ZDNet News: Sep 23, 2005 10:06:00 PM

SAN JOSE, Calif.--Increasingly, the personal computer is a relic.

So asserted Jonathan Schwartz, president of server and software maker Sun Microsystems. Instead, what has become important are Web services on the Internet and the mobile phones most will use to access them, he argued at a Friday speech here at a meeting of the American India Foundation.

"The majority of the applications that will drive the next wave of innovation will be services, not applications that run on the desktop. The real innovation is occurring in the network and the network services," Schwartz said.

Sun, which sells the back-end infrastructure that powers such services, has promulgated variations of this message for years. But there's evidence the idea has some merit.

Schwartz points to the increasing wealth and power of companies, like eBay, Google, Yahoo and Amazon.com, that profit from free services available over the network. Among his audience, many more people said they'd rather have access to Internet services than their desktop computing applications. And Microsoft--the company with the biggest financial stake in the PC software business--has struggled to cope with the arrival of Web services.

The threat to PCs is twofold. Not only are services moving to the network, Schwartz said, but PCs won't be the way people use those services--particularly in poorer areas of the world that have risen higher up Sun's corporate priority list. Instead, that access will come through mobile phones.

"The majority of the world will first experience the Internet through their handset," Schwartz said.

When it comes to aiding developing regions' digital development, "Our collective generation believes the desktop PC is the most important thing to give to people. I don't buy that. The most important thing to give is access to the Internet."

Since Schwartz became Sun's president last year, the company has touted a campaign to bridge the digital divide, for example by promoting freely available open-source software such as OpenOffice.org. Schwartz doesn't pretend his company's motives are altruistic, though.

"Clearly it's in my company's best interest to have 50 million people in sub-Saharan Africa join the network," Schwartz said.

But he does argue that there's more to be gained from pervasive network access than just a restoration of Sun's financial health and improvement to its stagnant stock price. The network also helps bring value to society, he said.

"The Internet has clearly become, as electricity and railroads did before it, a social utility," Schwartz said.

One case in point was visible with the online classified ad site Craigslist during the effort to cope with the Katrina hurricane that devastated states on the Gulf Coast. And he expects more with the approach of the next storm, Rita.

"The Internet--and one organization in particular called Craigslist--played an absolutely central role to recovery efforts," Schwartz said. "While the Federal Emergency Management Agency was stumbling and trying to figure out how to present its information, Craigslist was providing a connection vehicle for people who wanted to find their friends, their family members, their pets."

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I work for a small business. I would NEVER leave every PC at every location at the mercy of the internet being connected 24/7. It quits. DSL/cable modems die. The connection slows up to the point to w... (Read the rest)
Posted by: JimSatterfieldW Posted on: 09/27/05 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Fool talks, nobody listens...  Mike Cox | 09/23/05
Fool talks, nobody listens...hah!  White_Tech_Guy | 09/23/05
Your MCSEs are exposed  matrixdomain | 09/23/05
Maybe you are just too dead serious  gagnon_pascal@... | 09/24/05
On today's Menu: Flounder  nucrash | 09/25/05
Sun is dreaming  CobraA1 | 09/23/05
Tiny keyboard  3D0G | 09/24/05
The PC as we know it is changing.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Re: The PC as we know it is changing.  CobraA1 | 09/24/05
I agree  darreno1 | 09/25/05
PC's are yesterday because Sun doesn't profit from them  balsover | 09/23/05
No, PCs have a lot of disadvantages. Number one is administration & backup.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
PCs are not going away  netrayder | 09/26/05
Network computer are decades old technology  osreinstall | 09/23/05
Voting "No"  IT_User | 09/23/05
But you have to be connected  osreinstall | 09/23/05
Clarification  osreinstall | 09/23/05
True, and that was a problem  IT_User | 09/25/05
It will always be a symbol of freedom  osreinstall | 09/25/05
It is a lot easier to lump a phone and folding keyboard..  B.O.F.H. | 09/23/05
Bah  CobraA1 | 09/23/05
I want my PC to do anything I want.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
The article is about smartphones, not thin clients (NC).  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Whatever Dude  osreinstall | 09/24/05
You don't get it, do you?  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
You never have.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
osreinstall, is AutoCAD the only application that you know/use?  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Is receptionist programs the only ones you know about.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
osreinstall, this has nothing to do with the old NCs!  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
The article was not very specific  osreinstall | 09/25/05
You are ignoring advancing technology.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
You are ignoring retreating prices.  Knorthern Knight | 09/24/05
You are ignoring administration and backup costs.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Technology is advancing there also  CobraA1 | 09/24/05
i agree  netrayder | 09/26/05
what do network cozthat can fit in yourmputer have to do with smartphones?  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Subject line got hammered....  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Schwartz is talking about elimination of the PC  osreinstall | 09/24/05
Taking care of a PC is NOT easy. And they have limited storage and power.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
I think you are confused, NC's are gone!  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Maybe for you it isn't.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
There is no bandwidth BOFH.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
The network is getting more reliable and faster and cheaper every day  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Tried a few  osreinstall | 09/24/05
osreinstall, do you know how to sue a phone?  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
BOFH, Do you know how to tunafish?  osreinstall | 09/24/05
Re: Taking care of a PC is NOT that easy  CobraA1 | 09/25/05
Her new HP laptop has not crashed yet, 3 months and counting.  DonnieBoy | 09/25/05
so cellphone/comps are going to be unreliable  netrayder | 09/26/05
Terminals were very expensive also  osreinstall | 09/24/05
With LTSP, terminals are dirt cheap now, even with new hardware.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Not enough bandwith on LAN for heavy engineering  osreinstall | 09/24/05
LTSP words extremely well for all common applications.  DonnieBoy | 09/25/05
No it doesn't  osreinstall | 09/25/05
Sure.......  tslocum7 | 09/26/05
or leave in the hard drive  netrayder | 09/26/05
That works too  IT_User | 09/26/05
PCs are very expensive  IT_User | 09/25/05
And so is the Mainframe to connect to.  osreinstall | 09/25/05
Mainframe?  IT_User | 09/25/05
Or a cluster  osreinstall | 09/25/05
Sounds reasonable  IT_User | 09/26/05
i've used nc's, they suck  netrayder | 09/26/05
Fit to the situation  IT_User | 09/26/05
You are way wrong  osreinstall | 09/24/05
We will have cached applications. So it all works ofline.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
There isn't enough bandwidth period.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
My network connection keeps getting faster and more reliable.  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Let me know when you hit 1000 mbs then well talk.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
Search, email, google earch, online ordering, work find with DSL and Cable  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
You must have stock in Sun only.  osreinstall | 09/24/05
terabytes of online storage  netrayder | 09/26/05
no 404 errors?  netrayder | 09/26/05
He's SOME wrong  IT_User | 09/26/05
He wasn't too technically specific  osreinstall | 09/26/05
What planet do you live on?  JimSatterfieldW | 09/27/05
Betcha Paul Murphy would just love this happy  Mark Miller | 09/24/05
Every NEW TECH always predicted to obliterate the old...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 09/24/05
Perhaps  3D0G | 09/24/05
He is referring to smartphones.  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Spreadsheets?  3D0G | 09/24/05
You should look at more phones!  B.O.F.H. | 09/24/05
Point taken  3D0G | 09/25/05
We will have new catagories of applications online, that do NOT work ofline  DonnieBoy | 09/24/05
Which complements more than it negates  CobraA1 | 09/26/05
hear hear  netrayder | 09/26/05
google search taxing your computer?  netrayder | 09/26/05
The MAIN reason that PCs  James Dean_z | 09/24/05
Servers can run on PCs and phones  Casandro | 09/25/05
Businesses are different from individuals  B.O.F.H. | 09/25/05
So Sun is making a priority of the poor people...  Anton Philidor | 09/24/05
Sun is so pathetic  andyhayes1 | 09/24/05
Don't we hear all of this before???  glennhkboy | 09/25/05
Yup.  CobraA1 | 09/25/05
Sun is So Yesterday  John Zern | 09/25/05
Some of it sound, but not Sun  Boot_Agnostic | 09/26/05
Can't sell to Desktops, call them relic's  maddog@... | 09/26/05
I want my stuff on my machine  rmansfield | 09/26/05
SUN is so yesterday!  Protector | 09/26/05
Are they still selling "the network is the computer"?  JonathonDoe | 09/26/05
Heard this before.  tslocum7 | 09/26/05

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