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By Michael Singer
Posted on ZDNet News: Oct 13, 2005 11:44:00 PM

Intel can be great to work with--but the company can also drop you like a hot potato, says the founder of VooDoo PC.

Rahul Sood, who serves as president and chief technology officer of the Canadian PC maker, said Wednesday that Intel has applied pressure in the past to change the "ratio" of Advanced Micro Devices processors to Intel chips in VooDoo systems.

"There have been times when Intel has requested that we build our ratio between the number of our AMD computers and the number of our Intel computers higher in favor of Intel--many times, as a matter of fact," Sood wrote in an e-mail to CNET News.com. "We've had allocation issues, where if we don't play ball, we don't get our allocation (of Intel chips). When Intel WAS supporting us they did an awesome job. When they stopped, it was noticeable."

Intel declined to comment on Sood's comments.

Intel's treatment of PC makers and dealers is at the core of an antitrust lawsuit filed by AMD in June. AMD alleges that Intel violates antitrust law by "coercing" PC makers to increase its market share, using marketing dollars or withholding chips and technical information. Intel hotly denies this, stating that its marketing programs and practices are fully legal and that AMD's problems stem from that company's own miscalculations.

PC and chip executives, mostly speaking anonymously, have said that Intel can be a tough negotiator, but they've also said they didn't feel violated by the chipmaker's business practices. Besides, the marketing dollars and tech help came in handy, some said.

Earlier in the week, Sood penned a blog commenting on the recent developments between AMD and Intel. He has been critical of Intel's practices of late and recently wrote an article for Hexus.net titled, "Is it time for Dell to file for divorce?"

The executive recalled his own experience when Intel first began to woo gamer PC companies.

"A number of years ago I remember Intel called us and said they wanted to 'engage' with us. They wanted to work with us on reviews, sampling, marketing, etc.," Sood wrote in his blog. "It was a shock, because up until then Intel never really called on us pro-actively...It seemed as if they wanted to elevate themselves as the 'Ultimate Gaming CPU.'"

"Other than the odd call from our (Intel) sales rep we aren't treated at the same level as we were before," he added in the blog.

Subsequently, Dell entered the market for gamer PCs and the calls from Intel stopped coming as frequently, he said.

"I don't feel slighted by Intel as much as I feel that once they got what they wanted they just forgot about us," Sood wrote in the e-mail. "I believe they wanted to influence gaming to gain some respect amongst gamers. Once Dell took the reins, they just left us wondering what happened."

Dell spokesman Venancio Figueroa said the company would not comment on "competitive rhetoric" and declined to comment on AMD's accusations.

CNET News.com's Michael Kanellos contributed to this report.

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AMD should sue DELL as conspirator  sharikou | 10/13/05
Fortunately...  A_Pickle | 10/13/05
RE: "Fortunately..."  ajapierce | 10/14/05
You've nailed the point head on.  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
I knew an African-American in 1963...  The King's Servant | 10/14/05
DELL as conspirator? Then sue Dell's customers too  John Zern | 10/13/05
dunno John...  Monkey_MCSE | 10/13/05
Dunno Monkey...  A_Pickle | 10/13/05
apparently, pickles can't read  Monkey_MCSE | 10/13/05
As far as I know, they can't.  A_Pickle | 10/13/05
Haven't run into the GX280 problems  Real World | 10/14/05
If mjb is right  CobraA1 | 10/14/05
Recall vs. service  robgroh | 10/14/05
They acknowledge it  Real World | 10/14/05
Have to agree with A Pickle  John Zern | 10/14/05
Anecdotal evidence...  ajole | 10/14/05
Our Micron laptops  Real World | 10/14/05
And where are these machines being used  John Zern | 10/14/05
Dell service for bad computers  rwe9@... | 10/14/05
The point is...  ajole | 10/14/05
Intels behavior, is illegal  rwe9@... | 10/14/05
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Hoooboy...  A_Pickle | 10/13/05
what?  stormdoor | 10/13/05
Maybe I do.  A_Pickle | 10/13/05
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When a windows user...  wizzzer | 10/14/05
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What?  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
You are so right, some of the time,  ajole | 10/14/05
Market allocation is a crime  sharikou | 10/13/05
Doubt it  John Zern | 10/13/05
YOu need a new law book, or at least one law book.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
There are so many companies that can prove Intel...  realitycheck101 | 10/13/05
Any evidence to back that claim?  A_Pickle | 10/13/05
It doesn't even need to be better  John Zern | 10/13/05
It SHOULD BE criminal if...  flatliner | 10/13/05
Me too.  A_Pickle | 10/13/05
Clearly Violates the Clayton Act  Ed_Meyers | 10/13/05
ED, thats a travesty  Monkey_MCSE | 10/13/05
If.  A_Pickle | 10/13/05
Not exactly...  Thored | 10/14/05
Not necessarily illegal  hoozafrizitz | 10/15/05
It's not better deals cause they want to,..  John Zern | 10/14/05
Best piece of revisionist history I've ever read  Richard Flude | 10/13/05
Wow...  A_Pickle | 10/13/05
what the hell are you going on about  stormdoor | 10/14/05
really_in_a_pickle  CobraA1 | 10/14/05
If you read the history...  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
As one of the masses  ajole | 10/14/05
Wrong. It IS open for discussion...  John Zern | 10/13/05
You Honestly Think Intel and M$ Reads These Posts???  tbbrickster_z | 10/14/05
You honestly think Intel and Microsoft work to hurt consumers?  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
Consumers suffer because INTEL use illegal methods to push crap products  sharikou | 10/13/05
Huh, what stopped you from choosing AMD years ago?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
YOUR RIGHT THEY ARE CRAP  wizzzer | 10/14/05
Would you like to tell the Intel engineers that?  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
Yeah, and does it at only 2200MHz real time  ajole | 10/14/05
At the moment...  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
Intell a good student of Microsloth!  Reverend MacFellow | 10/14/05
Yeah right,  ajole | 10/14/05
Macs?  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
But then again  ajole | 10/14/05
Re: But then again  Mr_Dave | 10/15/05
Clue for ya, Apple CHOSE Intel.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
RE: Intell(sic) a good student of Microsloth!  tbbrickster_z | 10/14/05
Yup. You hate big companies.  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
So what, nothing illegal in his statements.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
You may be right  ajole | 10/14/05
Bravo !!! Ajole, Bravo!!! (nt)  tbbrickster_z | 10/14/05
True, the consumer decides the winner.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
Nothing No-Ax, So Long as...  tbbrickster_z | 10/14/05
Mmm...  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
Customer has always had a choice, they chose MS/Intel.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
No, But There Should Be A Choice Allowed To The Consumer  itanalyst | 10/14/05
So who is stopping the consumer. I have no problem buying AMD.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
No, That's Not What I'm Saying  itanalyst | 10/14/05
Umm...  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
Ummm....DUH!  ajole | 10/14/05
Mmm...  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
OEMs offer what people ask for.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
That isn't correct  osreinstall | 10/15/05
Perhaps, Perhaps not...  Zinoron | 10/14/05
Not over until it's over.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
No Desire, Yes...But  itanalyst | 10/14/05
Correct, and AMD will suffer for it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
it is already checkmate for dell  activ8 | 10/16/05
You obviously know what you're talking about...  A_Pickle | 10/17/05
There are laws against...  wizzzer | 10/14/05
There wa no restraint, they made offers AMD couldn't match.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
Your mischaracterization seems almost deliberate.  Zinoron | 10/14/05
No, it's a fact of everyday business.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/05
I'll be surprised to see a reply, but...  Zinoron | 10/14/05
Illegal? Yes. Proven? No.  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
Your logic is impeccable.  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
Old-fashioned vs. Post-modern Capitalism  tbbrickster_z | 10/14/05
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Rahul Sood is God  cyber-shoplifter | 10/14/05
AMD beats Intel in September US retail desktop sales  ~doolittle~ | 10/14/05
Not really.  A_Pickle | 10/14/05
Intel in reteail stores.  thetargos | 10/14/05
INTEL is worse than NAZIs  sharikou | 10/14/05
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An over the top analogy  osreinstall | 10/15/05
Did you read JFTC's findings?  sharikou | 10/16/05
What was the time frame?  osreinstall | 10/16/05
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Indians like INTEL's 150 watts monsters  sharikou | 10/14/05
Power consumption infor for indian folks  sharikou | 10/14/05
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AMD is on its way to 50% market  sharikou | 10/16/05
A lot of people seem to miss the point  M.Fridholm | 10/15/05
Finally...  cobalt54 | 10/15/05
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A lot of positive positives...  Pippeloentje | 10/16/05
But AMD failed Miserably in India ...  Palmist | 10/16/05
Right, Palmist  Pippeloentje | 10/16/05
3rd world suckers always pay more for crap  sharikou | 10/16/05
Sun only ships AMD opterons  rockandpower | 10/16/05
I concur... however...  A_Pickle | 10/17/05
Intel also licenses HDCP for HDMI.  glocks out | 10/19/05
Intel in my gaming system?  b8zs4@... | 10/19/05
AMD vs Intel  Pyrotech_z | 07/07/07

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