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By Robert Lemos
Posted on ZDNet News: Sep 15, 2004 9:59:00 PM

Open-source browsers Mozilla and Firefox have won over a significant number of defectors from Microsoft's Internet Explorer in the past nine months, Web site metrics suggest.

The gains for Firefox, which was released in a version 1.0 preview on Tuesday, and for Mozilla are most noticeable at Web sites popular by geek-chic early adopters. For example, W3Schools.com, a Web development tutorial site found that Mozilla-based browsers were used by 18 percent of its visitors in September, up from 8 percent in January. Internet Explorer use dropped to 75 percent from 84 percent in the same period.

Among CNET News.com readers, site visitors with the Firefox and Mozilla browsers jumped to 18 percent for the first two weeks of September, up from 8 percent in January.

The Mozilla Foundation, which develops both the Mozilla and Firefox browsers and their underlying Gecko browsing engine, has noted that downloads of the Firefox browser have doubled from 3 million for version 0.8 to 6 million for version 0.9. The group said that almost 160,000 people have downloaded the latest version of Firefox, the 1.0 release candidate.

"Obviously, there was a big spike in interest back in July when there were concerns with Internet Explorer security," Mozilla spokesman Bart Decrem said. "You worry that such things are just a blip, but that momentum has seemed to continue for us."

Mainstream users have not shown the same gung-ho enthusiasm for the non-Microsoft browser but have increasingly adopted Firefox, according to Web analytics firm WebSideStory. The percentage of visitors to e-commerce and corporate sites that used Firefox or another Mozilla browser grew to 5.2 percent in September, from 3.5 percent in June 2004. Meanwhile, Microsoft's share of the users shrank from 95.5 percent in June to 93.7 percent in September, according to the company.

Launched by Netscape Communications in 1998, the Mozilla Foundation has not done well in its head-to-head battle with Microsoft until recently. In 2000, Netscape introduced a browser based on the group's open-source development efforts, but that release tanked. Code bloat cost the Mozilla Foundation support for its browser until it focused on producing a smaller and faster application, dubbed Phoenix, then Firebird and finally Firefox to avoid naming issues.

Mozilla's software has benefited from several major security issues that have plagued Microsoft's Internet Explorer. In June, security researchers found that aggressive advertisers were using a flaw in Internet Explorer to surreptitiously install adware on victim's PCs. This week, another graphics flaw could also cause trouble for Internet Explorer users.

Another factor in the open-source group's favor is that its software has some additional features, such as pop-up blocking, that Microsoft only recently added to its browser.

Firefox isn't yet a focus for Martin Taylor, the general manager of Microsoft's platform strategy, who is in charge of Microsoft's response to Linux and open-source software. But he suspects it will come under discussion in coming months.

"Firefox is creeping up, getting more attention," Taylor said in an interview on Wednesday.

CNET News.com's Paul Festa and Stephen Shankland contributed to this report.

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.01 % = significant gains?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Where'd you get that number?  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
I believe he read it on ZDNet  bidemytime | 09/15/04
Pulled it out of my backside, just like everyone else.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Thanks for the honesty  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Hey, I'll fess up...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Poor word choice  tic swayback | 09/15/04
They "prefer" to not bother with it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
I'd use the word "ignorant" rather than "prefer"  tic swayback | 09/15/04
I guess, that's why  michael-t | 09/15/04
Actually, I was doing my open source supporter imitation.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Ya never know..  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
Is that another of your childish threats?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
I said that purely hypothetically..  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
Buwahahaha  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Is this another one of those things that emerge from the behind?  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
Y'know, I can see why you'd be banned.  Linux_Developer | 09/15/04
PLease explain to me why then, linux "developer"  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
Here are a few for starters...  Linux_Developer | 09/15/04
Here are a few more for you, SS.  Linux_Developer | 09/16/04
Or, more likely,  AmusedAtItAll | 09/15/04
Your ignorance is amazing!  FreeBSD | 09/15/04
No, your coice is not mine. That doesn't make you ignorant.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
IE doesn't suck, just lacks  voska | 09/15/04
And..  FreeBSD | 09/15/04
Never said they were intelligent. LOL(NT)  voska | 09/15/04
RE:.01 % = significant gains?  Msche2000 | 09/15/04
Come again?  Linux_Developer | 09/15/04
Pulling numbers out of your ass?  d_jedi | 09/15/04
But Sadly ...  coffeenite | 09/15/04
That is because..  FreeBSD | 09/15/04
BZZZZZT wrong!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Link please?  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/15/04
I have an idea  php_developer | 09/15/04
Irrelevant  David Hamilton | 09/16/04
Irrelevant  David Hamilton | 09/16/04
WHAT?!!  Eggs Ackley_z | 09/16/04
OK (includes correction)  David Hamilton | 09/16/04
Best kept secret on the Net  David Hamilton | 09/16/04
Still like Mozilla better then Firefox.  computer_man | 09/15/04
Funny I found the opposite  voska | 09/15/04
The site renders fine in FireFox  coffeenite | 09/16/04
Microsoft's response will be?  Nigel Johnstone | 09/15/04
Their responce, a good chukle and back to work.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
I guess that's why IE sucks so bad nowadays  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
Yup, 95% of the population has it wrong..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Hey, most of the country thinks arabs bombed the world trade center..  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
And the little green men are coming for you too.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
C'mon Ax -- you know your gubmint better than that  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
Don't try to argue with him, Ax.  Linux_Developer | 09/15/04
Please, Jeff . . .  CobraA1 | 09/15/04
They very well could be wrong  voska | 09/15/04
how many of those 95%...  ryusen | 09/15/04
Are you saying..  zazu56@... | 09/17/04
IE has not been upgraded in 3 years, such that it is the chokepoint.  B.O.F.H. | 09/15/04
I guess that's why IE sucks so bad nowadays  CodeBubba | 09/16/04
Please keep using IE  debbieL_z | 09/16/04
Obviously . . .  xero11 | 09/15/04
More obvious, bells and whistles don't matter.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Clearly that's their reasoning  tic swayback | 09/15/04
No one's against bells and whistles  voska | 09/15/04
Personally, I'd rather it all be bolted..  d_jedi | 09/15/04
a better way,  ryusen | 09/15/04
thing about bells and whistles...  ryusen | 09/15/04
Obviously...  CodeBubba | 09/16/04
Guess that's why they suddenly started working on it again  voska | 09/15/04
The Opera incident says otherwise  Nigel Johnstone | 09/15/04
Truth be told  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Not even close...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
The problem with those sites...  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
True.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
How do you know?  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
Would you like me to tell you why your wrong?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Please do, esp. since you already admitted that a lot could be spoofed..  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
Just for you Jeff...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/15/04
Butting in here  AbsolutelyNot | 09/15/04
Hate to contradict you, but...  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Oh come on Axey!  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
About these sites you're finding...  IT_User | 09/15/04
My guess it it's at least 10%  voska | 09/15/04
actually  boxmonkey | 09/15/04
stats  moondookie@... | 09/15/04
STATS  moondookie@... | 09/15/04
This will change when...  BitTwiddler | 09/16/04
It is mostly due  michael-t | 09/15/04
Where's Mike Cox  shallow_diver | 09/15/04
I think there was a recent ZDNet article...  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Fans?  rapson | 09/15/04
What would really be interesting..  Jeff Spicoli | 09/15/04
You're absolutely correct  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Fans matter  tic swayback | 09/15/04
Very true.  Linux_Developer | 09/15/04
Interesting converstation I had  voska | 09/15/04
63% vs. 1%  Linux_Developer | 09/15/04
a point of contention:  ryusen | 09/15/04
I'd say you're correct.  AmusedAtItAll | 09/15/04
But MS is not giving up the game.  Linux_Developer | 09/15/04
That's an interesting question.  Linux_Developer | 09/15/04
I'm an ordinary home user  ladyjet@... | 09/18/04
Most of these gains are on older Windows OS's  zmud | 09/15/04
New vulnerabilities found...  ryusen | 09/15/04
Ugh...  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
That's the excuse with a lot of open source  rock06r | 09/16/04
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Give me the bad features of IE and I'll use Firefox  boomslang_z | 09/19/04
And, please, gentlemen ...  dalecosp | 09/19/04
I am a fan, Of Firefox that is  Unicornrider | 09/15/04
I am a fan, Of Firefox that is  MVNTech | 09/16/04
Tabbed browsing *IS* cool ...  dalecosp | 09/19/04
Tabbed Browsing: Fire(bird/fox) v. Opera  pao_z | 09/21/04
Tabbed Browsing: Fire(bird/fox) v. Opera  pao_z | 09/21/04
Well well  systems@... | 09/15/04
Switch to Firefox  mcrader | 09/15/04
IE W3C non-compliant features  hkb25 | 09/16/04
Marquee and transitions  CobraA1 | 09/16/04
Firefox, Netscape 6.3/7.2 , or Thunderbird  BuckNecked | 09/27/04
Notorious CSS issues as well....  dalecosp | 09/19/04
BILL GATES IS MAD!  anthonycea | 09/15/04
Interesting choice of words.  AmusedAtItAll | 09/15/04
It's nice but sucks on message boards  Saxonborg | 09/15/04
That might be a site issue  Darkintent | 09/15/04
Mozilla/firefoz  daveswoodworld | 09/15/04
Why Not  Armorbeast | 09/15/04
PS  Armorbeast | 09/15/04
Firefox vs. IE  Jeffhs | 09/15/04
This is an understatement...  BitTwiddler | 09/16/04
Customer control tactics by Microslop  jmatt4218 | 09/15/04
Disappointed  moroboy@... | 09/15/04
Loading  tic swayback | 09/15/04
Yup  Jeff Spicoli | 09/16/04
Deepnet Explorer is the best browser  zookeeperz@... | 09/15/04
Netscape 7.2  Jeff_Alterman | 09/15/04
Mozilla user  Railpost | 09/15/04
Firefox extensions and reloading...  Linux User 147560 | 09/15/04
The problem is...  Michael Kelly | 09/15/04
Guess that's why I wait  Linux User 147560 | 09/16/04
Roger that LU!  tbbrickster_z | 09/16/04
For clarity...  Linux User 147560 | 09/16/04
Netscape 7.2  gaelicfog@... | 09/15/04
Netscape and the world  templewitch04 | 10/05/04
Firefox  mrgnrt | 09/15/04
Mosaic rulez, anything else and your shilling  FilledOut | 09/16/04
Firefox/IE  ntcormier@... | 09/16/04
Couldn't have said it any better  SpywareFighter | 09/16/04
It doesn't work  macleanj@... | 09/16/04
Using FF 0.9.3 Hotsheet.com OK  tbbrickster_z | 09/16/04
Also disappointed  Dauplat | 09/16/04
Get another virus scanner  voska | 09/16/04
You are most likely... well your PC  Linux User 147560 | 09/16/04
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FF vs IE  coffeegurrl | 09/16/04
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my website stats  hipparchus2000 | 09/16/04
Firefox Numbers Misleading  chuck5406@... | 09/18/04
RE: Leave IE alone.  barrencross@... | 09/21/04
Dedicated Firefox User  joecool250 | 09/21/04
Netscape Browser  cdeichar | 09/24/04
IE vs FF  Jocko_z | 09/30/04
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