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By John Borland
Posted on ZDNet News: Mar 1, 2005 10:24:00 PM

Backed by powerful technology groups and a handful of artists, file-swapping software companies on Tuesday asked the U.S. Supreme Court to reject proposals from the entertainment industry that could put them out of business.

Record labels and Hollywood studios, seeking to overturn lower court rulings shielding file-swapping companies, have asked the court to rule that businesses distributing products "predominately" devoted to copyright infringement should be held legally responsible for that illegal activity.

That prospect has drawn staunch opposition across the technology sector. Intel, trade associations representing consumer electronics and software companies, and consumer groups joined the file-swapping companies on Tuesday, asking the court to avoid creating a new legal test they said might stifle technological innovation.

"The ability to create and innovate is a dynamic process and...not every society has achieved the mechanisms and balance and capability to achieve what we've done," said Ed Black, president of the Computer & Communications Industry Association. "It is that delicate balance that content owners are threatening to throw off."

The Supreme Court case is one of the most closely watched issues across the technology and entertainment realms this year, with both sides saying that an unfavorable outcome could be devastating to their respective industries.

At the heart of the case is the 20-year-old Supreme Court ruling that made Sony's Betamax videocassette recorder legal to distribute without liability, despite its use by consumers to record and save copyright movies and TV shows. In that ruling, the court said that companies were allowed to distribute products that had "substantial commercial noninfringing uses."

That ruling has helped protect the introduction of many different products, from computers that can burn CDs to MP3 players like Apple Computer's iPod.

Record labels and Hollywood studios have said they are not trying to overturn that ruling and have no interest in making the iPod or other legitimate consumer products illegal.

However, they say that unlike Sony or Apple, Grokster and Morpheus parent StreamCast Networks have actively built their file-swapping software businesses by encouraging copyright infringement. In their appeal to the Supreme Court in January, the entertainment companies said that companies that have business models predominately supported by infringement should be held liable for their users' actions.

"The thing that distinguishes the Grokster-type systems is that they have very little use for any purpose that is lawful," Ted Olsen, the former U.S. solicitor general who is supporting the entertainment companies, said on a conference call Tuesday in response to the file-swapping companies' filings.

In their filings, StreamCast and Grokster said that they had no control over their customers' individual file trades, and so could not be held liable, based on the Betamax decision. Any decision that affected their software would be felt across the industry, they said.

"This is no different from Microsoft or any other software vendor which distributes software which is capable of lawful use, but is also capable of unlawful use," said Fred von Lohmann, an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which is representing StreamCast.

Both sides have gathered sometimes unlikely allies to support them in their legal bids, hoping to persuade the Supreme Court that they have widespread, mainstream support.

The record labels and movie studios were joined in January by the U.S. Solicitor General's office, 40 state attorneys general, and the Christian Coalition, as well as numerous musicians and songwriters.

Along with the technology and consumer electronics groups, file-swapping companies were joined by the American Conservative Union, the National Taxpayers Union, and a long list of legal professors and computer scientists. One brief included 20 musicians ranging from Public Enemy front man Chuck D to newcomer Jason Mraz, who said that file-swapping had actually helped--or at least had not hurt--their careers.

The Supreme Court will hear the case March 29. A decision is expected by midsummer.

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The music industry have a bigger problem
I think the music industry have not yet grasped a much bigger problem. The problem they have is that a generation has grown up over the past 5 years which is now used to accessing huge quantities of m... (Read the rest)
Posted by: yossarianuk Posted on: 03/04/05 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Encouraging copyright infringement?  emcee_z | 03/01/05
In other words, we can't make any more money off stolen IP.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
And yet most all of this infringement is done on Microsoft Windows machines  Jeff Spicoli | 03/01/05
Their users do the stealing, they don't.  CobraA1 | 03/01/05
So tell me then why the hardware people want it so bad?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
They don't want to lose control of their own business  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Speaking of stolen IP  tic swayback | 03/02/05
I think you miss the point  voska | 03/02/05
Not at all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
I see these laws killing it though(nt)  voska | 03/02/05
That's the point of this case  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Uh huh, unless it's THEIR IP, then it's all different.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
it's kind of a touchy issue in my eyes  Monkey_MCSE | 03/01/05
correction...  Monkey_MCSE | 03/01/05
DVD XCopy was shut down...  ShadeTree | 03/01/05
So..  Jeff Spicoli | 03/01/05
Actually, I didn't take a stand ...  ShadeTree | 03/01/05
Aha  Jeff Spicoli | 03/01/05
Once again you jump to the wrong conclusions  ShadeTree | 03/01/05
Jeff some stuff in life is illegal to own  osreinstall | 03/02/05
Not really the same reason  emcee_z | 03/01/05
What exactly do you think the DMCA is?  ShadeTree | 03/02/05
Actually it's not what the name implies  voska | 03/02/05
321 Studios weren't shut down  voska | 03/02/05
They were forced to remove ...  ShadeTree | 03/02/05
Final judgement was never made  voska | 03/02/05
I don't disagree there, I disagree with thier two faced attitudes.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
When you take the full spectrum of this serious issue into account Bit..  Jeff Spicoli | 03/01/05
You make my point for me nicely.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
One side is a lot bigger than the other  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Dead wrong tic..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
Great or not, it's a drop in the bucket  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Numbers  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Looks like the AX is dead wrong  Nullifidian | 03/02/05
The problem with the whole thing...  htotten | 03/01/05
More complicated than that...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/01/05
C'mon Ax. You now better than that  htotten | 03/02/05
Not even close.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
You are wrong here No Ax  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Re: More complicated than that...  none none | 03/02/05
Substantial  tic swayback | 03/02/05
no ax - you support ms activation - need we say more  JasonL31 | 03/02/05
No, I do not!!! Please learn to read.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
The problem is  Mack DaNife | 03/02/05
Clearly you didn't grasp the issue.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
What is the point of this case?  tic swayback | 03/02/05
The point is...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
So you support banning the iPod, the VCR?  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Re: Clearly you didn't grasp the issue.  Mack DaNife | 03/02/05
The music industry have a bigger problem  yossarianuk | 03/04/05
Ax, your vision is like the blind man holding the elephant's tail. (NT)  Update victim | 03/02/05
It is their IP  tic swayback | 03/02/05
20? Big friggin deal.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
Size matters?  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Not really. No one is stopping the 20.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
Freedom is the issue here  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Ban all broadband connections, I say  toomuchgreeatea@... | 03/01/05
Ban dial-up too! Sneakernet, here we come baby! Where the floppy?..  Jeff Spicoli | 03/01/05
Kinda funny  emcee_z | 03/01/05
Ban all P2P software  osreinstall | 03/02/05
What r u smokin?  htotten | 03/02/05
NNTP 119  Michael Kelly | 03/02/05
This is exactly the kind of thinking that scares me  Mack DaNife | 03/02/05
Your comment is NFG  DarbyOhara | 03/02/05
Put a quarter in and watch the show  osreinstall | 03/02/05
Too much bandwidth?  Root User | 03/02/05
We all make judgements  osreinstall | 03/02/05
You're welcome to judge...  Root User | 03/02/05
They are quite fair  osreinstall | 03/02/05
why would anyone install p2p  JasonL31 | 03/02/05
Good reasons why  Skyhawk_z | 03/02/05
You do realize you're using a p2p network to read this...  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Let hold ALL software companies liable  Roger Ramjet | 03/02/05
Academics have chimed in as well  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Academics? You mean the tax leaches?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/02/05
Are they citizens?  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Yup right up there with Record Co CEOs  voska | 03/02/05
Record CEO's are vital to our economy  tic swayback | 03/02/05
You know 10 years from now  voska | 03/02/05
Exactly  tic swayback | 03/02/05
Typical ad homenim attack against academics...  Root User | 03/02/05
Try this one for example  Update victim | 03/02/05
FSF Weighs In  tic swayback | 03/03/05
Major best selling musicians weigh in  tic swayback | 03/03/05

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