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By John Borland
Posted on ZDNet News: Mar 28, 2005 12:00:00 PM

Ken Fuhrman's Colorado-based start-up company is a television junkie's dream, making powerful home media servers to hold digitized versions of television shows, movies and music.

But Fuhrman is worried. On Tuesday morning, the Supreme Court will hear arguments on whether file-swapping software companies Grokster and StreamCast Networks should be held responsible for the widespread copyright infringement on their networks, and he's afraid his company, Interact-TV, could be affected too.

Like many other technology entrepreneurs, he owes his business to a 20-year-old court ruling that said the Sony Betamax VCR was legal to sell, even though it could make copies of television shows. Tuesday's file-swapping case is the first time in 20 years that the Supreme Court has revisited that landmark ruling in a substantial way.

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What's new:
On Tuesday, the Supreme Court will hear arguments on whether file-swapping software companies Grokster and StreamCast should be held responsible for the copyright infringement on their networks.

Bottom line:
Tech companies are worried, while Hollywood is pushing for revisions on how copyright law affects products. All court watchers agree that the outcome could set new ground rules for two of the most dynamic industries in the United States.

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If not for Betamax, "we wouldn't have done the products we're doing now," Fuhrman said. "Trying to repeal or modify those rules would strangle innovation on the digital media front."

Furman isn't alone in his anxiety. From the smallest start-up to the executive offices of Intel, the technology world sees Tuesday's Supreme Court review of file swapping as potentially one of the most critical moments in the industry's history. At stake is nothing less than the future of innovation, executives say.

The record companies and Hollywood studios that have brought the case don't exactly disagree--but they say it's artists' ability to earn a living by their work, and therefore artistic innovation itself, that's at stake. Uncontrolled file swapping has led to piracy of music and movies on an unprecedented scale, and must be controlled if copyright-based industries are to survive, they say.

Virtually all court watchers agree that the outcome could set new ground rules for two of the most dynamic industries in the United States.

"This is the most important copyright case to come in front of the Supreme Court, from the perspective of its effect on the economy, since the Sony (VCR) case," said Annette Hurst, a San Francisco copyright attorney with Howard Rice Nemerovski Canady Falk & Rabkin.

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The case itself focuses on just two file-swapping companies, Grokster and StreamCast. Hollywood studios and record labels say they, like other Napster successors, have built their business by encouraging millions of people to use their software to trade files illegally online.

Unlike Napster, each company distributes software that lets computer users search for and download files from one another's hard drives without any data going through a central company-controlled point first. The studios and labels say that the peer-to-peer networks created by Grokster's and StreamCast's software could survive and thrive even if the companies were shut down.

In April 2003, this led a Los Angeles federal court judge to say that unlike Napster, Grokster and StreamCast were not legally liable for piracy performed using their software.

"Grokster and StreamCast are not significantly different from companies that sell home video recorders or copy machines, both of which can be and are used to infringe copyrights," Judge Stephen Wilson wrote in that decision. A 9th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed in a ruling last August, and the Supreme Court agreed to hear the entertainment companies' appeal this year.

"The guy who lives across the street from me was a professional songwriter, but he's selling insurance now...It's that bad."
--Rick Carnes, songwriter

The appeal has brought dozens of organizations out of the woodwork, arguing all sides of the case. The U.S. Solicitor General's office is supporting the entertainment companies, as are groups ranging from the Christian Coalition to the National Baseball League.

The file-swapping companies are backed by big consumer electronics companies, venture capitalists and the American Civil Liberties Union, while consumer groups argue that protecting peer-to-peer networks is a free speech issue.

Who's hurt, and does it matter?
A host of studies have come out during the past year trying to gauge the real effect of file-swapping networks, where millions of copyrighted songs, movies and games are traded freely every month. Some say they hurt the music business; some say there is little if any measurable impact.

Rick Carnes, a Nashville, Tenn.-based songwriter who has penned tunes for Garth Brooks and others, says he doesn't need the studies to see that peer-to-peer swapping has been a problem. The professional songwriting business has been devastated in the last few years, as income from record sales has dropped substantially, he says. Music publishers who once kept songwriters on staff have consolidated and laid off staff, and individual writers have seen their income plummet.

"The guy who lives across the street from me was a professional songwriter, but he's selling insurance now," Carnes said. "It's that bad."

These points, along with the record industry's contention that the music market in the United States has lost more than 12 percent of its value since 1999, aren't academic. The Supreme Court has historically been loath to protect industries solely against the consequences of technology change, but it has tried to strike a balance between encouraging technological advance and protecting copyright holders.

Since the Sony Betamax decision in 1984, the court has done that by saying that technologies with "substantial noninfringing use" are legal, even if they are used in some cases for copyright piracy. That's protected the VCR, MP3 players and even personal computers from being taken off shelves.

Record labels and Hollywood studios say they don't want to overturn that test, but they do want to clarify it. Any company whose products are "predominately" used for copyright infringement--as they say the Grokster and Morpheus file-trading software is--should be held liable for that activity, they say.

That's a terrifying idea to much of the technology industry. Forcing manufacturers to evaluate how their products would be used before release, under threat of legal liability, would prevent much technological progress from happening at all, they say.


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"Such predications are impossible in the real world, especially since the uses to which products are put routinely change over time," semiconductor giant Intel wrote in a brief filed with the court. "Innovators such as Intel would grow timid (and) would have no choice but to withhold from the market socially and economically useful products."

The two sides will face each other in the Supreme Court halls on Tuesday morning, for a brief oral-argument period. Court watchers will listen carefully to the tone and content of the justices' questioning, but a final decision isn't expected until mid-June.

Even that isn't likely to settle the legal issues, however. The court has only the power to rule on what Congress has passed, and the losing side is likely to return to Capital Hill to seek legislation. In the end, the final lines of the Supreme Court's Betamax decision in 1984 may predict the future of file swapping two decades later.

"It may well be that Congress will take a fresh look at this technology, just as it so often has examined other innovations in the past," the court wrote then. "But it is not our job to apply laws that have not yet been written."

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Re: Ahem
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News Flash: The Government isn't the issue here, the illegal sharing of copyrighted material is.... (Read the rest)
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What B.S. !  realitycheck101 | 03/28/05
AH SHADDAP  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Troll alert  Nullifidian | 03/28/05
Just Be Glad Those FBI Warning Labels Are Working..  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Am I Wrong To Download American Idol?  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Too bad Americans don't get it  WhoDaMan | 03/28/05
Please Deposit 25 Cents For The Next Comment  itanalyst | 03/28/05
So "the people" is only you?  NonZealot | 03/28/05
Copyright and Patent  WhoDaMan | 03/28/05
What hog wash.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Your rights end where mine begin  tic swayback | 03/28/05
If you want to fine...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
You can do whatever you want with your content  tic swayback | 03/28/05
You Just Shot Yourself In The Foot Axy!!!  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Yes, but. . .  openMind | 03/28/05
re: Yes, but. . .  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Not At A Public Library...  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Best interest of the people?  openMind | 03/28/05
I'm not so sure  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Profits and more  openMind | 03/28/05
Who gets paid  tic swayback | 03/28/05
You're being a tad self-contradictory. Not to mention sensationalist.  Sotek | 03/28/05
It'll be "too bad" for everyone when they stop producing content.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Bad Art  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Bad? Seems all the downloading crooks think it's good.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
But not good enough to pay for  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Hehe  NonZealot | 03/28/05
There's no accounting for taste  tic swayback | 03/28/05
But...  rapson | 03/28/05
I have to wonder why you care?  NonZealot | 03/28/05
An interesting contradiction  tic swayback | 03/28/05
re: interesting contradiction  NonZealot | 03/28/05
NonZealot--  tic swayback | 03/28/05
re: re: interesting contradiction  tic swayback | 03/28/05
re: NonZealot  NonZealot | 03/28/05
re: re: re: interesting contradiction  NonZealot | 03/28/05
re: re: NonZealot  tic swayback | 03/28/05
re: re: re: re: interesting contradiction  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Tic...  rapson | 03/28/05
Carl  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Tic again...  rapson | 03/28/05
I infringe copyright because I have no alternatives...  Sotek | 03/28/05
I know what you mean  NonZealot | 03/28/05
I wish they would..  Patrick Jones | 03/28/05
Better yet  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Hmmm, the crooks disagree with you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
But they don't like it enough to pay for it  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Its a tired argument...  NonZealot | 03/28/05
I agree in some ways  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Not really...  Patrick Jones | 03/29/05
Junk, yes, stop producing no  openMind | 03/28/05
Ummm if you read at the beginning of the show...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
I'm gonna need to check with my lawyer on that..  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Yes of course you are.  maxo_z | 03/28/05
Sharing is real and OK.  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
One nit-pick  Patrick Jones | 03/28/05
Now I have a choice!  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Yes but...  maxo_z | 03/28/05
However...  Patrick Jones | 03/29/05
watch programs without the proper commercials  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
I'm sure...  maxo_z | 03/28/05
Shouldn't do it  bystander_z | 03/28/05
LOL ZDNet Removes Entire Posting And Responses  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Help, Help! I'm being repressed!  Martin Marvinski | 03/28/05
BLOODY PEASANT!!!!  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Message has been deleted.  Gmail has arrived | 03/28/05
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Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Message has been deleted.  tic swayback | 03/28/05
NAZINAZINAZINAZI IM A ZDNET NAZI  itanalyst | 03/28/05
With any luck they will ban you from ever posting again.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
The Pot Calling The Kettle Black..  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
ROLF! (NT)  Nullifidian | 03/28/05
OH NO!!! BAN ME???  itanalyst | 03/28/05
itanalyst, are you the spammer?  tic swayback | 03/28/05
No Tic, I'm Not The Spammer  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Then why are you upset at ZDNet removing advertising spam?  tic swayback | 03/28/05
So you have an account...  Martin Marvinski | 03/28/05
Re: ItANALyst  Scrat | 03/30/05
Come on IT...  maxo_z | 03/28/05
Hmmm, will these companies give as well as take?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Re: Hmmm, will these companies give as well as take?  none none | 03/28/05
Ok, tell me how much Bit Torrent paid this year.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
(nt)"BitTorrent" is not a person  toadlife | 03/28/05
Bram Cohen says you are dead wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Bram Cohen  toadlife | 03/29/05
some people can't distinguish between a protocol and it's creator.  B.O.F.H. | 03/28/05
No, you don't understand it correctly  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Really? How much does Bit Torrent pay?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
BitTorrent is software  rhavyn | 03/28/05
I agree  NonZealot | 03/28/05
What? You don't think the software companies are involved?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
That's irrelevant and a straw man  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Straw man enough to land them in court?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Wow, even more strawmen! Good job!  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Nice try...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
If your argument made some sense, I'd gladly respond  tic swayback | 03/28/05
The world does not care  bystander_z | 03/28/05
Kiss my arrogant donkey.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Please take a remedial computer class!  B.O.F.H. | 03/28/05
Turn off your TV No_Ax!!!  gordon@... | 03/28/05
You must be completely clueless.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
That's not your payment  rhavyn | 03/28/05
I think downloading broadcast tv is ok.  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Of course it is.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
most tv downloads don't have commercials..  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Yes, it does steal their revenue stream...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
I must be a thief then  tic swayback | 03/28/05
What has that to do with P2P tic?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
What if you skip the commercials?  tic swayback | 03/28/05
What tacit agreement  rhavyn | 03/28/05
No_Ax..You Ever Taped A Movie Or TV Show? Recorded An Album On Cassette?  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Hmmm, do you ever think before posting?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Obviously Your Cognitive Skills Aren't Working When You Post  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Don't go away mad, just go away.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
No_Ax Bails = You Got PWNED.  itanalyst | 03/28/05
PWNED? Is that like child speak for a real word?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Look Who's Telling Whom To Grow Up  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Even a single copy violates Inetllectual Property Laws.  B.O.F.H. | 03/28/05
Sorry your wrong...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
BETAMAX CASE U.S. Legal Decision  B.O.F.H. | 03/28/05
I Got Rid Of My TV..  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Well Ax, most of it is free.  maxo_z | 03/28/05
If IT Companies are responsible - where will it stop?  gpcourtney | 03/28/05
I Got Paid A Visit By Al Michaels and John Madden The Other Day  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Music today...  MIS Master | 03/28/05
or...www.mp3searh.ru or www.allofmp3.com  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
good sites  MIS Master | 03/28/05
1st I used Pay Pal then Secure Visa..  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Sorry to say works best with IE at allofmp3.com  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
You are mistaken. Firefox fine.  maxo_z | 03/28/05
sweet  MIS Master | 03/28/05
AllOfMp3, Xrost, funny legality.  maxo_z | 03/28/05
But...  rapson | 03/28/05
I still download  MIS Master | 03/28/05
My Friend Downloaded Over 1,000 Albums Using The Napster Hack Last Week  itanalyst | 03/28/05
what bit rate are those files??  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
128 to 192 Bit........  itanalyst | 03/28/05
pay radio is going to face the same problem..  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Has What Been Reported?  itanalyst | 03/28/05
good, the hole should be closed..  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
CD Quality  toadlife | 03/28/05
I think downloading network tv is ok.  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
The Economist sides with the Tech Companies  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Not worth paying for but worth pirating???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
it works for me..  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
A crook always has an excuse.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
internet = library of congress  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Yep, And YOU CANT STOP US.....  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Just pick up an issue Maximum PC  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Said the FOOLS running Torrent servers.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Your Reading Comprehension Is On A Preschool Level Isn't It?  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Said the the FOOLS that have been caught.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
100% irony free  tic swayback | 03/28/05
These things are not free  NonZealot | 03/28/05
But it's free to me  tic swayback | 03/28/05
To bad it's not 100% bull free.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
If Bitty Had His Way, You'd Have To Pay For Everything  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Gee, good to see you are catching on.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
But what is that value?  tic swayback | 03/28/05
I would refuse the cup  NonZealot | 03/28/05
The lost sale argument is th real STRAWMAN.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Yes, the RIAA has created that particular strawman  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Actually  maxo_z | 03/28/05
Sounds like a great idea!  NonZealot | 03/28/05
Come on--- think.  maxo_z | 03/28/05
Music was meant to be free  Protector | 03/28/05
Then make some and give it away.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
ok  Protector | 03/28/05
Why Make Some, Just Get It The Old Fashioned Way....  itanalyst | 03/28/05
Every crook in prison thinks just like you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
It goes both ways  tic swayback | 03/28/05
No, you aren't allowed to..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
What was the final court decision in that case?  tic swayback | 03/28/05
Nope tic, your wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
Only thing I used 321 for was legal.  maxo_z | 03/28/05
Perhaps if they had bothered with a license...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
You only need a codec to play it!  B.O.F.H. | 03/29/05
Again, your ignorance is showing  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/29/05
;o)  Protector | 03/28/05
What About The Artists That Rely On File Sharing And Downloading?  itanalyst | 03/28/05
they can go back to the old way or else!!  cybershoplifter | 03/28/05
Anyone can build a web site.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/28/05
They can and will contine to use p2p.  maxo_z | 03/28/05
Sorry websites are going to be illegal  tic swayback | 03/28/05
I heard the RIAA has adopted an official theme song  toadlife | 03/28/05
Ahem  r7di697 | 03/29/05
Re: Ahem  Scrat | 03/30/05

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