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By Ina Fried
Posted on ZDNet News: Apr 26, 2005 11:00:00 AM

SEATTLE--In a move that could rankle privacy advocates, Microsoft said Monday that it is adding the PC equivalent of a flight data recorder to the next version of Windows, in an effort to better understand and prevent computer crashes.

The tool will build on the existing Watson error-reporting tool in Windows but will provide Microsoft with much deeper information, including what programs were running at the time of the error and even the contents of documents that were being created. Businesses will also choose whether they want their own technology managers to receive such data when an employee's machine crashes.

"Think of it as a flight data recorder, so that any time there's a problem, that 'black box' is there helping us work together and diagnose what's going on," Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates said during a speech at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference here.

For consumers, the choice of whether to send the data, and how much information to share, will be up to the individual. Though the details are being finalized, Windows lead product manager Greg Sullivan said users will be prompted with a message indicating the information to be sent and giving them an option to alter it, such as removing the contents of the e-mail they were writing when the machine crashed. Also, such reporting will also be anonymous.

"Our stance on this is that the user is in control," Sullivan said. "In the consumer environment, you will be presented with a dialog that clearly gives you the choice whether to share the information and then also provides exactly what the detail is so you can parse character by character what's being sent."

With businesses, however, IT managers typically set the policy. If they wanted total information, they could configure systems so that they'd know not only that a user was running Internet Explorer, for example, but also that he or she was watching a video from ESPN.com. Or, they might find out not only that a worker was running Instant Messenger but also that he or she was talking to a co-worker about getting a new job.

And consumers could have a tough time knowing just what information they were sending. Though they'll be able to see the contents of a document, they may not recognize the significance of the technical data--such as register settings--that's being sent.

Industry analyst Richard Doherty said he doubted Microsoft got enough feedback on how users might feel about such a feature. Even airplane pilots, Doherty said, have been able to keep from having their routine in-flight dialogue preserved. Microsoft's version of the black box, Doherty said "is begging for more real-world testing."

But Sullivan pointed out that businesses can already install third-party software to monitor workers' computer usage and some do.

He also said that in the present incarnation of Windows, companies have fairly fine control over what crash data they receive and what information gets sent on to Microsoft. With the new black box feature, he said, companies will simply have "more detailed management ability of the reporting infrastructure."

With the information it does get, Microsoft could, in theory, identify a problem the first time it appears and push down a patch so that no other person encounters the error. Microsoft also shares some data with other Windows developers to help them improve their products. However, Sullivan acknowledged that the day when an error only crops up one time and is fixed is still a long way off.

"Will we ever get to once? No," Sullivan said. "That will remain the goal."

Microsoft also plans to step up the amount of information Windows users get when they send an error report to the company. With Windows XP, the software leviathan has begun sending information back to consumers, though the data tends to be fairly generic. Microsoft is trying to get to a point where it can send back specific details on the problem and how to fix it.

"We're going to take steps toward that," Sullivan said. "It remains to see exactly how far down that path we get."

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Re: Ya Think?  BXLE | 04/26/05
Gross! Mac prejudiced? At least, switch to Linux!  swede_z | 04/26/05
Aren't those Macintosh computers looking better all the time?  gtdworak | 04/26/05
Message has been deleted.  Jeff Spicoli | 04/26/05
Mac Apps crash a lot...  Outside T. Box | 04/26/05
Mac apps run like magic  Jeff Spicoli | 04/26/05
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RE: All computers crash...  nightshade0143 | 04/26/05
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MY G4 DOESN'T CRASH. PERIOD (nt)  theo_durcan | 04/26/05
The "Black Box" notion; and the blither about different computers.  albert@... | 04/26/05
No operating system ?  joesab | 04/26/05
Nope! No operating systems!  albert@... | 04/27/05
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Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows  Loverock Davidson | 04/26/05
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Depending on and trusting are two different issues  Michael Kelly | 04/26/05
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Doing the right thing...NOT!  rmerts@... | 04/26/05
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if you know how  m.cushman@... | 04/26/05
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So, you believe ...  Vily Clay | 04/27/05
Abusing words.  Anton Philidor | 04/27/05
Upgrade for you (a simplified version): ...  Vily Clay | 04/27/05
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You are progressing nicely on the Scientology test  osreinstall | 04/26/05
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Yet another attempt by Microsoft to be big brother  stevens579 | 04/26/05
Some sheep allow themselves to be slaughtered.  Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/26/05
No, Microsoft is using Its power to facilitate Big Brother...  FUzzylogiCK | 04/26/05
Hackers??????????????  danieleoneil@... | 04/27/05
HACKERS????????????  danieleoneil@... | 04/27/05
what's next  rockinghorseman | 04/26/05
this is a good thing what would you expect  mikefurst | 04/26/05
An actual sensible post!  Anton Philidor | 04/26/05
Good Thing?  wlundgren@... | 04/26/05
Black Box  zenjoe | 04/26/05
"Liberating", yep!  PMDubuc | 04/26/05
Bill Gates admits Windows XP crashes enough for a black box, wow!  gaelicfog@... | 04/26/05
Right!  PMDubuc | 04/26/05
linux, here i come!  jonesbl | 04/26/05
Privacy Concerns  rxtxau | 04/26/05
Black Box  jbkraut | 04/26/05
How about a "Reduced Crap" edition  scoobyJ | 04/26/05
I like that!  mad.mutt | 04/27/05
"Reduced Crap"...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
Black Box  broom | 04/26/05
in an effort to better understand and prevent computer crashes  ted-saari@... | 04/26/05
Alice is in your attic!  Winfan | 04/28/05
Spying  chewymtaa | 05/07/05
And just what *else* will it be doing, hmmmm?  sehlat@... | 04/26/05
More Control of pc's  jstanley_z | 04/26/05
FIX the SOFTWARE BEFORE it is released  ted-saari@... | 04/26/05
fine with me  GP1628 | 04/26/05
i dont mind it either  linuxoverwindows | 04/27/05
Dark road ahead  atlascott | 04/26/05
bu- bu- whaaaa?!  linuxoverwindows | 04/27/05
Allow me to explain...  atlascott | 04/27/05
Privacy intrusion  d_peters314@... | 04/26/05
they dont have enough pc's  linuxoverwindows | 04/27/05
Cause of crashes already known  davidr69 | 04/26/05
for sure!  Tim Carpenter | 04/26/05
Short, sweet and...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
Black Box? Yeah right!!  swalters@... | 04/26/05
yawl know what a blackbox is, right?  linuxoverwindows | 04/27/05
Example of a corporation way too powerful!  MacGeek2121 | 04/26/05
Then move along and don't buy it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/26/05
I agree... don't buy Microsoft Corporation..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/26/05
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 04/26/05
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Fine ZDNazis, Delete It, I'll Post Again....  itanalyst | 04/26/05
Message has been M$hill-eted  Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/26/05
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Exactly.  Jack-Booted EULA | 04/26/05
Pardon the...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
Giving Metrics to the Devil?  lbattis@... | 04/26/05
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How stupid does Microsoft think we are?  Evaine | 04/26/05
Do you really have to ask?  B.O.F.H. | 04/26/05
Windows Black Box  Ratzo | 04/26/05
yeah right  pavandpr@... | 04/26/05
Corporations will love it  davidr69 | 04/26/05
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If you don't want to be spied on!  codeman2925 | 04/26/05
Actually, Shredding....  whogoesthere | 04/26/05
Box or boxing  peter_apse@... | 04/26/05
Brilliant!  Bitboy | 04/26/05
They're Just Trying to Divert Attention from Tiger  cadaholic@... | 04/26/05
Black Boxes  David Edge | 04/26/05
Black box good but bad  lonwulf185 | 04/26/05
Can you imagine when this is hacked?  Reverend MacFellow | 04/26/05
Very Stupid - Why not just FIX the OS?!?  tim@... | 04/26/05
Ahhh now we strike a chord  linuxed | 04/26/05
windows beta is now production ... privacy concerns aside  Eullman@... | 04/26/05
Whom do you trust  jpurcell | 04/26/05
I do not trust Microshaft, who does? Sheep!  Network Support | 04/30/05
The Black Box Thing  Tennisyoda@... | 04/26/05
MS to add 'Black Box' to next version of Windows  geokoppmann323 | 04/26/05
Black box news.  sizwe@... | 04/26/05
I'll say  CobraA1 | 04/26/05
Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows  surf5150 | 04/26/05
Make it voluntary like Beta testers  trueguru@... | 04/26/05
Black Box  jharant@... | 04/26/05
Crashes? Write a good OS!  tonyd@... | 04/26/05
I agree but..  sir_cheats_a_lot | 04/28/05
OMG = NOT PLEASED - HEY TORVALD  unclegriff | 04/26/05
Don't Trust M$ Firewall to Block It  tbbrickster_z | 04/26/05
Spyware?  glhadley_z | 04/26/05
Physically Sieze Your PC - What is secure?  EWM&N | 04/26/05
What Privacy  afsgtmax | 04/26/05
Black Box is one more target for HACKERS  spikepen | 04/26/05
$$ Saver for Microsoft = shirking it to the little guy.  Eullman@... | 04/26/05
What a load of CRAP!!!  Omnifunn | 04/26/05
There is an alternative  Macmax77 | 04/26/05
Re: There is an alternative  none none | 04/26/05
The 8 Scariest words...  arayz | 04/26/05
What concerns me...  Queue | 04/26/05
Thanks, But No Thanks...  MadDogDr | 04/26/05
That attitude got me started on Linux 4 years ago..  Xunil_Sierutuf | 04/26/05
in your face spyware!  SandyGears | 04/26/05
A SCAM AND LIE NOTHING MORE  RobertoSalazar | 04/26/05
Black box already exists  kokuryu | 04/26/05
If you really wanted total privacy  codeman2925 | 04/26/05
More Spyware  cardinal33 | 04/26/05
The ole' Black Box ruse  NooYawkMike | 04/26/05
Gates Looks Like An Old Hag Speed Freak  RobertoSalazar | 04/26/05
predator!  elvee | 04/26/05
Microsoft remain Microsoft...  pinpintalk@... | 04/26/05
More spying, less privacy  tomhood@... | 04/26/05
MS 'Black Box' ...  mwagner@... | 04/26/05
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Black Box of MS  dslexperts | 04/26/05
Window Washer  johns_z | 04/26/05
Has it learned to handle index.dat yet?  Anton Philidor | 04/26/05
LMFAO...this is how I...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
Easier way  osreinstall | 04/28/05
Bull, Bull and more MS BS or is that their new certification?  Sheeva | 04/26/05
Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows  beaufordj | 04/26/05
I hope you don't have XP...  malabapa | 04/26/05
That's so easy ...  michael-t | 04/26/05
Who will use this "black box"?  yleclerc | 04/26/05
A Modest Counter Proposal  capecodcipher | 04/26/05
Microsoft adding black box  theryanteam | 04/26/05
Apparently that 'DTrace' tool from Solaris 10  michael-t | 04/26/05
Guys...chill out...  petros22 | 04/26/05
This Talkback is getting stupid  voska | 04/26/05
Much ado about nothing  malabapa | 04/26/05
Bill Gates and a black box?  robapacl@... | 04/26/05
Can I let them do this?  Dr.C | 04/26/05
Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows  gehill@... | 04/26/05
Black Box and the Non MS whiners  TN-Limey | 04/26/05
Why should WE be responsible for fixing their product?  Michael Kelly | 04/26/05
That's Just Being Pig-headed...!!!  mickm_z | 04/26/05
Giving them full access to my data is NOT meeting them halfway  Michael Kelly | 04/27/05
Whiners  TN-Limey | 04/30/05
just how stupid are you?  Network Support | 05/01/05
Yet another reason to say FU to MS...  tajhq | 04/26/05
Black Boxes  burleighdl@... | 04/26/05
Black Box  461wa127 | 04/26/05
Error Reporting  AJane | 04/26/05
Eveyone loves to complain about bugs, but don't try to fix it!  chucklepard@... | 04/26/05
Black Box  mairit@... | 04/26/05
In the interest of fairness ...  George Mitchell | 04/26/05
Wasting my time  rrascal | 04/26/05
The REAL intentions  toomuchgreeatea@... | 04/26/05
Pre-Release Notice of Longhorn's First Trojan  justchange@... | 04/26/05
Calling all FUDites! This is MS central calling all FUDites!  whisperycat | 04/26/05
Funny...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
Complacency - the downfall of privacy  croloff | 04/26/05
MS IS NUTS!  wolfpack99 | 04/26/05
Microsoft Black Box  moneyops | 04/26/05
Black box  beansbag@... | 04/26/05
10 years waiting  Care_z | 04/26/05
Cost of Doing Business  murph555 | 04/26/05
Something old, something new  l.d.best@... | 04/26/05
Two words!  rschuff@... | 04/26/05
Dumb'em Down & Rob'em Blind  benoddo | 04/26/05
What is the alternative  billeast@... | 04/26/05
Could be a good idea.  jackjack5 | 04/26/05
black box  half@... | 04/26/05
Nose poking  Kong_z | 04/26/05
In an Emergency, Your Windows PC is a Bloatation Device  DaffyDuck | 04/26/05
Microsoft with my data I think not!  linuxed | 04/26/05
Good idea, but ...  j2callie | 04/26/05
More reason to switch to LINUX !!!  netace_z | 04/26/05
so lame  herb5500 | 04/26/05
Mozilla has a reporting tool also  osreinstall | 04/26/05
Black Box or Black Hole!  edhemen@... | 04/26/05
Isn't that what beta testers are for!  clonex2k@... | 04/26/05
Just something else to crash in Windows!!!  badmattman | 04/26/05
Scare me or make feel Safer??  rerando | 04/26/05
Privacy?  cosmicfoole@... | 04/26/05
Black Box is bad idea  jtm5738@... | 04/26/05
Black Box is trap door  Rincon Bikerider | 04/26/05
Black Box BLACK BOX!!!!!!!  larry@... | 04/26/05
Black Box  windy@... | 04/26/05
Black Box  sowotsup | 04/26/05
What's the problem  mickm_z | 04/26/05
I think that it may solidify the Windows Platform  bobbya12@... | 04/26/05
Solidify what?  Bata Srki | 04/27/05
How I keep Windows from crashing...  mryan@... | 04/26/05
If you haven't noticed...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
Microsoft "black box",  jeanloui@... | 04/26/05
Black Box  imbud | 04/26/05
Might not be a bad idea, but...  w2xaq | 04/26/05
It's About Time!  RimaDog@... | 04/26/05
Black Box  shialary@... | 04/26/05
Windows 'black box'  jamelton | 04/26/05
Microsoft "BLACK BOX"  olscheskyk@... | 04/26/05
Feedback is a fundamental requirement  erlewis@... | 04/26/05
"Let us cheer these moves by MS, not condemn them."  blackbelt_jones | 04/27/05
Black box  samm_z | 04/26/05
black box  coldmm803 | 04/26/05
microsoft's black box...  hilda4jc | 04/26/05
These are what causes computer crashes, do I get a bonus for saying these?  HypnoToad | 04/26/05
Bamboozled  wynnec | 04/27/05
black box? gosh...  sourceforge | 04/26/05
Dont be a hater  LS2005 | 04/26/05
Blacvk Box  cjk@... | 04/26/05
It scares the hell out of me!  Tuggerofhearts | 04/26/05
They wouldn't ship XP w/ Raw Sockets either.  cglrcng@... | 04/27/05
black box added to windows  25decman | 04/26/05
Let's see --- First we pay....then  wgardenhire@... | 04/26/05
Can anybody name a product where...  mad.mutt | 04/27/05
XP deserves refinement  calalily54 | 04/26/05
Black Box to improve product support?  jonkopp | 04/27/05
black box  hthimm@... | 04/27/05
dfdsf  kunjikorans | 04/27/05
Microsoft to add 'Blackbox' to windows  Samuelburns | 04/27/05
sorry it posted under wrong thread  danieleoneil@... | 04/27/05
Microsoft And Black Box  dias1213@... | 04/27/05
IF THIS GOES IN WINDOWS I GO TO LINUX - TOTALLY  BanjoPaterson | 04/27/05
Did you say Linux?  blackbelt_jones | 04/27/05
Black Box  gumbadin | 04/27/05
Longhorn may be long gone  ghawkins@... | 04/27/05
Black Box misgivings  eaglebeaner@... | 04/27/05
Microsoft Strikes Again..  Bkiser_z | 04/27/05
Hackers  csmason@... | 04/27/05
BlackBox or KGB what do you think Microsoft is  rhoffa58@... | 04/27/05
Sounds good, but...  papatator | 04/27/05
BlackBox? Do I look like an Idiot?  hankd74 | 04/27/05
Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows  ttocsmij | 04/27/05
M$ Black Box  xmatelot | 04/27/05
M$ Black Box  xmatelot | 04/27/05
What's the big deal?  Winfan | 04/27/05
Never never never going to run this crud  blackbelt_jones | 04/27/05
Let them try it first  Fluke | 04/27/05
Could lead to HIPAA compliance problems  WiredGuy | 04/27/05
Microsoft Should Build a Better Airplane  John_LI_IT_Guy | 04/27/05
If they ever do...  Dr.C | 04/27/05
Thankyou Microspy...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
Microspy to ZDNet: "Float the...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
Scary, scary, scary  jstone@... | 04/27/05
After M's File Protector?!  Brannon Copeland | 04/27/05
Black Box Fears  janedoe666 | 04/27/05
"Built-in spyware"  sehlat@... | 04/27/05
Medical  slempke | 04/27/05
Black Box  benf_z | 04/27/05
Yea Right  volksair | 04/27/05
Great Idea  wynnec | 04/27/05
Blackbox Fears  nagbor | 04/27/05
So what's the big deal?  MSeng | 04/27/05
What, me worry?  code_flogger | 04/27/05
Tell MS to keep the black box in airplanes  JohnMelone@... | 04/27/05
It Scares Me  Bob Hughes | 04/27/05
black boxes??  Hobbits | 04/27/05
Microsoft's "Black Box"  tdconserv | 04/27/05
ENOUGH!!!!  rtyii@... | 04/27/05
ABSOLUTELY! MS is MassiveMonopoly ...  netace_z | 04/27/05
We Seek Only to Improve Quality of Life  Techscan | 04/27/05
Big Brother  jphines79 | 04/27/05
AlphaMicro did this before...  gardoglee | 04/27/05
George Orwell Would Be Proud  poorbiker | 04/27/05
Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows  mickeycee | 04/27/05
black box --- right! --- not even a box.  rem1010 | 04/27/05
Black Box To Windows  cmrr3 | 04/27/05
Top 10 reasons for the 'hackbox'...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
Paranoia or Just More MS Hate  tbsteph@... | 04/27/05
Everone will probably go to Linux now  pebear | 04/27/05
Easy Home solution  ShadowMaster_z | 04/27/05
Black Box  chewymtaa | 04/27/05
black box  juandefuca | 04/27/05
Get a collective grip  bobp@... | 04/27/05
Microsoft is just ...........  Seeker532@... | 04/27/05
Maybe Microsoft should sell a more stable OS  gary@... | 04/27/05
BLACK BOX & GOODBYE  wolfpack99 | 04/27/05
The Black Box  ctbw | 04/27/05
Will it take 3 whole days  Neutrodyne | 04/27/05
Microsoft Black Box  K4thwright | 04/27/05
black box  rcasa | 04/27/05
Much "adieu" about nothing  Pancracio | 04/27/05
M$ agrees to provide Black Box Interpreter...?  EWM&N | 04/27/05
black box  doorman4me | 04/27/05
This would be the beginning of their end.  raymondh@... | 04/27/05
Data protection act  toscal | 04/27/05
black box  deutsch_z | 04/27/05
So What?  ridgeton | 04/27/05
How is this for Micronazi...  MepisLINUXuser | 04/27/05
the Multi-OS man slutes you  jasontheodd | 04/28/05
Against Black Box  rhm1934@... | 04/27/05
1984?  slempke | 04/27/05
black box?  jwick | 04/27/05
Black Box  hipeak327@... | 04/27/05
Black Box  jw122739@... | 04/27/05
Microsoft Debacle  Tennisyoda@... | 04/27/05
Black Box  liverite@... | 04/27/05
black box  bigklb10@... | 04/27/05
Give me a Break  denbid@... | 04/27/05
For the AVERAGE user this is a BIG problem  netace_z | 04/27/05
The real use of data  jasontheodd | 04/27/05
No choice no Foghorn or is it Longthorn  hilljim@... | 04/27/05
Nominal  s_gamgee | 04/28/05
MS Black Box  jobert48@... | 04/27/05
When are we going to own what we pay for?  wagonweel | 04/27/05
Right!!!  tatankabill | 04/27/05
'BLACK' box  Willy the JOAT | 04/27/05
Time to shop around  r.heat@... | 04/27/05
Bill's Black Box  rlink@... | 04/27/05
Can't have it both ways...  jmtull | 04/27/05
...and we all were born yesterday...  sherbear13@... | 04/27/05
Did someone say...  BrockTungsten | 04/27/05
thank you, my point exactly!  jasontheodd | 04/28/05
Black Box Cost  gander@... | 04/27/05
Microsoft's "black box"  AJS_z | 04/27/05
Shut the stable door, the horse has bolted!  RealAusTech | 04/27/05
"Black Box"  benexfed | 04/27/05
So what?  chevere@... | 04/27/05
Blackbox  malcolm_z | 04/27/05
MS Black box  cst1268@... | 04/27/05
It all depends...  bixbyru@... | 04/27/05
Black Box to Windows  dfarrich@... | 04/27/05
Untrustworthy Computing  rdh91007 | 04/27/05
1984  snowbeard | 04/27/05
Who cares?  canovac | 04/27/05
privacy  steven.eynon@... | 04/27/05
Can we mortals get access to the data  absamuels | 04/27/05
Be very afraid...  tburkeB34u@... | 04/28/05
My 2C  gomfp | 04/28/05
proper placement of blame  jasontheodd | 04/28/05
A Pack of Whiners!!  loneranger_z | 04/28/05
underestimating the damage it could do  jasontheodd | 04/28/05
MY OS!!  s_gamgee | 04/28/05
the cry of someone who didn't read the lisence agreement  jasontheodd | 04/28/05
You are utterly right  s_gamgee | 04/28/05
Firefox save us and create a OS  Zimar | 04/28/05
Linux and OS X  reo2@... | 04/28/05
Black box is ok if the user is the boss  VytautasB@... | 04/28/05
the problem is that the info exists in the firstplace  jasontheodd | 04/28/05
Black Box  bpines@... | 04/28/05
might I recomend......  jasontheodd | 04/28/05
Black plague  Freedomis#1 | 04/28/05
Black plague  Freedomis#1 | 04/28/05
Windows Black Box  wct2_668 | 04/28/05
Not a Problem  mikencove | 04/28/05
Black Box Opinion  lpe0@... | 04/28/05
Enough is enough  Joel@... | 04/28/05
Why didnt they just DO it  dzash2000 | 04/28/05
Black Box is invasion of privacy  OneManGang | 04/28/05
Microsoft Black Box???  Gearbanger | 04/28/05
Bad Idea!  mevande@... | 04/28/05
Enough Already  buddickerson | 04/28/05
Black Box  rrwilkin | 04/28/05
black box  saad_z | 04/28/05
Naming the Baby (continued)  s_gamgee | 04/28/05
There are no corporate spys..  s_gamgee | 04/28/05
Enough with the paranoia  johninc | 04/28/05
really???  jasontheodd | 04/28/05
paranoia  Network Support | 05/01/05
It's a matter of trust  rbittner | 04/28/05
They want what???  Little-bit | 04/28/05
Lack of Control Of source code  Edward@... | 04/28/05
WHAT do they say it's for?  rmjrenneboog@... | 04/28/05
Blackbox to windows  jackjay_z | 04/28/05
Added "black boxes"  escull@... | 04/28/05
Blackbox!?!? Over my dead body  Virupa | 04/28/05
And consumers could have a tough time knowing just what information they w  LaSenorita | 04/28/05
black box  avilla | 04/28/05
black box is already there  terrym0021 | 04/28/05
Had been thinking about Linux  justme46350 | 04/28/05
Black Box  remoran@... | 04/28/05
Black Box for Windows  ed_vocel@... | 04/28/05
Whose tool is it anyway ...  theocl | 04/28/05
I see the Goose Step is coming back in style...  msdead | 04/28/05
Boo Black Box  bhuson@... | 04/28/05
Ya right  AZson | 04/28/05
Big Brother and Bad Company  BlueKnight | 04/28/05
Suggestion to MS  Health_IT | 04/28/05
want no black box!!  wildroses67 | 04/28/05
I'd rather have crashes!  froboz | 04/28/05
MS Black BOX  marshad_786 | 04/28/05
poplularity has its drawbacks  bmathison | 04/28/05
WER  cyntek1@... | 04/28/05
MS Black Box add'n to Windows  geokoppmann323 | 04/28/05
Upgrade is not required  aa5hu | 04/28/05
It Depends on just what  grayfrier | 04/28/05
Linux Anyone?  wolfsouls | 04/28/05
Here's one  jasontheodd | 04/29/05
Black box OK if correctly implemented  Gezzer | 04/28/05
Black Box  holosd | 04/28/05
Black Box  golbrick7 | 04/28/05
"Get rid of Pervs and Hackers",,,  s_gamgee | 04/28/05
Oh Well!  DeTech | 04/29/05
Agree!  DeTech | 04/29/05
Right on the money  DeTech | 04/29/05
THE BLACK BOX  jerry.burns@... | 04/29/05
The idea of Black Box vs. freedom  Ceitic | 04/29/05
Another way to watch you  AdultMaturity | 04/29/05
Black Box  plkime | 04/29/05
Just another way in for a hacker  Doomer1 | 04/29/05
Big brother  alapy@... | 04/30/05
2 things come to mind  jlfoley | 04/30/05
Legal concerns.....  miku | 04/30/05
Goodby Microsoft!  comtech_z | 05/01/05
Kiss before goodbye?  wackley | 05/01/05
Osama will now know better to not use Longhorn...  m3bros | 05/01/05
Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows  carterml | 05/03/05
Another "Feature" to be turned off  noeman5 | 05/06/05
This "Black Box" is *No* "Flight Data Recorder" -- It's an Open Wiretap  wti | 05/09/05
ulfots  jjay911 | 05/16/05
I HAVE ONLY ONE WORD FOR MICROSLOP  pR0sp3ct | 06/06/05
Black Box  greywolf852 | 12/29/05
Who do you think you are kidding  kevsan | 12/29/05
and now the printer dot code + MSBox create...  fire1 | 12/29/05
Error Help  gordo79 | 12/29/05
Legalities  dmaster | 12/29/05
privacy? godless heathens  flowin | 01/03/06
floin, your an idiot.  markie53 | 04/11/08

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