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By Tom Espiner, ZDNet (UK)
Posted on ZDNet News: Dec 14, 2007 6:50:00 AM

Microsoft denied on Friday antitrust claims from Opera Software that the software giant is abusing its dominant market position to lock users into the Internet Explorer Web browser.

Opera, based in Norway, announced Thursday that it had filed an antitrust complaint with the European Commission, alleging that Microsoft is abusing its dominant position by bundling IE with the Windows operating system. Bundling IE with Windows means people have no choice in receiving it and only afterward have the option of deleting it or using an alternative product as the default browser, Opera said.

Opera also claimed that Microsoft is hindering interoperability by not following accepted open Web standards.

Microsoft struck back Friday, indicating that it would not willingly unbundle IE from Windows.

"We believe the inclusion of the (IE) browser into the operating system benefits consumers, and that consumers and PC manufacturers are already free to choose to use any browsers they wish," a Microsoft representative said. "Internet Explorer has been an integral part of the Windows operating system for over a decade and supports a wide range of Web standards."

The Microsoft representative added that "computer users have complete freedom of choice to use and set as default any browser they wish, including Opera, and PC manufacturers can also preinstall any browser as the default on any Windows machine they sell."

Opera filed the complaint against Microsoft this week, asserting that Microsoft has locked consumers into using IE, which has "only recently begun to offer some of the innovative features that other browsers have offered for years," such as tabbed browsing.

"We are filing this complaint on behalf of all consumers who are tired of having a monopolist make choices for them," said Jon von Tetzchner, chief executive officer of Opera. "In addition to promoting the free choice of individual consumers, we are a champion of open Web standards and cross-platform innovation."

Opera asked the European Commission to force Microsoft to unbundle IE from Windows and to carry alternative browsers preinstalled on the desktop. Opera also asked the EC to require Microsoft to follow "fundamental and open Web standards accepted by Web-authoring communities."

The browser company asserts that Microsoft's "unilateral control over standards in some markets has created a de facto standard that is more costly to support, harder to maintain, and technologically inferior and that can even expose users to security risks."

Tom Espiner of ZDNet UK reported from London.

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What is MS supposed to do, ship Windows with no browser at all? What about registration? What about MS updates? Is MS supposed to reconfigure their servers and installers to conform to whatever pro... (Read the rest)
Posted by: santuccie Posted on: 12/24/07 You are currently: Logged In | Log out
What a LIAR ! No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/14/07
Using force of govt for their own gain otaddy   | 12/14/07
Not just users, OEMs too. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/14/07
what are you babbling about? Linux Geek   | 12/14/07
Please shut up with your fake statements GuidingLight   | 12/14/07
Honestly, you have to feel sorry for him. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/14/07
LOL!!!!!!!!!! OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
He's stuck in a Windows World davidsarmstrong   | 12/17/07
I can always spot an MS Fan Boy davidsarmstrong   | 12/17/07
Your "babbling" is so silly No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/14/07
They choose the computer, not the OS magcomment   | 12/14/07
At least 50% of the 90% of Microsoft users Ole Man   | 12/16/07
And you learned that where? Let me guess... xuniL_z   | 12/17/07
Silly is as silly does (and says) Ole Man   | 12/17/07
Not lost on me Ole Man xuniL_z   | 12/18/07
Oh please.... OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
DUDE YOUR SO FUNNY rob_2402kw@...   | 12/17/07
Laff while you can! Ole Man   | 12/17/07
You miss the POINT Ole Man. xuniL_z   | 12/18/07
But where do these statistical numbers come from Boot_Agnostic   | 12/17/07
His Butt...that's where OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
Windows users attack, Linux Users write davidsarmstrong   | 12/17/07
No_Ax, until now I had you pegged as a seemingly level-headed... kingmph@...   | 12/17/07
Users don't care!!! MicroNix   | 12/16/07
AMEN - brother it's one of his typical responses. OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
One small problem with you argument davidsarmstrong   | 12/17/07
Where have you been ??? - you don't have OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
What a LIAR DemonX   | 12/14/07
Its called competition... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/14/07
it's called UNFAIR competition stevey_d   | 12/16/07
So... when you buy a GM car? nucrash   | 12/17/07
That's because you have choice davidsarmstrong   | 12/17/07
I know this. I went to the..... xuniL_z   | 12/17/07
Apple doesn't have monopoly davidsarmstrong   | 12/17/07
Windows does? I thought everyone was saying xuniL_z   | 12/18/07
Can you use something else - OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
But then what happens when the EU GuidingLight   | 12/14/07
That's why they are where they are! OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
What? ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/14/07
Why should anything be in the OS No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/14/07
Well... ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/14/07
Be reasonable wolf_z   | 12/15/07
What a lot of excuses ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/15/07
You've polled them? CobraA1   | 12/14/07
I have a poll for you osreinstall   | 12/16/07
Apparently you can't read. CobraA1   | 12/16/07
I can read. You just cannot accept the answer. osreinstall   | 12/16/07
You thought wrong. CobraA1   | 12/16/07
You can't even think. osreinstall   | 12/17/07
How does the user benefit when most time is spent fixing problems? CobraA1   | 12/17/07
User doesn't fix problems. Webmasters do. osreinstall   | 12/17/07
no, really? CobraA1   | 12/17/07
I am glad you agree. For a minute, I was wondering. osreinstall   | 12/17/07
Netscape died because of BroGnorik   | 12/17/07
BroGnorik, it was bad at one point. osreinstall   | 12/17/07
We agree on some points. CobraA1   | 12/17/07
Most folks do unless you are Vily. osreinstall   | 12/17/07
re: Most folks do unless you are Vily. CobraA1   | 12/18/07
Standards are nothing but voluntary. osreinstall   | 12/18/07
We're agreeing more now CobraA1   | 12/18/07
Yes we are. osreinstall   | 12/18/07
anyways CobraA1   | 12/18/07
Have a good one. osreinstall   | 12/18/07
I Don't want to do no stupid research zulubuck   | 12/17/07
DO YOU WANT TO THROW A CHAIR? HILARIOUS!!! NonZealot   | 12/14/07
I'm a user and I'm complaining davidsarmstrong   | 12/17/07
Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims Loverock Davidson   | 12/14/07
Served? ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/14/07
Since you don't understand slang Loverock Davidson   | 12/14/07
How sad, never mind... ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/14/07
Don't get mad at me Loverock Davidson   | 12/14/07
Newsflash! ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/14/07
Davidson davidsarmstrong   | 12/17/07
Funny how that law of physics xuniL_z   | 12/18/07
You don't have a choice, it always uses Internet Explorer... olePigeon   | 12/14/07
Dear Old Squab Confused by religion   | 12/14/07
Outlook Express... olePigeon   | 12/14/07
Nope. BroGnorik   | 12/17/07
Care to invalidate any other points I made... olePigeon   | 12/14/07
You DO have a choice Loverock Davidson   | 12/14/07
Totally right! NonZealot   | 12/14/07
MM? nucrash   | 12/17/07
You know, you're making a grave error... wolf_z   | 12/15/07
Don't use them...there's crap on TV...do you want OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
Yeah, tak it off the air Dumber_z   | 12/17/07
You don't have a choice, it always uses Internet Explorer??? rob_2402kw@...   | 12/17/07
Pure Bunk zulubuck   | 12/17/07
When you can't compete... itpro_z   | 12/14/07
Excellent post. Spot On !!! (nt) No_Ax_to_Grind   | 12/14/07
opera wants to compete fairly Linux Geek   | 12/14/07
Now you are making no sense. itpro_z   | 12/14/07
Rarely does... OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
Does it bother you... BFD   | 12/14/07
Your joking, right? CaryRW@...   | 12/17/07
You're completely missing the point... olePigeon   | 12/14/07
Outlook integrated? Confused by religion   | 12/14/07
Outlook Express, and I didn't say it was integrated... olePigeon   | 12/14/07
How are you being forced? itpro_z   | 12/14/07
Outlook Express, and Microsoft goes beyond bundling... olePigeon   | 12/14/07
I'm not so sure itpro_z   | 12/14/07
You CAN replace Explorer, if you want. wolf_z   | 12/15/07
Just don't use it. osreinstall   | 12/16/07
BINGO>... OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
There you go again with that lie zulubuck   | 12/17/07
Oh my, I agree with no_ax :-) magcomment   | 12/14/07
VERY WELL SAID and DEAD-ON OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
Wish the company would poll the users Boot_Agnostic   | 12/14/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims Chemicalzen   | 12/14/07
Now that worries me... ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/14/07
Why is it that whenever a post starts with "I am not a big fan of Microsoft nilotpal_c   | 12/15/07
Here is your OS supercharlie   | 12/14/07
Is bundeling a browser that bad? deramin@...   | 12/14/07
It's not the bundling that's the problem... olePigeon   | 12/14/07
You also forget that Micro$ux is a convicted monopolist NonZealot   | 12/14/07
"You're stuck with what they give you" itpro_z   | 12/14/07
Go in to control panel And I believe you can zulubuck   | 12/17/07
Heck, I think all the devices with a browser interface Boot_Agnostic   | 12/14/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims isdsgdasp   | 12/14/07
B$!! BroGnorik   | 12/17/07
Microsoft is bad for the free market imguest0@...   | 12/14/07
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims CobraA1   | 12/14/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims bkreps   | 12/15/07
Vista doesn't use IE for updates wolf_z   | 12/15/07
Then us another software. zulubuck   | 12/17/07
Bundling Is Only A Perception, Not A Reality lmenningen   | 12/15/07
bad analogy stevey_d   | 12/16/07
Think about it Windows Defender   | 12/15/07
Thinking about it... ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/15/07
I would work around it. osreinstall   | 12/16/07
My apologies... ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/16/07
Apoligy not accepted. osreinstall   | 12/16/07
And not to be outdone... ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/17/07
Good luck. osreinstall   | 12/17/07
And you.... xuniL_z   | 12/17/07
Jeeze xuniL_z osreinstall   | 12/17/07
And what pray tell... ego.sum.stig@...   | 12/17/07
If you must know xuniL_z   | 12/18/07
If you can get one of the OEMs to verify zulubuck   | 12/17/07
I see why they are sueing... OU812_BABY   | 12/17/07
Who are the LIARS? Microsoft. james.faction   | 12/17/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims rayearle   | 12/17/07
WRONG!! BroGnorik   | 12/17/07
Opera Doesn't Meet Standards msackett   | 12/17/07
RE: Microsoft strikes back at Opera antitrust claims blazeeagle@...   | 12/17/07
Opera need to get Real imb@...   | 12/18/07
For those posting their figures as facts but not links Boot_Agnostic   | 12/18/07
Go ride on somone elses coat tails. astefl@...   | 12/18/07
Throw this case out John Musbach   | 12/20/07
Ridiculous santuccie   | 12/24/07

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