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Posted on ZDNet News: Nov 8, 2004 12:00:00 PM

After stepping up its own patent push, Microsoft is now trying to get its hands on other companies' intellectual property.

Doing so will give the company more freedom to develop software in new areas and help the company as it seeks to indemnify its customers against any claims of patent infringement.

"If we are able to strike cross-licensing deals with the top 30 technology companies, that alone would provide us access to a vast majority of the patents in areas we care about," David Kaefer, Microsoft's director of intellectual property licensing, told CNET News.com.

Microsoft has roughly 100 licensing deals in the works, with about 15 to 20 being broad cross-licensing pacts with other large companies, Kaefer said, adding that it can take from one to two years to reach an accord.

"We're making good progress on some," Kaefer said. "Others are moving more slowly."

It has been 11 months since Microsoft said it would step up its intellectual property efforts. The company has two formal licensing programs--one for its FAT file format and the other for its ClearType font rendering technology--and it could add more soon.

The company has started to increase the number of sales coming in, but Kaefer said the amount of money Microsoft makes by licensing its patents and other intellectual property is still far less than the revenue from any of its traditional business units.

Because Microsoft paid out about $1.4 billion in the last fiscal year to license other companies' technology, turning a profit is not a realistic goal, he said. "However, there is an opportunity to narrow the gap."

Join the clubs
Microsoft also is rapidly trying to boost its presence among the elite in the patent filing world. The software giant, which holds less than 4,000 patents, plans to file 3,000 applications for patents this year alone.

As Microsoft tries to identify companies to talk with on technology swaps, it is trying to think broadly--even striking deals with perceived rivals, such as its agreement with PalmOne. "The thing about IP licensing is you can build alliances with companies people might otherwise see as strange bedfellows," Kaefer said.

In many cases, striking a deal is the easy part, but implementing the cooperative elements can be a challenge. One need only look at the slow pace of work with Sun Microsystems to see how challenging it can be to implement such accords.

Give and take
Microsoft also is finding things tricky as it tries to work with standards bodies and open-source communities, something that is clearly a delicate process. The recent challenges over patent issues related to the Sender ID antispam standard illustrate how conflicts can arise even when various parties have good intentions, Kaefer said.

One place the software titan is trying to avoid is the courtroom. Following the lead of its intellectual property lawyer, former IBM attorney Marshall Phelps, Microsoft is seeking to beef up its licensing without having to file a bunch of suits to do so. Kaefer noted that Phelps built IBM's intellectual property business without filing a single lawsuit (although he inherited one when he took the job).

That said, Microsoft is pursuing negotiations with companies it feels are using its intellectual property. "It's not possible for us to just look the other way," he said.

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TRANSLATION= TARGET is OPENSOURCE harmison   | 11/08/04
Are you just catching on? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Yes we know Jeff Spicoli   | 11/08/04
Isn't $1.4 billion a year enough? Anton Philidor   | 11/08/04
Of course, and the rest can simply be STOLEN! Jeff Spicoli   | 11/08/04
Please, stop crying, it'll be alright. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
You are correct, but... bugmenotznet   | 11/09/04
No lagniappes for Microsoft. Anton Philidor   | 11/08/04
How soon you forget Taz_z   | 11/08/04
Historically they have no cared that much about IP. B.O.F.H.   | 11/08/04
True, but they learned from the court actions. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Now if only they can figure out how to stop bleeding employees… B.O.F.H.   | 11/08/04
Bledding? More like a scratch no one cares about. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Message has been deleted. B.O.F.H.   | 11/08/04
As I said... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Speaking of bleeding, how is IBM doing?? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
According to the trade press and financials, quite weel IT_User   | 11/08/04
Are you serious dude? SantiagoCrespo   | 11/08/04
Google is just a large Linux cluster of PC's. B.O.F.H.   | 11/08/04
On second though, I do think they are learning,.. B.O.F.H.   | 11/08/04
Fat Rejected? alterego_z   | 11/08/04
Only part of it htotten   | 11/08/04
REAL Title: MS Threatens Open Source with Patent Litigation BanjoPaterson   | 11/08/04
Not to worry... Yen_z   | 11/08/04
So what? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
YES! Jeff Spicoli   | 11/08/04
Not a chance. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
More bad news. Yen_z   | 11/08/04
And that matters in what way? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
No_Ax, how about a link? IT_User   | 11/08/04
Better Go read up on Sun... Yen_z   | 11/08/04
Yes, it has gone both ways. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Microsoft--license to deal Loverock Davidson   | 11/08/04
Same Song and Dance htotten   | 11/08/04
I believe... rapson   | 11/08/04
You're right Loverock Davidson   | 11/08/04
Sorry rapson   | 11/08/04
Of course they are. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Sure are Loverock Davidson   | 11/08/04
Valuable IP... Cardinal_Bill   | 11/08/04
Microsoft avoids court cases Anton Philidor   | 11/08/04
MS patents/IP and open source... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
de facto standards Anton Philidor   | 11/08/04
Even more than that... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Anton, interesting no one has anything to say. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
I'll give it a try.. Patrick Jones   | 11/08/04
Not really... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Why buy? Patrick Jones   | 11/08/04
Because no one is going to do it for nothing. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
You may want to actually do a little more research. Patrick Jones   | 11/08/04
Sorry I don't see your point, quite embarrassing really Richard Flude   | 11/08/04
If anybody doesn't need support, it's No_Ax. Anton Philidor   | 11/08/04
Enough is enough Richard Flude   | 11/09/04
It kind of bothers me... Cardinal_Bill   | 11/08/04
There is something to be done about it... Anton Philidor   | 11/08/04
Could be... Patrick Jones   | 11/08/04
Nope, afraid not... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Show me your proof.. Patrick Jones   | 11/08/04
Here you go... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 11/08/04
Gee wrong again Richard Flude   | 11/08/04
Hmm. Once again you are wrong. Patrick Jones   | 11/08/04
I've said this same thing voska   | 11/08/04
why would ya bother to pay for .NET Monkey_MCSE   | 11/08/04
NoAx and Anton are so funny hipparchus2000   | 11/08/04
Windows Everywhere? George Mitchell   | 11/08/04
Microsoft's politesse Anton Philidor   | 11/08/04
Surely you and No-Ax can't be that dumb Richard Flude   | 11/09/04
Well, that is one way . . . James Dean_z   | 11/08/04
this is what has happened already hipparchus2000   | 11/08/04
This will be GOOD for free software! George Mitchell   | 11/08/04
Hello Jeff Spicoli   | 11/09/04
Yes Jeff Spicoli   | 11/09/04
He Jeff Spicoli   | 11/09/04

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