Yea, tell Google they there is no benifit to running Linux!!!
DonnieBoy | 04/04/05
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This independent study says what it says.
ShadeTree | 04/04/05
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For small installations, the study might be close to valid.
DonnieBoy | 04/04/05
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For all the search engine business owners
seosamh_z | 04/04/05
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No, not just search engines. Any webmail, travel, Amazon, Walmart, . . .
DonnieBoy | 04/04/05
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You're not making sense
seosamh_z | 04/05/05
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We will still need lots of small development shops.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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He is making sense
BlueScreen4u2c | 04/05/05
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I am sure that Redhat will give huge discounts to cluster users.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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Cluster Edition 2003
adsanders@... | 04/05/05
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2003..
nomorems | 04/05/05
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The problem with GMail
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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Internet privacy and The American Government
clockmendergb@... | 04/05/05
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They are pretty bad.
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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Waht ads?
Linux User 147560 | 04/05/05
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RE: They are pretty bad.
Linux User 147560 | 04/05/05
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Nothing is free not even freedom
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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RE: Nothing is free not even freedom
Linux User 147560 | 04/06/05
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I must be a luddite
osreinstall | 04/06/05
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RE: I must be a luddite
Linux User 147560 | 04/06/05
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They are filtered of course.
osreinstall | 04/06/05
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so what your saying is...
jdahs@... | 04/05/05
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Well, at least Microsoft can't do it. The kids at Google, maybe.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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Do you have any numbers...
ye | 04/04/05
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So, you don't know how to multiply? Or you deny that Google runs better
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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I see nothing...
ye | 04/05/05
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So are you denying that Google is more reliable and faster than
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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First of all ...
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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Man, try Gmail, it is so much better than Hotmail, and MS has had years.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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How about www.microsoft.com?
ye | 04/05/05
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Still does not compare to Google.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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Microsoft.com
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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That is the point, you can run great applications on Linux servers.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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Your conclusions are all wrong!
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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So are you denying all of Hotmail outages and security problems???
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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Try to pay attention this time.
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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Regardless . . .
Sheeva | 04/07/05
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you do realize
jdahs@... | 04/05/05
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More holes than you think
Mack DaNife | 04/05/05
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So isn't the fact that you are attacking me ...
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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Assuming it is independent
criderja | 04/05/05
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TCO is NOT a factor here
doh123 | 04/05/05
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They are talking TCO!
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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Running WinBlows with Linux firewalls
lengua99 | 04/10/05
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Your reliability may vary!
osreinstall | 04/04/05
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Yes, but did you read, MS will severly limit what you can do.
DonnieBoy | 04/04/05
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With that purchasing power I seriously doubt it.
osreinstall | 04/04/05
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Dell still pays over $50 for every copy.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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RE: Your reliability may vary!
Linux User 147560 | 04/05/05
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It will be pretty reliable. 1st release is always a bugger.
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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Microsoft not a serious contender
gitmo | 04/11/05
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Pure fabrication...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/04/05
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What, Google buys servers with Windows installed???
DonnieBoy | 04/04/05
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Get real
A.Sinic | 04/05/05
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Google is cool, they are not a parasite.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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GPL
Spoon Jabber | 04/05/05
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RE: Get real
richdave | 04/08/05
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Answer = $2,000,000
jjworleyeoe | 04/04/05
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That web edition you are talking about comes with lots of limitations
DonnieBoy | 04/04/05
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"Probably"?
ye | 04/05/05
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You would have to evaluate each circumstance.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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Something that you...
ye | 04/05/05
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Man, get rid of the religion.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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Not Quite True
adsanders@... | 04/05/05
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They obviously modify the kernel, but as far as I know it is Linux.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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I'm a bit confused . . .
Sheeva | 04/07/05
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Are you serious?
jrett | 04/05/05
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Ok, look at the search engine if you want.
DonnieBoy | 04/05/05
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OK, here is the uptime figures again...
dookie23_z | 04/05/05
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Google could not be what it is without Linux
john.gruber@... | 04/06/05
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Good points, not just an advantage for them, there'd be no Google without
DonnieBoy | 04/06/05
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Windows TCO and security on a par with ...
ShadeTree | 04/04/05
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Re: Windows TCO and security on a par with ...
none none | 04/04/05
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Major concession!
IT_User | 04/05/05
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More Crying
Mack DaNife | 04/05/05
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My responses are directly in proportion to ...
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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Well said!!
jrett | 04/05/05
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TCO was not mentioned
doh123 | 04/05/05
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Read the article!
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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you read the article
doh123 | 04/06/05
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Linux joint venture. Your help is needed.
Vily Clay | 04/04/05
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Yes, children play child's games.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/04/05
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No_Ax_to_Grind, is your REAL work hacking Windows? (NT)
Vily Clay | 04/04/05
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Does it mean Windows is ONLY for kids-gamers and Linux - for work? (NT)
Vily Clay | 04/04/05
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Re-write
Scrat | 04/05/05
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Translation:
Vily Clay | 04/05/05
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pot / kettle rendezvous again?
Scrat | 04/05/05
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Translation from MS English:
Vily Clay | 04/05/05
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Vily, Did the metal plate in your head rust thru?
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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osreinstall, not everybody has the same defect as you do. (NT)
Vily Clay | 04/05/05
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Just proves what I have been saying...
Mike Cox | 04/04/05
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9.5 Loved the Trump imatation
Squawkbox | 04/04/05
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8.5
Real World | 04/05/05
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Dual Booters
taliesinangelus | 04/05/05
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I don't think so ....
bjpartida | 04/05/05
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Still some Newbs
gagnon_pascal@... | 04/06/05
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Wait a darn minute here
Squawkbox | 04/04/05
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And 12% rate Linux as superior
Richard Flude | 04/04/05
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5 Apples + 3 Pears = 24 Peaches You must be using new math
osreinstall | 04/04/05
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Osreinstall ...You should check your math...
mdsmedia | 04/04/05
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Nothing wrong with the math
osreinstall | 04/04/05
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re the math
Llandros Loressin | 04/05/05
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er Llandros ....
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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er hipparchus2000
mdsmedia | 04/05/05
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in part my bad, in part, I'm right
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Lets do the math again
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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Should have stopped here
Richard Flude | 04/05/05
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Don't you like fun with statistics?
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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re Lets do the math again
Llandros Loressin | 04/06/05
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It is obvious you do not like puzzles
osreinstall | 04/06/05
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re osreinstall's responce
Llandros Loressin | 04/07/05
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Sometimes 50/50 is all you got to go by
osreinstall | 04/07/05
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In addition to 50/50
osreinstall | 04/07/05
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re ...
Llandros Loressin | 04/08/05
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Not everyone likes linux
osreinstall | 04/08/05
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re above
Llandros Loressin | 04/12/05
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Whatever
osreinstall | 04/12/05
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re whatever
Llandros Loressin | 04/13/05
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No method is perfect
osreinstall | 04/13/05
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re no method is perfect
Llandros Loressin | 04/13/05
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re ps
Llandros Loressin | 04/13/05
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It has been debated
osreinstall | 04/13/05
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Linux is NOT a ZERO-PRICE option ...
mwagner@... | 04/05/05
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Agreed, almost
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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True enough ...
mwagner@... | 04/05/05
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No enterprise is going to download linux ... er how about google, amazon
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Yes, they are ...
mwagner@... | 04/05/05
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Most likely?
Richard Flude | 04/05/05
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Finally, someone with real experience
adsanders@... | 04/05/05
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interesting point re audit
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Carefull stating things that can be instantly disproved
Richard Flude | 04/05/05
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One reason not to give too much credit to these readers
mggordon | 06/21/05
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Hows your maths???
GetReal-mac.com | 04/05/05
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ummm...how's yours?
mdsmedia | 04/05/05
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yes in truth the figures tell you just about nothing
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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The standard of Math in the forums is pretty poor
Richard Flude | 04/05/05
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Don't worry fanatics are terrible at statistic math!
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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For your edification
rpmyers1 | 04/04/05
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For your redification
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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Her
rpmyers1 | 04/05/05
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Linux stole it
SC-man | 04/05/05
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Well if SCO does not win it's claim(s) then I will have
Laff | 04/05/05
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that's eight lines more than SCO have shown in court
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Hah! I needed some good cheer!
mggordon | 06/21/05
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MCSEs Exposed
matrixdomain | 04/04/05
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Cute Rant
osreinstall | 04/04/05
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The rant actually back up the articles comments
voska | 04/05/05
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MCSE
Real World | 04/05/05
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Just getting a little weary of the superior attitude
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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So are
Linux User 147560 | 04/05/05
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Linux dudes started it
osreinstall | 04/05/05
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Then there's those of us...
Real World | 04/06/05
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I have read your previous posts
osreinstall | 04/06/05
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RE
Real World | 04/07/05
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Tell me ab out how...
toadlife | 04/04/05
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Yea
IT Scion | 04/05/05
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Mad Penguin is about right....
Scrat | 04/05/05
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Your listening to hype too much
IAHawkeye | 04/05/05
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The same can be said about Linux
balsover | 04/05/05
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RHCE
SC-man | 04/05/05
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MCSE's are different now
toadlife | 04/05/05
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student here
Fleeb | 04/05/05
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Sigh
PMC-CON | 04/05/05
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Impressive
rapson | 04/05/05
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From what I noticed
voska | 04/05/05
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I won't disagree...
rapson | 04/05/05
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He probably worked with a paper MCSE
voska | 04/05/05
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Late 90's MSCE's were worthless
toadlife | 04/05/05
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Thanks for the info
rapson | 04/06/05
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Of course...
Omch'Ar | 04/05/05
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If the survey is accurate
richdave | 04/04/05
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I actually agree with you ion that
toadlife | 04/04/05
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Another jewel of information for you, no religion added.
DonnieBoy | 04/04/05
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Nice post. (NT)
NonZealot | 04/05/05
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Here are results of real survey.
FirstNLastN | 04/04/05
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we competition for microsoft so they could put more effect into windows..
M_c | 04/04/05
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What Foolishness...
realitycheck101 | 04/04/05
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When I am King.....
JoeMama_z | 04/04/05
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I need...
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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Most US businesses have tried Linux ... hilarious
michael-t | 04/05/05
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re-re-re-patching
PA-ITGuy | 04/05/05
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hehehe
IT Scion | 04/05/05
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FYI: The fact of the matter is that
michael-t | 04/05/05
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Keep reading.
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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What do you think Anton?
michael-t | 04/05/05
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My point here.
Anton Philidor | 04/06/05
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Most large corporations probably have!
mwagner@... | 04/05/05
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And how does this
michael-t | 04/05/05
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That's sweet and profound ...
michael-t | 04/05/05
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"independent study" + Yankee Group = definition of oxymoron.
Judas I. | 04/05/05
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you read it wrong (just like they wanted you to)
doh123 | 04/05/05
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And if
michael-t | 04/06/05
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Well if the story is true it still seems that Linux has the edge.
Laff | 04/05/05
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Linux is far from having an edge!
ShadeTree | 04/05/05
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Look Shade this is no threat to MS as a whole. MS
Laff | 04/05/05
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Re: Speed
Scrat | 04/05/05
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MS threat
IT Scion | 04/05/05
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Threat to Microsoft
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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I don't know about that
voska | 04/05/05
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Wishing doesn't make it so.
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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You're kidding, right?
IT_User | 04/05/05
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its NOT TCO
doh123 | 04/05/05
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Reduce Linux costs with mainframes
pmilano | 04/05/05
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What really surpirsed me...
IT Scion | 04/05/05
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Confusing
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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Sry Antonq
IT Scion | 04/05/05
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All *nix products are the same ...
mwagner@... | 04/05/05
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some mistakes.
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Sun has bigger problems than the Microsoft deal.
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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I haven't found Sun Hardware that expensive
voska | 04/05/05
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Okay.
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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I agree 100%
voska | 04/05/05
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Meeting customer demand??
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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linux replacing unix
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Okay.
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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I agree
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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What is your differentiator?
IT_User | 04/05/05
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Cheap software replacing Unix
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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Not so surprising, really ...
mwagner@... | 04/05/05
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Internet aware?
Scrat | 04/05/05
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The importance of tools.
Anton Philidor | 04/05/05
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tools.. i disagree
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Re: So are you denying that Google is more reliable and faster than
ye | 04/05/05
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MAINTENANCE cost, not cost of OWNERSHIP
itinko | 04/05/05
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hey, stop expecting people to actually comprehend what they read
doh123 | 04/05/05
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Well SURPRISE, SURPRISE!
mwagner@... | 04/05/05
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The DiDiot...
jmervyn | 04/05/05
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Stop The Zealoutism
Philip Stears | 04/05/05
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The word you're looking for is "zealotry"
tic swayback | 04/05/05
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Hehe
Philip Stears | 04/05/05
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Right on the mark!
George Mitchell | 04/05/05
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Yes, for small one-off systems, Linux has no advantage.
DonnieBoy | 04/06/05
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Well I really like Linux
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Check out Shuttle.com
NonZealot | 04/05/05
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I have one in work
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Dselect?
Scrat | 04/05/05
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hmm looks pretty similar to dselect to me
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Enough informatiion missing to fure fights forever (NT)
Update victim | 04/05/05
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That "fure" is supposed to be "fuel", Sorry (NT)
Update victim | 04/05/05
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Why do you think...
Omch'Ar | 04/05/05
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Sea Change
Chad_z | 04/05/05
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OK, here is the uptime figures...
dookie23_z | 04/05/05
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Well, that pretty much says it all, doesn't it?
MTMacPhee | 04/08/05
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Yankee Group perports to be unbiased but may only be a front for Microsoft
nfcl | 04/05/05
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well i can think off one
toxicfreak | 04/07/05
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Amazing
George Jay | 04/08/05
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The journalism is faulty
Debunker | 04/05/05
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No studies are real
FilledOut | 04/05/05
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This one sure fired up the Linux zealots huh?
golowenow | 04/05/05
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maybe you're right
hipparchus2000 | 04/05/05
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Same old Microsoft ruse.
systemcleaner | 04/06/05
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All I know is....
Randyz@... | 04/06/05
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Erm...
zkiwi | 04/06/05
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Our business is not proving out software
Baer | 04/06/05
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Windows VS Linux Server
oisleach@... | 04/07/05
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You are confused
wresnick | 04/07/05
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Subjectivity, not objectivity
wresnick | 04/07/05
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big vs small, old vs new; and the ad factor
dkloke@... | 04/08/05
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Is it really a VALID question?
Vassa | 04/08/05
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Behind the Firewall Costs
compass53@... | 04/08/05
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track costs to the penny???
david_douglass@... | 04/08/05
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Obviously they've never submitted a project budget
ljhiker | 04/08/05
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Linux: HA!
jkratzer3 | 04/08/05
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Linux is better for SAP
erickj | 04/08/05
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microsoft changing the rules
alan.m@... | 04/08/05
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Survey: Microsoft vs Linux
radar_z | 04/10/05
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One leg in linux and another in Windows
sragavan | 04/10/05
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