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Winter of 09/10 by: toybox1 - 09/18/09
I am curious to see just how some will respond to the current economical climate when people that are already going hungry try to keep the thermostat set at an affordable temperature setting (45degree... (Read the rest)
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Protection from Competition  johnnylumber | 02/13/09
Protection ?  pizzaman7 | 02/17/09
That's not ture  Crash2100 | 02/18/09
Green energy is a lie  rparker009 | 02/19/09
I think you have this mixed up  Crash2100 | 02/19/09
What oil does for me right now  hiraghm@... | 02/23/09
How stupid are you?  Crash2100 | 02/27/09
Those "Oil Reserves" are not "reserves"  hiraghm@... | 02/23/09
RE: Will cheap oil affect green innovation?  JO_ACT | 02/13/09
RE: Will cheap oil affect green innovation?  Tropel | 02/18/09
Gawd, I hope so.  hiraghm@... | 02/23/09
Closetman listen up.  wallis2004 | 07/07/09
If green is so valuable, why does it need a rigged market?  FinanceBuzz | 02/25/09
Because the petroleum market IS rigged  Dr_Zinj | 03/10/09
If green is so valuable, why does it need a rigged market?  FinanceBuzz | 02/25/09
Warming is real, oil greed is destructive  wallis2004 | 07/07/09
Say "No" to government meddling  ilnaras | 02/26/09
No meddling in Wall Street got us where?  wallis2004 | 07/07/09
Green innovation doesn't take anything away  Crash2100 | 02/27/09
RE: Will cheap oil affect green innovation?  atari8bit@... | 02/28/09
RE: Will cheap oil affect green innovation?  tgabe | 03/05/09
RE: Will cheap oil affect green innovation?  al881 | 03/09/09
RE: Will cheap oil affect green innovation?  ezrabm@... | 03/10/09
The trouble with Green  jscott418 | 03/12/09
You got it !  wallis2004 | 07/07/09
Innovation drives change...  toybox1 | 03/21/09
Make cheap Oil help Green Energy is the path  wallis2004 | 07/07/09
speed is what speed delivers...  toybox1 | 07/17/09
RE: Will cheap oil affect green innovation?  muellerl20 | 08/03/09
RE: Will cheap oil affect green innovation?  lokidoki | 08/31/09
Winter of 09/10 by: toybox1 - 09/18/09  toybox1 | 09/16/09

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Will cheap oil affect green innovation?

At a Churchill Club event in Santa Clara, Calif., Bill Joy, co-founder of Sun Microsystems and partner at Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, calls on the government to require using alternative fuels to protect biofuel innovators from the cyclical nature of the oil market and to make it easier to invest in wind, solar, and geothermal energy.

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>> So the question is about the low price of oil. How does that impact the prospect for cleaner technology really going forward? Yeah, I mean, not only is, is oil cheap, but coal is also cheap, right? So we have to make a societal decision at some level whether we're going to protect the innovators somewhat from the cyclic nature of the, if the oil price keeps going up and crashing, it tends to be kind of a random walk. I mean, we saw a pretty steep decline here in the last year. It's, it can wipe out a whole generation of startups trying to, to bring us renewable fuels. So the government can help some by creating like a, a, a standard for a certain percentage of our fuel to come from renewable energy, and that will benefit us in the long run, but that would help us to get the innovation through the cyclical nature of, of the commodities, but in order to clean things up, we're going to need to clean up the grid of coal, and we're going to need to clean out the fuels to be built based roughly on biomass, right? So we can clean the grid of coal with things like solar, wind, modify with better batteries, and probably some geothermal because that's, if we can engineer the geothermal so we can make geothermal resources using advanced drilling technology, then we can, then we have a thousand year supply of energy under the United States and potentially available to us. So there's lots of opportunity here. The question is how do we protect the innovation to some extent through down the learning curve past the cost of oil and past the cost of coal. The German, Germany's helped a lot by and the people who have feeding tariffs by, you know, paying higher prices to put solar and wind installations. And so they lead in the, the world and the installation of those things, and they're helping to drive down the technology curve much as the State of California was doing here with some of their solar programs. Given the budget situation in California, it's hard to imagine that California will continue to be the leader in those kind of programs so I didn't know if, that probably takes, probably hurts the Valley. It probably hurts our future, but, you know, the deficit being what it is, but we have to deal with coal, and we have to deal with, we have to close the loops on those, and those technologies - wind, solar, with batteries, geothermal, and fuels from celluastic phonetic, advanced fuels from celluastic biomass, probably fuels that are better than ethanol, ones that are blendable directly into diesel and gasoline - if we can find pathways to make those fuels from bio, bio, you know, non-food biomass inexpensively, then, then we have a chance. Now, if you go and look at, you know, like the, we do a free energy calculation. I want to go from this molecule to that molecule, you can tell that the embodied energy is such that, you know, it's possible there's a pathway that's, that's very inexpensive. We just don't have the chemistry to do that. We have to find that chemistry, and, it, it may not exist, but it's at least, it, it potentially exists, and that's the kind of thing that we would hope the entrepreneurs would be looking for.

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